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#1546050
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Who is the greatest Jedi of all time? (Dave Filoni says it is Anakin Skywalker. Is he?)
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Who is the greatest Jedi of all time?

 
In the latest trailer for the coming Ahsoka series, Dave Filoni says:

“We’re telling the story about this character [Ahsoka] who’s been trained by the greatest Jedi of all time in Anakin Skywalker.”
 

 
^ The 2 minute trailer can be seen on the official Star Wars YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpBJu52aZec
 

I suppose it rests on how you define “great”? So who for you is “the greatest Jedi of all time”, and why?

Or do you have no preference, but still disagree with Filoni on his above claim that Anakin is “the greatest”?
 

Or is Filoni simply trying to play up the importance of Ahsoka in the GFFA, for his “religious experience” of an Ahsoka series?

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#1545890
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The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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Ridiculous Star Wars trivia to melt your mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLPyAhwJycU - a 6 minute EC Henry video
 

“Star Wars is a never-ending spring of interesting things to notice. Here’s a list of wild stuff I’ve observed and learned while watching Star Wars with a level of scrutiny some consider to be unnatural.”

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#1545816
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<strong>The 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special</strong> - a general discussion thread
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Mocata said:

LOL it’s still awful. I wonder why they kept it looking like a TV broadcast with the frame rate, is that more authentic?

I couldn’t watch more than 5 minutes of it. It looks all “nice and sharp”, but I know nothing about preservations or AI upgrades.

I do know 5 minutes is usually how long it takes of watching the Holiday Special before I have to switch it off! 😃

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#1545807
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<strong>The 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special</strong> - a general discussion thread
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Another AI HD remaster of The Holiday Special up on YouTube:
 

The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978 HD Remaster - 1080p60fps AI Restoration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAG3uAIF-Rc - an 89 minute video at the UE Media YouTube channel.
 

"This video was upscaled and cleaned up with AI programs.

DISNEY BLOCKED THE BOBA FETT CARTOON PART

The Star Wars Holiday Special is a 1978 American television special that originally aired on November 17, 1978, on CBS. It is set in the universe of the sci-fi-based Star Wars media franchise. Directed by Steve Binder, it was the first Star Wars spin-off film, set between the events of the original film and The Empire Strikes Back (1980). It stars the main cast of the original Star Wars and introduces the character of Boba Fett, who appeared in later films.

In the storyline that ties the special together, Chewbacca and Han Solo attempt to visit the Wookiee home planet of Kashyyyk to celebrate “Life Day”. The special introduces three members of Chewbacca’s family: his father Itchy, his wife Malla, and his son Lumpy.

The special is notorious for its extremely negative reception and has never been rebroadcast nor officially released on home video."

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#1545579
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Disney Star Wars is just a Bad Karma for George Lucas
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Caston said:

Mocata said:

He got billions of dollars and is now more revered than he ever was before. Selling out only cemented his status as the creator of the real Star Wars. Soon he will open a museum celebrating this kind of false narrative. I don’t think a karmic blacklash is heading his way any time soon.

Sadly, yes. Dammit karma, you’re failing at karma.

Is that museum thing of his still going ahead? That’ll be interesting to see any new “it was always meant to be like this” claims from him on Star Wars history.

Opening in 2025 according to the https://lucasmuseum.org/narrative-art/ website. It probably got delayed due to the pandemic.

It is probably for the best it is a museum of narrative art, than it is a history museum. There would almost certainly be some additional retcons and rewrites of history if Star Wars features heavily in it. I am hoping for some cool Indy pieces, that should fun to see.

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#1545405
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Highest quality version of 1997 Special Editions? Is there a DVD release?
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The Aluminum Falcon’s Calibrated 1997 Scan of Star Wars: A New Hope - Special Edition hasn’t quite yet reached their funding target yet.

Just short of $100 or so.

If anyone was interested in having the highest quality version of the 1997 Special Editions available, then that’s a project they should be looking at, and donating to.

