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#1582549
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<strong>The Acolyte</strong> (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread
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Teaser poster and a release date of June 4:
 

The Acolyte Teaser Poster, Premiere Date Revealed - https://www.starwars.com/news/the-acolyte-teaser-poster
 

 
'The Acolyte is set during the High Republic era and the prime of the Jedi Order. But based on today’s new teaser image, trouble is brewing for the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy.

In a surprise release, Lucasfilm dropped a haunting teaser poster for the upcoming Disney+ series; it features a lightsaber on the ground — blood spilled just above — and reveals the June 4 premiere date.

It was also announced that tomorrow will see the debut the official teaser trailer for the series. So don your gilded Jedi robes and be sure to come back to StarWars.com.

In The Acolyte, an investigation into a shocking crime spree pits a respected Jedi Master (Lee Jung-jae) against a dangerous warrior from his past (Amandla Stenberg). As more clues emerge, they travel down a dark path where sinister forces reveal all is not what it seems….’

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtytYWhg2mc - trailer for The Acolyte from the official Star Wars YouTube channel.

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#1581932
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<strong>The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread
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Halfway through this season and I’ve really enjoyed them all so far.

Good double episode today as well, and find myself actually looking forward for more.
 

Season 3 spoilers:

Two things that don’t sit right is…

  1. none of the clones not knowing what an “M-Count” is, or what the M stands for? Surely they served alongside the Jedi long enough to have heard about that? Or there would be some reference found in whatever intel or information they had on the Jedi in their profiles? It is only a small thing, but it appears a little contrived, and kind of a stretch.
     

  2. The use of the Republic Commandos. A pity they are so underdeveloped, and not like the original RCs of the 2004-2009 multimedia project. So far they are retooled to be “a cool nod” to something past, but nothing more, which is such a pity and waste. (Plus unfortunately the RC MMP never got to finish their own story before the 2008 The Clone Wars film & series fucked over the previously established canon, lore, and stories, especially in regards to the Clones.) From someone who still loves the 501st Journals!

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#1581581
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Dagobah, Irvin Kershner, and &quot;Makyō&quot;
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I don’t know what source it could be. Maybe the “Journal of Making Of Empire” book by Alan Arnold, or the later “Making Of Empire” book by JW Rinzler?

Both those have a number of quotes from Kershner on Empire, but it could also be something obscure like a Starlog or Insider article?

It’d certainly been cool to hear Kershner’s take, input and contributions to the force in the Empire Strikes Back!

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#1581579
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Pete Byrdie said:

I’ve been to page 19 of this thread, and realised there’s 96 pages, and I have no idea how to find anything on this forum. So please let me know if this belongs elsewhere, or if it’s already been discussed (it surely must have been).

I don’t think the Greedo scene and the Jabba scene filmed for Star Wars but only included together in 1997 were ever actually supposed to appear together. I think it was always intended to be one or the other.

I use the Index threads pinned up in each section on here.

The OT Index thread has a Character category and also a mini index for Han Shoots First / Han vs Greedo

and these have some discussions on Jabba and Greedo:

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist… - categories 9 & 34?

Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes

and most threads on the 1997 and 2004 releases probably have some sort of discussion on the scenes, and the Jabba remodel.
 

There is a search function of sorts; site:originaltrilogy.com jabba or site:originaltrilogy.com greedo

^ from I can’t find the Search function on this site - Is there one? How can I do a search? in General Assistance
 

It is kind of strange putting the 1997 Jabba scene into the film given it mainly repeats information from the previous Greedo. Even Gary Kurtz mentioned it in an interview on it.

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#1580631
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<strong>4K77</strong> - Released
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Great to see V2.0 now released for TR2N’s AI 4K77 project, and also available on MySpleen:

Star Wars: 4K77 DNR-AI project v2.0 R6 - 2160p: 80.62gb
Star Wars: 4K77 DNR-AI project v2.0 R6 - 1080p: 41.09gb
Star Wars: 4K77 DNR-AI project v2.0 R6 - 2160p HDR: 64.55gb
 

Edit: TR2N’s 4K77 DNR-AI project 2.0 R6 (4K HDR, 4K SDR & HD) | Finished

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#1580630
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Star Wars Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Some details on what the recently canceled Star Wars FPS game would have been:

https://insider-gaming.com/star-wars-mandalorian-game-canceled
 

'It’s been just two weeks since Insider Gaming exclusively reported on the first details on Respawn Entertainment’s first-person Star Wars Mandalorian game, but just yesterday, the game was officially canceled by EA.

