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Celebration 2017 Speculation — Page 26

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In case anyone missed it…

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Panel | Star Wars Celebration Orlando 2017 video… (forward to 10mins 20secs in for the start)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh4X4N-8fEM

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I don’t think we’ll hear anything about the OOT at Celebration. We can only hope that they will release it this year low key

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JawsTDS said:

Instead of learning about Rogue One, we get to watch Warwick Davis fuel his ego. Shame, but I suppose that’s a perk of actually going there.

XD

Was that it, I thought I just missed the Rogue One segment

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Is the Rogue One panel available online?

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nickyd47 said:

I don’t think we’ll hear anything about the OOT at Celebration. We can only hope that they will release it this year low key

I don’t think we’ll hear anything either. And I don’t think we have a hope that they will release it, not this year, not 2020, not ever 😦 Thousands of fans going batshit mental over the 40th anniversary of a movie no-one is allowed to see anymore is kinda sickening. Lucasfilm denegrates its own legacy every year this drags on, while all and sundry kiss the ass of the stubborn old bastard who keeps a tight grip on the franchise even after selling it off for billion$.

Here’s Tom with the weather… 😉

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This convention should’ve been named “The Dave Filoni Likes To Talk” Celebration …

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RooBee said:

This convention should’ve been named “The Dave Filoni Likes To Talk” Celebration …

I hate that hat so much. Wish someone would knock it off his head and light it on fire.

Do you think that they only invited Lucas as a courtesy and didn’t think he would come? Then he did and turned the 40th panel into a PT mess?

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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lovelikewinter said:

RooBee said:

This convention should’ve been named “The Dave Filoni Likes To Talk” Celebration …

I hate that hat so much. Wish someone would knock it off his head and light it on fire.

Impossible. The man and hat are one now.

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Is there something I missed about Dave Filoni? I don’t understand the hate.

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TK-949 said:

Is there something I missed about Dave Filoni? I don’t understand the hate.

The hate is for his hat, not he himself.

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Darth Cracker said:

nickyd47 said:

I don’t think we’ll hear anything about the OOT at Celebration. We can only hope that they will release it this year low key

I don’t think we’ll hear anything either. And I don’t think we have a hope that they will release it, not this year, not 2020, not ever 😦 Thousands of fans going batshit mental over the 40th anniversary of a movie no-one is allowed to see anymore is kinda sickening. Lucasfilm denegrates its own legacy every year this drags on, while all and sundry kiss the ass of the stubborn old bastard who keeps a tight grip on the franchise even after selling it off for billion$.

Here’s Tom with the weather… 😉

Well I don’t know if I’m completely giving up hope that it will ever be released, not even after George dies, but I will say that part of me does wonder if they realize that most of the people who actually care about this now are old-timers who don’t make up their core fan base anymore, therefore not making it worth it in their eyes. A ton of the fans now grew up with the SEs and the prequels, and even some of those who didn’t are George loyalists who stood by his vision all the way through. (Just look at TFN for plenty of examples.) So basically, you have these basic audiences, ranked from largest to smallest in size:

  • The mass public who isn’t even aware of the differences and doesn’t care.
  • The diehard Star Wars fanatics who will buy anything and eat it up blindly.
  • The young teens and twenty-somethings who cut their teeth on the SEs/prequels and if anything prefer that era.
  • The original trilogy purists who are still holding out for the OUT.

The last group is the oldest, the smallest, and is considerably worn down by now, as this thread and whole site shows. Many have completely given up hope for a release and turned to the Despecialized/35mm projects. Many others just don’t care much about Star Wars at all anymore, either because they were turned off by the SEs and prequels or because they simply grew out of it. And many more have just resigned themselves to the SEs.

Except for those who stopped being fans at all, most all of these have bought the official Blu-rays regardless. Hell that’s supposed to be a prerequisite for downloading this site’s projects. So it’s not like they’re losing a lot of money here. They’re much more concerned with the future and expanding their fan base, rather than appealing to the niche part of it that is slowly dying out (metaphorically and sadly even literally in some cases), and will only continue to with time.