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#1545404
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<strong>1997 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 1997 Special Edition discussion thread
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Juno Eclipse said:

Those are some well made points. Plus, a concerted effort of celebrating something that isn’t actually available would seem strange, and likely raise more unwanted questions.
 

I do find it ironic that many a 1997 Special Edition fan having to come here and look around for those preservation projects, especially given attitudes, insults, and actions of many of those early SE fans back in the day to fans of the theatrical cuts.

That would include a considerable number of fans from the likes of the staunchly pro-SE TFN, even their moderators and staff, who were part of the purging of OOT fans on TFN back in the early/mid 2000’s. I wonder if many of their views and positions have changed over time, with more releases of the Special Editions with further alterations.

I’m surprised that 1997 SE fan preservation projects like Calibrated 1997 Scan of Star Wars: A New Hope - Special Edition haven’t yet reached their funding targets.

It looks a great project too.

I thought given the number of Special Edition fans out there, and who have also visited here asking for 1997 SE projects, that it would have been funded by now. Huh.

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#1544619
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Pedro wasn’t in the Season 3 Gallery Doc, other than archive footage from previous seasons. Phil Tippett wasn’t in the doc either, despite being featured in the trailer for it.

It was an hour long commercial really, superficial, and of little interest. It did have a few minutes of the directors talking about their respective episodes. And Favreau and Filoni talking about what they were trying to achieve with season 3. Lots of people in it saying how they grew up with and love Star Wars again. The usual format and talking to camera.

This wasn’t a bad doc, just very bland, and wasn’t really a “Making Of” at all. It is the type of thing you have on in the background while doing something else.

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#1544585
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The <strong>random Pictures &amp; GIFs</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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“❤️❤️Robert Watts the producer of the original Indiana Jones trilogy and our Honorary President at @SciFi_Archives
reconnects with Harrison Ford at London premiere❤️❤️”: https://twitter.com/GIRODPATRICE/status/1673650502138052608

 
Robert Watts is also a producer on both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, and production manager on Star Wars.
 

Jamie Benning did an awesome 30 minute documentary, “Robert Watts – A Life in Film” on him, in 2018:

https://filmumentaries.com/fullvideos

 
He also had a cameo in Return of the Jedi, with director Richard Marquand, as AT-ST drivers:

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#1544423
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Original Trilogy Edits - some changes are justified
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That is good news for Cinderella. Maybe Lucasfilm should hand it out to a number of companies to see which can do the best restoration job for the unaltered OT? Disney included? Or just give it to Disney to do, they could do with the good publicity and the reportedly the money too!

 

I was wrong with what I said in my previous post above. Something was bugging me about it but I couldn’t remember what it was, and then it finally came around back to me.

People shouldn’t be able to alter others films. Only the director should be able to do that. According to George Lucas himself!
 

From category “39. Who made the Original Trilogy films…? Whose are they to alter…?” of oojason’s thread:

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…
 

'An abridged screenshot from JW Rinzler’s ‘The Making Of Episode III’ book; a quoted conversation between Frank Oz and George Lucas…

^ George Lucas: “Seriously, that’s why I’m a member of the Film Foundation (filmmakers for film preservation). A director should be able to change his films - but nobody else.”

At the time of above conversation George Lucas had already made changes to directors Irvin Kershner’s ‘Empire Strikes Back’, and Richard Marquand’s ‘Return Of The Jedi’ - and would also make go on to make further additional changes to both films.

Neither the Empire Strikes Back or Return Of The Jedi are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, on a modern and quality digital format.’

 

There’s more information in that category talking about whose films they are: ESB being Kershner’s, ROTJ being Marquand’s.

So that’s a big “no” on the claim that “some changes are justified”.

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#1544373
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Original Trilogy Edits - some changes are justified
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HarrisHolt said:

I know a lot of hardcore fans of the original Star Wars are very picky on it being the same way it was when it was released, and I completely understand, but some edits are completely justified. Like when they knocked down some walls in the Cloud City. Or when they replaced that horrible Palpatine character with the well known Ian McDiarmid Palpatine. Or when they fixed the lightsaber shots in the original movie to replace the original reflective material shots which didn’t always work in some shots. Just FYI, I am not dissing the original edits, I am just stating my opinion.