First, it should be said that by all accounts this game was fantastic – and that isn’t just coming from the developers, but from everybody who had the opportunity to play the game. Feedback from playtests was always positive and surrounded by buzz, with the developers enjoying the entire process of working on the project. That being said, for whatever reason, EA felt like the game was too much of a financial risk and has decided to pull the plug.

What was Respawn’s Mandalorian Game?

As previously reported, the game was set to be based on a Mandalorian bounty hunter (not believed to be THE Mandalorian), that would see the player search for bounties across the galaxy.

The game started with ‘the den’, which was the player’s base of operations, that contained your ship, a map of the galaxy, an upgrade station, an armory, and more. It’s understood that it would be here where you would select which bounties you’d want to pursue. The player could then equip the weapons they wanted, upgrade their armor, and then go into the ship and land on the planet where the bounty is located.

The game was not an open world and instead offered a linear level experience, but did have some larger open areas for the player to explore and find their bounties and other secrets. Combat was described as very fast-paced due to the Mandalorian jetpack that allowed for vertical dashing and horizontal boosting for reaching those high-to-reach places. It was also said that there was a takedown feature, which would see your character perform takedowns, somewhat reminiscent of DOOM (but a lot less gorey) to take down enemies.

The main enemies were stormtroopers, who would patrol most maps as you try and complete your bounty and had several different types that you come to expect from a Star Wars game – regular, shotgun, sniper, heavy (rockets), and more. It’s also understood that the game featured ‘boss-like’ enemies periodically, which would see you face AT-ST walkers etc. Other enemies would depend on the planet you were on but could range from gangs of outlaws to other bounty hunters who wanted to beat you to the punch.

It’s believed that the game was still a ways off from its release, but it’s understood that the game had a fairly polished vertical slice and a few other missions/levels near completion.

The game was in development for the PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S|X, and PC.’

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#1580223
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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Andor star Stellan Skarsgård says the “Star Wars show for grown-ups” will end on a high and hints at season 2 release date - at Games Radar

'He said: “It’s the last season of it. It ends where Rogue One starts so it’s up to that point. I think it will be very good as already the first one was satisfying for me because it’s sort of Star Wars for grown-ups – it’s a more realistic and complicated society that they’re living in and the claustrophobia of the fascist regime is palpable. I think we have a good season ahead of us.”

As to when that wait will come to an end, Skarsgård also shed some light on the expected Andor season 2 release date. In December 2023 the show was notably absent from Disney’s 2024 release schedule, dashing hopes that it will release this year. Despite being originally set for that, production was halted by both the WGA writers’ strike and the SAG-AFTRA actors’ strike.

However, it’s worth noting that no official statement has been made by Disney and according to Skarsgård, there is still a chance we will get our Andor fix this year… just much later than initially anticipated. He told us: “It will probably be out towards the end of the year or early next.” Just keep those eyes peeled then!’
 

I really hope so. I want them to take their time and get it right, but towards the ned of year or early next year would be great to finally see.

 
Edit. I found a 50 second video of the above Stellan Skarsgård interview on Andor season 2:

https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1762583408050405730

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#1580222
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Star Wars Video Games - a general discussion thread
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Flopsy said:

DISLIKED:

  • Phantom Menace
  • Episode 1 Racer
  • Jedi Starfighter

I couldn’t get into that game. I should have loved it, a simple blast 'em space shooter, but hardly played it. What didn’t about it for you, Flopsy?