So while I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they did release the OUT eventually, probably once they’ve gotten back all the rights and therefore can squeeze as much money as they can out of it, I also would not be surprised if:

A. It doesn’t come until after George croaks, or 2020 at the earliest.
B. It is treated as a nostalgic afterthought “bonus” like the GOUT was, hopefully just with more care, and is not extensively marketed.

I would like to be wrong, but at this point I doubt it. I was sure this would be it, this is the absolutely perfect time after all. 20 years without the SE, now 20 years with it… It would have been “like poetry.” Oh well.

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^The problem with this is that there is a not insignificant number of casual fans who are aware of the changes, whether or not they really care all that much about them (though I’d say a fair amount of them don’t like them).

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I’m really not sure just how significant that number is. Even if it is fairly sizable, I’m sure it’s still a minority, and it still doesn’t stop most of them from actually buying and watching the movies. If they’re truly casual fans it’s highly unlikely they’re even aware there are alternatives on this site.

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Gary Fisher is there! Someone on reddit saw him and he pooped in the convention hall. Gary is leading the protest about the lack of a proper OOT release.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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Density said:

I’m really not sure just how significant that number is. Even if it is fairly sizable, I’m sure it’s still a minority, and it still doesn’t stop most of them from actually buying and watching the movies. If they’re truly casual fans it’s highly unlikely they’re even aware there are alternatives on this site.

Well I suppose when you consider how incredibly massive the number of Star Wars fans there are they might be a minority, but yeah I’d say it’s still fairly sizable. Sure I doubt most are unaware of the alternatives and have no problem sucking up the SEs (though Harmy’s work has gained some decent notoriety through the web), but I’m sure a great many would be willing to fork over cash if the original versions were presented.

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lovelikewinter said:

Gary Fisher is there! Someone on reddit saw him and he pooped in the convention hall. Gary is leading the protest about the lack of a proper OOT release.

Sorry what is this about?

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The Rogue One panel started VERY late, they were having technical difficulties. Ended up having to rush through the presentation and skipped a lot.

They probably don’t want a lot of what they showed getting out. They had a blooper reel filled with terrifying Tarkin glitches.

But most of the presentation was all of the same stuff they’ve talked about already.

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DominicCobb said:
Well I suppose when you consider how incredibly massive the number of Star Wars fans there are they might be a minority, but yeah I’d say it’s still fairly sizable. Sure I doubt most are unaware of the alternatives and have no problem sucking up the SEs (though Harmy’s work has gained some decent notoriety through the web), but I’m sure a great many would be willing to fork over cash if the original versions were presented.

Oh I’m sure plenty of people would buy it. They would turn a profit. But when compared to all the other things they could focus on instead? It’s chump change. So they have to weigh the value of that change against:

  • Pissing on George while he’s still alive, which I didn’t think was a problem but apparently might be after all now that they seem to have kissed and made up
  • Not maximizing the profits from it due to the extra money they could make if they waited until they are the sole owners and distributors of all but ANH
  • Distracting resources and marketing attention from their own new films

So if I had to predict? It will either come out around 2020 as a tie-in to the newly completed sequel trilogy, likely again treated as bonus material, or it won’t come out until George is pushing daisies.

Whatever the case, it’s pretty clear now that it’s not coming this year.

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I honestly don’t think George’s beating heart has jack shit to do with any of it, I doubt anyone cares about “not releasing the originals out of respect to him” and the idea some have floated that it might have been in the deal he signed with Disney is simply ludicrous.

Ultimately, I think the real enemy here is simply just apathy and indifference on the part of whoever makes the distribution decisions (which might overlap with the rights issues).

One thing that’s interesting is there’s no way these new filmmakers haven’t brought the OOT up (I know Rian Johnson is on record for criticizing the SEs). I wonder if they know the lowdown and if they’re privy to versions we aren’t.

Damn, shoulda asked Rian about that when I met him…