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Petition to give Warbler his Sigh Back

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Yeah, it bugs me sometimes, but for the most part it’s pretty harmless. More importantly, not having it hurts him much more than having it matters to me. So I say Warbler should be allowed to use it once again, with or without context as he chooses.

Provided he doesn’t go overboard, of course.

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[REMOVED BY JAY!!!]

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I’m inclined to support this now that I’m living without it, but I get the feeling as soon as he started doing I’d regret saying I wanted it back.

You can officially put me on the fence.

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Possessed said:

You can officially put me on the fence.

A foot on each side? Standing directly on it? Sitting on it, and if so which side are your feet dangling?"

The Person in Question

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No fence sitting allowed.

I don’t think I am ready to sign this petition, but I guess I don’t quite know why it is such a hard thing for Warb to deal with not sighing.

But on the other hand, it’s pretty rude to ask someone to not be themselves… And if that is how it makes Warb feel, then I am sorry.

But I really hope he can find ways to just step away from the site for a spell instead of embarking on more carpet-sighing.

Consider that a reluctant signature.

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A foot on each side.

It’s extremely uncomfortable.

I’m going to tentatively say I’m not signing it. If being told you can’t sigh with no context or explanation feels like you’re being told you can’t be yourself, then like dahmage says you need to step away. I agree with a lot of what he said, interesting that we came down on opposite sides of…

The fence.

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I do not know what to think about this or what to say.

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I think that asking for context is a reasonable request, but the crap Warbler has gotten over such a harmless thing has been a big reason why I’ve been irritable lately. He’s a good guy and I don’t like to see him getting mocked for such a minor thing. Sure, run off the jerks for their awful behavior, but the way I’ve seen Warbler be alienated have been truly concerning to me. I was recently called uppity for my attitude, but I really don’t like the persistent and repeated mockery of decent guys.

I approve of this thread because I feel it does show a greater respect for a guy who just wants to be himself, even if it’s a little different from you.

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I support it.

Didn’t see why he was told not to in the first place, really. Wasn’t hurting anyone.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I hardly ever know how to take it, or what he’s getting at with it. I guess I could just ignore it. But then I’d also be ignoring Warb, which I don’t want.
I vote no *sigh* without also saying what the bother is. And I don’t know why that’s such a mean thing to request.
Then, on second thought, I don’t know if I could care any less either way.

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ray_afraid said:

Then, on second thought, I don’t know if I could care any less either way.

Generally how I feel, but not always…sometimes I don’t care at all, sometimes it annoys me. But I know that it deeply wounds Warb that he can’t do it anymore. I think it makes no sense that he would feel that way, but it doesn’t change the fact that he does feel that way. And I’d rather be annoyed once in a while than to have him be hurt all the time, whether it makes sense to me or not.

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Warbler said:

I do not know what to think about this or what to say.

You don’t need to say anything. The sentiment is genuine, however.

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TV’s Frink said:

ray_afraid said:

Then, on second thought, I don’t know if I could care any less either way.

Generally how I feel, but not always…sometimes I don’t care at all, sometimes it annoys me. But I know that it deeply wounds Warb that he can’t do it anymore. I think it makes no sense that he would feel that way, but it doesn’t change the fact that he does feel that way. And I’d rather be annoyed once in a while than to have him be hurt all the time, whether it makes sense to me or not.

Right Said, Fred. I mean Frink.

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This is my personal take / opinion on it - and I am not speaking as a mod, nor for other mods…
 

I like and appreciate Warbler’s opinion on matters - occasionally they can be somewhat different and alternative to the main, and I enjoy that. As I’ve told Warbler in PMs previously, his posts often make for interesting reading.

In the past when Warbler sighs in a sigh-only post… we then wait… and someone meanwhile misinterprets him… or guesses incorrectly at what he’s sighing at… and a few people become uppity and a have a pop… and an argument kicks off… and his original message (or point) is not talked about - or is often just forgotten… Well, how about trying to address that - in a bid to make things a little better - or clearer, to carry on the flow of the conversation?

So, as a mod, I said to him to keep the trademark sigh (it is part of his character on here) - yet also asked he puts his reason/opinion/context etc in his sigh post too.

 

(With mod’s hat back on) This is just a small part of recent efforts to ask / remind posters to be civil to each other, and treat each with a bit more respect also to try and improve the flow and quality of the conversations.

The hahahaha type-only posts to fellow members have been asked to stop too for this reason.

Also, members rightfully do PM the mods and asking us why is poster ‘x’ allowed to say this when poster ‘y’ and myself are not? ‘You had a go at me about this and haven’t had a go at them?’ etc. Well, the mods have to be, and want to be, and aim to be, equal and fair to all members - so we don’t treat you guys any differently or give you preferential treatment - not that we would anyway 😉
 

I think (and hope) we are past this occasionally bumpy transitional phase of recent changes - and that the site is better in general for it - let’s not take a backwards step, even one as relatively small and inconsequential a one as this.

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

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… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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darth_ender said:

but the crap Warbler has gotten over such a harmless thing…

If you or anyone else would like to point out where Warbler has received ‘the crap Warbler has gotten’ over this I’ll have a look at it (I haven’t seen it).

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Let the man Sigh. It always seems pretty obvious what he means by it anyway, like Rocket understands Groot.

OT-DAWT-COM nieghbour and sometime poster (Remember, Tuesday is Soylent Green day!)

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oojason said:

I think (and hope) we are past this occasionally bumpy transitional phase of recent changes - and that the site is better in general for it

I agree. Mostly. 😉

let’s not take a backwards step, even one as relatively small and inconsequential a one as this.

I wouldn’t consider this a backwards step, but that’s just my opinion. Some others seem to feel otherwise, which maybe means it would actually be a backwards step.

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It’s not a backwards step. If anything I think if people are getting uppity indirectly as a result of it, then maybe such people need to not be as uppity. That doesn’t mean Warbler ought police himself for something as inconsequential as a *sigh* because other people can’t help themselves in generally getting bent out of shape.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Maybe keep the sigh out of political debates? Would that be a comromise that everyone can live with?

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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Frank your Majesty said:

Maybe keep the sigh out of political debates? Would that be a comromise that everyone can live with?

I will never ever comromise on this issue.

But only because I don’t know what it means.