 
 
In other news:

EA is laying off around 5% of staff, stopping development on a Respawn Star Wars FPS, and ‘winding down Ridgeline as a standalone studio’ at Tech Radar

‘We’re already aware of one of the games that has been affected by this change in strategy: a first-person shooter (FPS) Star Wars action game developed by Respawn Entertainment. Miele stated that gamers are “most excited” about Respawn’s existing library of brands, as well as its Star Wars Jedi games, which influenced the decision to move away from the FPS. Focus will instead be placed on “new projects based on our owned brands while providing support for existing games.”’

650 staff laid off and no new Star Wars FPS game. That sucks.

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#1579597
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<strong>The Jedi Purge</strong> | The Empire hunting down the Jedi Knights | a general discussion
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Gandalf the Cyan said:

Keyan Farlander said:

This feels kind of right:

Exactly this. So many Jedi survived that, if you look at ROTS, Order 66 feels meaningless. It removes any/all of the emotional impact it had in that movie.

Plus, the idea of a Jedi surviving Order 66 has become incredibly cliché to the point that it comes across as lazy writing. It seems as though every Star Wars TV/EU writer thought “a Jedi survives Order 66 story would be cool” without realizing that dozens of other writers had the exact same idea. It’s cheapening too, as it makes the idea of Obi-Wan and Yoda being the last remnants of the Jedi seem dubious. The Obi-Wan show was especially terrible about this, with the existence of an Underground Railroad for Jedi, and there are apparently so many survivors that there just happen to be two survivors on the same remote backwater planet (the other Jedi on Tatooine in Ep1.) It makes you wonder why the survivors didn’t team up to stage a coup to overthrow the Empire or something, since there evidently were enough of them to do so.

It is like you took the words right out of my mouth!

This, along with the bringing back of dead characters, and a growing number of characters surviving lightsaber impalements, are choices I really wish Star Wars writers would stop using.

If they can’t write an original story idea, new compelling characters (learn to “let go” of the dead ones), or rely on lowering the stakes of the action by having characters walk off quickly and easily being impaled by a lightsaber, perhaps they shouldn’t be writing for Star Wars.
 

Keyan Farlander said:

The “They tried to regroup, but they were eventually massacred by one of the elite special forces led by Darth Vader” would have indeed been much more preferable to what we actually got in Revenge of the Sith.

Personally I’d have preferred to have seen an Order 66 type event in the 2nd PT film, leaving the third film to deal with the fallout of that, and really hammer home the defeat of the Jedi and the Republic, instead of a few montage shots, Anakin killing helpless kids again, and some way overlong fight with Obi-Wan which was monotonous and became boring after just a few minutes.

 


 

The 501st Journal

 

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Inhibitor chips? We didn’t need no stinkin’ inhibitor chips!

 
From a time when the Clones were growing increasingly disenchanted with the Jedi for some time before Order 66, had already started working in secret behind the Jedis’ backs; even undergoing secret side missions on behalf of Chancellor Palpatine.

This was obviously before the clones’ story was later retconned in 2008’s The Clone Wars film and TV series to include the inhibitor chips. A decision to retcon the clones and perhaps portray them as unwitting victims, to humanize and personalize them for the 2008 film and series, as opposed to the above original storyline and lore, maybe?
 

The 501st Journals highlighted some of these clone actions against the Jedi, in the then canon 2005 Battlefront II video game:

'The 501st Journal was a compiled record of journal entries written by one or more retired members of the 501st Legion.

The entries summarized their most famous battles, captured the feelings of individual troopers, and traced the 501st from its origins in the Clone Wars to its development as “Vader’s Fist” during the Galactic Civil War.

The journal was kept as secret as the missions undertaken by the 501st; only after the fall of the Galactic Empire were the journals recovered.’

and

‘Temuera Morrison provides the voice for the narrator of every journal entry. In the game’s credits, the character is identified simply as “Retired clone trooper,” implying that he survived all of the battles above mentioned.’

^ from https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/501st_Journal & https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront_II

 
 

The 501st Journal:
 

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Star Wars Battlefront II (Classic) - 501st Journal (Full) HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOq1Tg-Jdw - 18 minute video at the StereoLyrics Tracks YouTube channel.

This is the journal compiled together by a clone trooper from the 501st Legion in the game Star Wars Battlefront II.

 
 

The 501st Journals Told A Very Different Story About Order 66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZOH-Bw7nAg - 17 minute video at the Generation Tech YouTube channel.

 
 

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Am I the only one that has a fundamental issue with Clones’ Inhibitor Chips? - 2023 thread by Kyp_Astaar talks more about this.

 

Republic Commando | Lucasfilm’s 2004-2009 EU multimedia project | lore retcon #2,378 - 2024 thread by me.
 

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#1579098
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Health and Fitness
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I recently started walking to my local park each day, when the weather isn’t awful. It is a 20 minute walk each way, and spend another 20 minutes there just sitting on the bench and taking in the views. No looking at mobile, tablets, or screens, just turn them off for the duration.

I’m starting to feel better for it. I may even break into a slow run one day soon, when the weather is ok.

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#1578730
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How much does Lucas owe to Jorodowky’s Dune? Would Star Wars even exist without Dune?
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Frank Herbert always thought Star Wars was a Dune ripoff - article at Polygon:
 

'Much like the mystical religions spread by its Bene Gesserit, the influences of Dune spread to every corner of the universe of science fiction. In some stories, the inspirations are woven so tightly into the fabric of the story they’re nearly impossible to pick up, maybe even for the author themself. In others, the homages to Dune are unmissable, occasionally to the point of being distracting. And then there’s Star Wars, the most blatant ripoff of all — at least, according to Frank Herbert.

The Dune author didn’t talk much about George Lucas’ landmark science fiction film before his death in 1986, but he answered a few questions about it over the years, and he always seemed at least a little annoyed at the similarities between the two stories.

The first public comments he seems to have made about the movie come from an interview with the Associated Press from 1977, the year A New Hope was released. The article is pretty straightforward shit-stirring, but it’s clear that while Herbert hadn’t yet seen the movie, he did have some thoughts about its similarities to his seminal series, which was already three books in.

Herbert starts by saying an editor for the Village Voice had called him and asked if he had seen Star Wars, and whether or not he was going to sue. It’s a strong lead-in, but apparently that’s what was top of mind of Herbert.

“I will try hard not to sue,” Herbert told the Associated Press. “I have no idea what book of mine it fits, but I suspect it may be Dune since in that I had a Princess Alia and the movie has a Princess Leia. And I hear there is a sandworm carcass and hood dwellers in the desert, just like in Dune.”

Herbert goes on to brag, rightfully, about the ubiquity of Dune, both in popular culture and even as a college textbook on subjects like “architecture, psychology, writing, English, human living, space analysis, and some I’ve forgotten.” Herbert doesn’t get too specific in this early article, but it’s clear the movie’s reported similarities to his own work didn’t sit quite right with him. And later it would be even clearer that they stuck in his craw, one way or another.

Now, with decades of hindsight and years of interviews, it’s easy to see that Star Wars, particularly the first film, is an amalgamation of many genres and stories, including (but not limited to) science fiction, mythical fantasy, and the samurai movies of Akira Kurosawa. There’s also an entire expanded universe of history in the Star Wars galaxy that borrows from all over the sci-fi canon, and has helped inspire just as many future writers.

But if you consider the time when Star Wars was just one tremendously successful summer blockbuster, it’s easy to understand why Herbert might have had a bone to pick. And as the years went by, it’s clear that he thought quite a bit about the subject, enough to count the similarities between the titles.

“Lucas has never admitted that they copied a lot of Dune, and I’m not saying they did,” Herbert said in 1985, during a speaking engagement at UCLA. “I’m just saying there are 16 points of identity between the book Dune and Star Wars. Now you’ve had stat — what is it? It’s 16 times 16 times 16 times… over 1, the odds against that being coincidence? There aren’t that many stars in the universe.”

Herbert’s frustrated quote stemmed from a question about whether or not Lucas ever bought Herbert dinner — a reference to a long-standing joke of Herbert’s that even if Lucas didn’t blatantly steal his ideas to make Star Wars, he at least owes Herbert dinner for the coincidence.