I think this type of argument usually misses the big Max Rebo in the room. That likely nobody would care how many changes George makes, SE releases made available, or how many changing reasons or lies he comes up with to justify further changes to previous changes; it is suppressing the original cuts that is the main issue.

Having the original cuts be released alongside whatever Special Edition cut George wanted to release every few years and there probably wouldn’t be much of a problem; in the best possible quality and QA, of course.

Film history preserved. In the latest home format available over time, alongside George’s latest SE version. Everyone happy.

Or simply release every version: the original cuts, the 1997SE, 2004SE, 2011SE, 2019SE. Every fan would be happy with that too, and the $$$ for Lucasfilm would be rolling in. Through physical media sales, or Disney+ subscriptions.

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#1544094
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Prequels or Sequels; Which do you prefer - and why?
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The Sequel Trilogy for me also. For pretty much the reasons Caston did above, and others previously highlighted on the 1st page. WookieeWarrior77 makes a solid point too about the OT being changed so the Prequels fit better, and are more damaging to the OT. Changing the OT made little sense, other than it being a “free test” for the coming Prequels, and a poor and lazy attempt to “tie them together” after in 2004. Although it did remind me how jarring the PT was in comparison, as well as half-assed ideas such as introducing the “Chosen One” prophecy and “midichlorians”, the countless and needless contradictions featured in them.

The Sequels didn’t really do that nearly as much, or have such a negative effect. Sure, far too many mystery boxes and unanswered questions, and lack of overall cohesion, but didn’t take me out of the films in the way the Prequels do. Maybe the ST is just more “meh”, empty, less substance? The ST did makes more of an effort to continue on from the OT, which PT certainly didn’t even attempt to gel with half as much.

Those racial stereotypes in the PT too, man, they really do stand out. Cinema can date badly, but those 3 films were made in the last 25 years. Speaking of dating badly, many of those “dense” PT effects could do with being reworked. Time for a “Special Edition” of the Prequels, as has been suggested in other threads? The ST too. I’ll stick with the fan edits for if I ever want to watch either trilogy again.

Someone elsewhere on here made an interesting point: since TROS finished up the third trilogy, the Prequels are now only one third of the whole “Saga”, whereas before they were obviously a half, and so were simply more focused on beforehand? For some of us, instead of half the Saga being bafflingly and disappointingly poor in comparison to the OT, it is closer to two-thirds? Simple, but likely something to that?
 

I’ll echo what has already been said in this thread: the Sequels over the Prequels for me too, but would also prefer to watch Andor, 2003 Clone Wars, R1, Visions, later Bad Batch and Rebels, than either the ST or PT. I’m hoping the coming Acolyte series joins that list.

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#1544052
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Caston said:

“Disney Gallery: Season 3 of Mandalorian” is out on Disney+ on June 28.

I don’t think I’d have bothered to watch this if it wasn’t for Acbagel’s detective work above. There could be some more clues and footage in this Disney Gallery doc, in among the usual “everything is great” claims and usual format for these docs?

Still next to nothing for Andor.

I do wonder how much of Pedro Pascal will be in this doc! Or if there’ll be any nuggets of information on what they were trying to achieve with season 3.

It is frustrating and disappointing that compared with other Disney+ SW series and even games etc, there is still so little BTS content, docs, shorts, VFX videos, and books for Andor.

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#1543992
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The Clone Wars messes up continuity or how Lucas is still destroying star wars.
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Emre16O1 said:

Personally, I think fuck their made up and changing “official canon” claims/rules. Whatever you want it to be, that’s your canon.

If you bought the books, novels, comics, toys, and merchandise from any and all the multimedia projects and EU or whatever, then that is your canon if you want. It doesn’t matter what George, Filoni or Lucasfilm says; when they are trying to retcon history, or when they can’t even manage to keep their own later invented stories and incorrect claims straight.

100% agree.

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#1543882
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I love the OOT fan projects here - yet still want an official unaltered OT release. You too?
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Nice images! What on earth has happened to Lucasfilm’s once revered QA?

Yeah, that is also good reminder that many fans may not have likely heard of the Despecialized Edits or the TN1 4K projects, have the know how to acquire them and burn to disc, or to play them through a media center/server setup. That’s easy to forget for us more “online” and supposed tech-savvy fans.

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#1543874
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I love the OOT fan projects here - yet still want an official unaltered OT release. You too?
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I love the OOT fan projects here - yet still want an official unaltered OT release. You too?
 

Yes, of course. But I think even if it there was an official release we would still likely need fan projects to fix or improve them.
 

I saw theprequelsrule’s recent post here and him talking about only engaging with fan made projects in Star Wars, and it got me thinking:

Lucasfilm haven’t done a quality release of the Original Trilogy since the 1990’s! Not with the care and attention it deserves.

2004 SE DVD? Awful. “Deliberate creative decisions” bullshit, faulty discs, more changes, terrible blue coloring.
2006 GOUT DVD? Insulting. An obsolete and low effort release of a 13 year lasderdisc transfer, and huge DNR issues.
2011 SE blu ray? Awful. More coloring issues and loss of detail. More changes too. Nooo-oooooooo!
2019 SE 4k/UHD? Poor. Yet more changes, It was better than the previous efforts, but big losses of image detail.
 

It is the fan projects on here that have previously fixed and improved upon the actual official releases. And would probably do so again if there ever is an official release of the unaltered theatrical cuts from Lucasfilm.

Don’t get me wrong, I want such a release as much as the next fan. And I love and agree with these important threads on here:
 

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts—All of Them - doubleofive’s article for Wired. a backup to the Wired article

^ A quality and comprehensive article on why the films are important to the people who grew up with them, why they wish to have the option to experience them as they originally were released - as well as preserving important and cultural film history for everyone to experience. A reminder that the various ‘Special Edition’ versions are NOT the award-winning, iconic, landmark & ground-breaking original version of the films. And highlights just why we are here - some of us for many years, and some just taking our first steps…

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogyWhat We Want And How To Make It - a sequel piece by doubleofive to the above Wired article.

“Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts” 2020 article - on Wired (OT•com thread on the Wired article by doubleofive)

❗ #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy•com’s enduring goal | How YOU can help… ❗

^ The OT•com supporting the #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - the call for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the three classic Star Wars films - and what YOU can do to help restore them to the galaxy. MTFBWY… Always.

and

Some useful OT.com threads re the suppression of the theatrical Original Trilogy films

Is the idea of Criterion putting the unaltered theatrical Original Trilogy out on Blu-ray or 4K such a far-fetched concept now?

Disney+ should release all of the theatrical versions of the Star Wars movies on their streaming service

I’ll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy

The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy…

^ and many other great threads on here too.

I think Criterion would do a great job. But if Lucasfilm did an unaltered cut release of the OT? It’d be fantastic to finally have, sure. And it’d even better when the talented people on here and TSWT would likely start on improvements and fixes within days of it hitting the shelves or Disney+!

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#1543834
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Star Wars Return of the Jedi Read-Along Story Book and Cassette - from 1983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSZeN7fW8Q8 - 14 minute video, at Star Wars Radio

more information: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Return_of_the_Jedi_(book-and-record)
 

a flick through the actual book 14 minute video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3O79uxqTvk

 

I had a blast listening to these and going through the old art from the books. I hope it may interest others too.

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#1543833
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Read-Along Story Book and Cassette - from 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rxQIiblzA - 13 minute video, at Star Wars Radio

more information: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Empire_Strikes_Back_(book-and-record)
 

a flick through the actual book 13 minute video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZDwLnMXg4k

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#1543829
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Ewoks The Battle For Endor Read-Along Story Book and Cassette - from 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2FKb5UY2Tc - 13 minute video, at Star Wars Radio

more information: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ewoks:The_Battle_for_Endor(book-and-record)
 

a flick through the actual book 13 minute video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhOEwZnZWY