Video Games - a general discussion thread — Page 364

ray_afraid said:

Care to elaborate? Her voice puts me to sleep. She speaks so slowly and the vocal delivery is so flat. Her dialog is stiff.
In Skyward Sword she was so full of life and character. Sad to see that kind of characterization go this time around.
But, it’s a small gripe and hardly a knock against BOTW. I’m truly loving this game.

chyron8472 said:

SPOILERS in Expanded view

Where would I even start? For one thing, you might as well accuse Twilight Princess’ Zelda of being stiff. And are you even watching the Captured Memories? She is a princess, and she is trying to honor her station by doing what is expected of her, but she also has a curiosity about the world around her to the chagrin of her father because he thinks it distracts her from unlocking her power. Speaking of which, she is tasked with tapping into the power of the Triforce of Wisdom within her, but she has no idea how to do that. She prays to the goddess(es?) at the Springs but it doesn’t help, and in the end it is in defense of her most trusted friend against the Guardians that her powers awaken, though it’s too little too late.

In Skyward Sword she was so full of life and character.

Umm, she has no spoken dialogue in Skyward Sword. I wouldn’t call her feisty just because she can stand up for Link against Groose, and she doesn’t really interact with Link that much after she falls from Skyloft at the beginning. She does have quite a lot of dialogue at the end, but most of it is expository, laying out what Impa’s plan was for her in aiding to seal Demise.

Also, SS Zelda is directly following the instruction of Impa and the Sheikah Clan. BOTW Zelda is figuring this out entirely on her own with little to no outside help. And if some of BOTW Zelda’s dialogue is stilted in the memories, it’s because she’s a young princess trying to honor her station. SS Zelda is not even a princess; she’s the daughter of the Academy headmaster. She is not held to the same societal standard as BOTW Zelda is. In the present, BOTW Zelda is a disembodied being of energy, weary from a constant struggle against Ganon, so she’s not going to sound perky.

I feel like you’re comparing your unreachable expectation of BOTW Zelda with your nostalgia for SS Zelda. And it is because of people who have opinions like yours that I think it would be a horrible mistake for Nintendo to ever give spoken dialogue to Link, since he could never ever live up to the expectation.

My wife actually says that BOTW Zelda is one of her least favorite iterations of the Zelda character, but she says so because she feels BOTW Zelda is too emotionally fragile; whereas, for example, Twilight Princess’ Zelda shows more emotional strength.

However, that’s not a problem with bad writing or acting; that’s just a personality preference.

Yeah, the story is good (and yeah, I can follow along while I play. I’m not an idiot. Thanks. Jerk.), but I just find her portrayal lacking. It’s not a story or writing problem at all.
Also, you seem to be off base from my original complaint.
And you should maybe consider spoiler warnings.

Okay, I spoiler tagged it. Sorry about that.

You did, however, ask me to elaborate. While I do think present-day Zelda has a bit slow, weary, ethereal sounding voice, I’m saying there’s an obvious reason for it. To each their own opinion, sure, but I feel you’re being too harsh on the character by saying her dialogue is the one glaringly annoying flaw especially in comparison to Skyward Sword. I’m saying there are reasons why she sounds the way she does; and given that I didn’t know if you meant Zelda from the memories or Zelda from “The blood moon rises again…” I felt obligated to defend both.

chyron8472 said:

I feel you’re being too harsh on the character by saying her dialogue is the one glaringly annoying flaw

I didn’t say that at all. I just said that I don’t like her portrayal, particularly her voice.
My feelings on this seem to be a bigger issue to you than to they are to me.
shrug

I had my three tiers of ZELDA games all made up, but then realized that a couple of my opinions probably aren’t popular and I don’t got the energy to defend em right now.
In other words:
[operator dead. post abandoned.]

^ That’s very cool, Possessed!
On a Zelda related note, I recently said that the music in BOTW is good, but it’s not one of my favorite Zelda soundtracks. This has changed. It’s not the best one, but it’s certainly among them! The music in Rito Village… Perfection! And all the little themes throughout are so great and memorable.
The music is handled in a new way for the series, not just in style and instrumentation, but also the way the music is implemented. The little bits of melody that play while you’re exploring are great. I love the way musical callbacks are intertwined with new melodies.

ray_afraid said:

The little bits of melody that play while you’re exploring are great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H95BFbr-IY

‘Nintendo Classic Mini: SNES review – fun-sized reboot of greatest ever console’…

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/28/nintendo-classic-mini-snes-review-fun-sized-reboot-of-greatest-ever-console-mario-yoshi-zelda

I hope they produce a fair few more units than is already out there - the scalpers seem to have managed to get their hands on a lot of these.

21 games does seem a little on the lean side - though I suppose the trade-off is keeping the price low/competitive with likely having to pay for licencing/royalties for each game etc

It does look a lot of fun 😃

RayRogers said:

ChainsawAsh said:

RayRogers said:

Recommended Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings games for PS2, GameCube, GBA, DS, PC? The LEGO ones are obvious for both. Battle for Middle Earth duology is also obvious for the latter. Already have quite a lot and know about “Paradise” site.

Harry Potter literally didn’t exist for me when I was 10 in 1989.

I’m confused - were these games recommended to you? Are you asking if we would recommend them? Are you recommending them to us? Why make the point about the non-existence of Harry Potter at the seemingly arbitrary age of 10 for you?

All of the above.

Try being a little more helpful to fellow posters asking reasonable questions of you, my friend - especially as it wasn’t too clear what you were saying in the first place.

RayRogers said:

Harry Potter literally didn’t exist for me when I was 10 in 1989.

Good… for… you?

doubleofive said:

RayRogers said:

Harry Potter literally didn’t exist for me when I was 10 in 1989.

Good… for… you?

Yeah, I’m not sure what that’s supposed to mean. I was also 10 in 1989, but I don’t see what being 10 has to do with reading Harry Potter.

RayRogers said:

Recommended Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings games for PS2, GameCube, GBA, DS, PC?

Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, for GameCube and PS2.

It’s an RPG centering around another party (not the Fellowship) in Middle Earth whose adventures bring them across the path or in contact with the Fellowship itself. The idea for the game was that the Fellowship’s actions are fixed exactly to what they do in the books or movies, so exploration in an RPG as themselves would be limited. However, following someone who is following the Fellowship allows you to go where they went but you can also wander off on a tangent if you want.

TV’s Frink said:

Hey guys, just so you’re aware, I was 10 in 1983 and The Decemberists didn’t exist back then.

They existed, they just didn’t exist for you.

However, Harry Potter didn’t even exist for JK Rowling in 1989, so I don’t understand anything.

What does that have to do with video games?