But Frank Herbert was one to lose out on a war of pettiness. A year before that UCLA interview, he published Heretics of Dune, the fifth book in the series and the second to last written by him. Late in the book, which is mostly about the future of humanity after the death of The God Emperor, Herbert has a small, inconspicuous passage that certainly feels like a reference to Star Wars. He doesn’t seem to have ever said that officially, so we’ll let you judge:

In the time of the Old Empire and even under the reign of Maud’Dib, the region around the Gammu Keep had been a forest reserve, high ground rising well above the oily residue that tended to cover Harkonnen land. On this ground, the Harkonnens had grown some of the finest pilingitam, a wood of steady currency, always valued by the supremely rich. From the most ancient times, the knowledgeable had preferred to surround themselves with fine woods rather than with the mass-produced artificial materials known then as polestine, polaz, and pormabat (latterly: tine, laz, and bat). As far back as the Old Empire there had been a pejorative label for the small rich and Families Minor arising from the knowledge of the rare wood’s value.

“He’s a three P-O,” they said, meaning that such a person surrounded himself with cheap copies made from déclassé substances.

 
I knew Star Wars had borrowed a number of elements from Dune. Although I never knew Frank Herbert was annoyed or frustrated by it.

It does appear a bit rich from Lucas to have sued Battlestar Galactica back in 79/80? for plagiarism, given he had borrowed so many ideas from Dune (and many other sci-fi works) himself.

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#1578686
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Multimedia Project vs The Clone Wars
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Keyan Farlander said:

I prefer the 2003 Clone Wars MMP. Much more fun and entertaining to watch, and it didn’t screw up continuity and re-write history like the 2008 series often did.

Same here. 2002-2007 Clone Wars MMP is the highlight of the PT era to me. The quality of Matthew Stover’s ROTS novel is also up there, along with Republic Commando mini-MMP and the old Mandalorian lore (before the 2008 TCW retcons).

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#1578346
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<strong>The New Republic era</strong> | from post-ROTJ to the Sequel Trilogy | a general discussion
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Keyan Farlander said:

Star Wars: The Fall of the New Republic

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItmwgOFXzM - an 8 minute video from the SWFT YouTube channel

Description: ‘A montage of the establishment, reign and fall of the New Republic, a galactic government in Star Wars.’
 

I felt more emotion and investment in the New Republic and watching the above video than I have from the continuing underwhelming depiction of the New Republic on-screen. A cleverly worked fan edit short from SWFT.

That was a good watch. Although it makes me sad after watching it that there are good segments in among what we have seen in the portrayal of the New Republic, but they are unfortunately without a foundation, an immersion or emotional connection for this era.

Avoiding the OT legacy characters, or having them appear as weird CGI faces and not actually doing much, only helps that. Instead, too often we are often “told, not shown”, and not “show, don’t tell”. We are then expected to connect with what little setting this era have been given. None of it seems planned out very well, it comes off as ad-hoc, gimmicky, or lacking. Like Caston says in his OP: it and the OT heroes deserves so much more, and I agree with Channel when he says the writing for it sucks, which leads me to being somewhere between frustration and indifference for this New Republic era.

So much that I’ve given up on it. No more Filoni & Favreau series or films for me. They just don’t appeal to me anymore, and I’m fed up of feeling frustrated and indifferent. Instead I’ll stick to Andor, Visions, Acolyte, Skeleton Crew, and The Dawn of the Jedi film. Rey’s NJO film too, given it is set past that ST era and is being made by new talents that will hopefully bring something fresh and different.
 

(the above isn’t a slam at anyone who still enjoys or loves the Mandoverse shows, excited by the newly announced F&F content, or the New Republic era. Everyone just has different views, and I’m glad that others are appreciating and eagerly watching them.)

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#1578026
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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StarkillerAG said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

If you weren’t referring to any members on this board who don’t have gushing thoughts about any upcoming SW projects…then why did you mention it in the first place? Did you think anyone here wanted to hear your rant on “hating the haters”? Still is not the place for your personal vitriol against a 0000.01% minority.

Dude, he wasn’t saying “Rey is 100% gonna be good and anyone who says otherwise is a hater”, he was saying “Rey has potential, and even if it sucks it won’t be because of its ‘SJW woke agenda’ or whatever.”

100% this.

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#1577923
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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Fan_edit_fan said:

Patronizing terms such as “click haters” and “fandumb menace” are not welcome here. You can be excited for a project you know little about without having to label and ridicule posters on this forum. You come off way more toxic than anything you’re pretending to be “against” and perhaps a bit too hostile. 😉

I was referring to the hate-based content makers; the clickhaters and the fandumb menace. As in:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Although they’ll be trying their best, and the usual suspects will certainly be profiting from grandstanding that hate. And that’s before we’ll see anything from the film itself!

and there was also no ridiculing of posters, or being “toxic” to other posters, on here.

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#1577910
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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rocknroll41 said:

screams in the void said:

Z6PO said:

Daisy Ridley excited for “fun direction” of new STAR WARS film (YouTube)

I’m glad she is excited to return . Also glad to hear her praise of Sharmeen Obaid’s documentary experience . Wasn’t there something about George Lucas making the original Star Wars in a documentary style ? Seems like this may be in good hands , between the lead , the director and the writer , I am optimistic . Idk , we will see . anyway , looking forward to seeing Star Wars in theaters again soon .

I’m optimistic too, but if I recall correctly, the whole thing about treating sw77 like a documentary had more to do with the first (notorious) cut of the film, and that the documentary “feel” was diminished for the Final Cut once they realized that it wasn’t working. That said, Sharmeen might still make a great film, and her documentary background could still very well be a good thing for this. Only time will tell.

Admittedly, though, the lack of enthusiasm from most others makes it difficult for me to maintain my own excitement, especially since now people are hating on this director for an out-of-context quote from 9 years ago. I might not even end up seeing the movie, cause I feel like I lose either way. Either I’ll hate it, or everyone will yell at me for liking it.

I’m looking forward to this, I didn’t think I would be, but Daisy’s excitement for it is infectious! So why shouldn’t fans be positive?

I know some of us a cautious, going on the mixed-to-disappointing content from Star Wars of late, and the ST, but this is something new from new people behind the scenes. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and look forward to it.

Screw the haters for bringing their out of context quotes from years ago and trying to merge them into something they are clearly not. Don’t let them spoil your take on the film. Hopefully it’ll be a good one, maybe something a little different too?

If it sucks, then okay, but it won’t be because of perceived political “agendas”, or the hate of Fandumb Menace and clickhaiters spout. Although they’ll be trying their best, and the usual suspects will certainly be profiting from grandstanding that hate. And that’s before we’ll see anything from the film itself!

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#1577853
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<strong>The Acolyte</strong> (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread
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‘Star Wars: The Acolyte’ Sets Summer 2024 Release Window [Exclusive] - from Collider

 
• The Acolyte is a highly-anticipated Star Wars series set to release on Disney+ this summer, taking place 50 years before The Phantom Menace .
• The series follows a former Jedi Padawan and her one-time Master as they investigate sinister crimes in an ever-changing galaxy, challenging the fallibility of the Jedi Order.
• Exciting is the inclusion of Vernestra Rwoh, a fan-favorite character from The High Republic books, promising an intriguing storyline.
 

'High Republic fans, the wait just got that much more bearable. Ever since releasing its first trailer at Star Wars Celebration in London last year, the hype for Star Wars series The Acolyte has only grown, with fans eager for any update on the highly-anticipated project. Now, Collider has learned that the live-action High Republic-set series from creator Leslye Headland is set to release on Disney+ this summer.

Set 50 years before the events of The Phantom Menace, The Acolyte will follow a former Jedi Padawan, and her one-time Master as they fall into an investigation of sinister crimes in an ever-changing galaxy. The trailer that premiered at Star Wars Celebration only gave fans a hint at what they could expect when the series premieres, but even so, already impressed those lucky enough to see it with the bold visual take on an era that thus far has not appeared on screen.

The series also boasts a massive, and massively-talented, ensemble cast led by Amandla Stenberg. They will be joined by Squid Game star Lee Jung-jae as a Jedi Master, and Joonas Suotamo as a Wookiee Jedi named Kelnacca. Also in The Acolyte’s cast are Jodie Turner-Smith, Manny Jacinto, and Charlie Barnett, though in typical Star Wars fashion, details about their roles are heavily under wraps.
 

 
‘The Acolyte’ Has a Connection to ‘The High Republic’ Books

Less under wraps, and perhaps most exciting to fans of The High Republic books, was the news that Rebecca Henderson, initially announced to be playing a Mirialan Jedi, would in fact be playing an older version of Vernestra Rwoh, one of the more prominent characters in Phase I and III of the books, and an all-around fan-favorite.

The inclusion of Vernsestra is an exciting one, not just because of the connection to the books, but because of what such an inclusion might spell for fans of both the books and the character in her on-page and on-screen incarnations. Headland told Collider at Celebration that the series would “not be kind” to the Jedi, and would call the fallibility of the institution into question. With all the struggles Vernestra has already been through, and those she still has to face, there are probably few characters better suited to tackle the imperfections of the Jedi Order from the inside.

The Acolyte will premiere on Disney+ in Summer 2024.’
 

I am guessing the week after The Bad Batch season 3 finishes? (the final episode of TBB is on May 1)

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#1577649
Topic
Poll: which ship would you wanna fly?
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Mocata said:

Razor Crest looks pretty cosy.

Taken from us too soon! I did like that ship, a welcome alternative to the Slave I.
 

I always had a soft spot for the E-Wing. The Legends version with the 3 laser gun over the cockpit, not so much the new Ahsoka series version.
 

 
Although the new E-Wing model from Hasbro does look quite nice, and “only” $100 (I think I’ll wait for the much cheaper ‘Micro Galaxy Squadron’ version, and hope they do a Legends version with the 3rd laser):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vEEFYBIlhY

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#1577647
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<strong>Pre-PT era lore</strong> | an OT &amp; EU scrapbook resource | additional info &amp; sources welcome
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Channel72 said:

There’s a fan-made plot synopsis/script outline that was circulating around in the 80s or early 90s which told the story of Episode 3. Obi-Wan is essentially the main character. The story also featured characters like “Lady Arcadia Skywalker”, who was Anakin’s wife, Bail Organa, and Captain Antilles. The story focuses a lot on the Alderaanian forces as Palpatine takes control of the Republic. There’s also a “Prince Valarium”, which indicates that whoever wrote this may have actually read (or at least heard details about) genuine early drafts of Star Wars. (They definitely read the ANH novelization at least.)

Anyway, this fan-made synopsis is close - both plot-wise and stylistically - to my vague expectations about the Prequels. At least, much closer than the actual Prequels that were released 1999-2005. I can’t say to what extent this fan-made synopsis was an amalgamation of pre-existing fan expectations, or to what extent it actually influenced fan expectations. I can’t even remember when or if I became aware of this plot synopsis as a child. But I can say with certainty that this plot synopsis is at least closer in spirit to what I expected from the Prequels.

Yeah! John L Flynn’s “Fall Of The Republic” script.

There are a few pieces about it listed in the Index thread for ‘Beyond the Original Trilogy’:

oojason said:
 

For those who are familiar with it, what do you think of the fan script of “Fall of the Republic”? (2023 thread)

Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005 thread; John L Flynn’s ‘Fall Of The Republic’ fan-script)

^ John L Flynn’s ‘fan-lore’ script: 1983’s Fall of the Republic & 1994’s Looking Back to the Future of Star Wars & his other works

He also wrote pieces for Starlog, and maybe similar publications like Insider and CineScape? One of the above threads has a podcast with him on it talking about FOTR and his similar works. Screamsinthevoid linked to an article of two by him in here from the mid-90s, I’ll dig them out later.

I really liked FOTR at the time, and still prefer it to what we actually got. Though imagination and our projections in filling in the blanks often triumphs reality. I’d love to see an animation or comic book form of it, even fan made, but then is so much of that early “what if?” stuff I’d like to see, along the lines of “The Star Wars” comics from 2013/14.

 

Edit: John L Flynn article in Cinemscape for March 1995, posted up by Screamsinthevoid:

 

and just for fun: screams also posted a link to a Cinescape article from November 1997 guessing at what the Prequels could be like: