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how long does it take to train a jedi?

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hey guys i am just curious to know how this works. in the old republic it took a life took like 10 - 15 years to train a jedi then another 10-15 years if your good to become a master. In the OT luke goes from nothing to being able to take on the choosen one and pali(who yoda couldnt beat) in a matter of years. i personally find the PT time frame alot easier to believe just because it takes years in real life to learn things liek combat skills, and mental disipline. what you guys think. the EU also follows the same time frame of the PT its only in the OT that jedi are trained so quickly. i have got my theory about it i jsut want to see what people say first.
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Luke was not really fully trained, and also he was already strong with the force that he inherited from his father. That's the main reason he did not train for that many years. That and they kind of had to sacrifice due to the war going on. And in the OT Luke was the only Jedi trained....

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and please remember he didn't beat Palp, he was able to turn his father and his father caught Palp off guard and threw him down the shaft. But yeah I always questioned the length of time it takes to train a Jedi. I also question the age at which your young enought to start the training. Anakin was about ten in Ep I and the council said he was too old yet Yoda was able to train Luke when he was alot older.


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But those were completely different circumstances and Yoda was pretty desperate.
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Luke was not really fully trained, and also he was already strong with the force that he inherited from his father. That's the main reason he did not train for that many years. That and they kind of had to sacrifice due to the war going on. And in the OT Luke was the only Jedi trained....


anakin was the choosen one and it still took him 12 years


my whole idea behind it was the yoda skipped the long jedi training and taught luke 2 two things to be a jedi. He taught him how to fight, and taught him about hte darkside. luke didnt get all of the morals behind hte force, and the history. known of the logic training and so on. i think yoda left luke to figure all that out himself.


and to warbler, he still beat anakin in the duel, which is really impressive considering that asides from mace obiwan and yoda i dont think any jedi could have beat him. also obiwan beating him was anakins own stupidity. i dont think obiwan could have ever beaten vader. so its really impressive that a 2 year old jedi with only maybe at most couple months of direct training from a jedi master could have done what he did.
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As TheSessler already mentioned, it's not like they had a lot of options. And I'm sure Yoda taught him much more than that. He taught him how to control himself most importantly, how to channel himself into using the force in a productive way.

And I'm sure Anakin was "fully" trained before 12 years was up. He fell because he was far too weak. Luke had less training but was stronger and managed to overcome the darkside of the force. Did you miss the whole point of the movies? (j/k )

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I imagine the EU addresses this when it comes to Luke training others to become Jedi, though I would not thought the training would be as long as it was for Jedi in the Prequel Trilogy.

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There has been a great dispute around how much time Luke spent in Dagobah. I've heard "two days", and I've heard "one year". Let's asume it took a whole year for Solo and Leia to get out of Hoth, travel through asteroids, escape from the empire and go to where Lando is, therefore Luke trained for a full year. Luke had a very specific training, and most of it was probably offscreen (like the lightsaber one, I suppose he fought Yoda?).
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I'll even add that Luke, IMHO, was a much superior Jedi candidate than Lucas ever portrayed Anakin to be. How?

1) Luke naturally took to the lightsaber and with only a few verbal cues from Obi-Wan was able to 'see' using the living Force.

2) Prior to his introduction into the 'larger world' of the Force, Luke was a whiny brat. The more he used the Force the less and less whiny he got. (again think PT Anakin here)

3) Luke, with no 'canon' evidence that Obi-Wan continued to 'train' him after the events of ANH, trained HIMSELF enough to not only seem wiser by the start of ESB but also to be able to use the Force to move objects (in the Wampa lair).

4) That said, Yoda- despite his reluctance at first to want to train Luke- already had a good starting point with what Luke had already learned on his own.

5) Again with no 'canon' evidence (discounting SOTE which I have forgotten what little I knew about it) to the contrary, it would *appear* Luke continued his own training after the events of ESB. By the start of ROTJ he was a bad-mamma-jamma and after the Jabba affair he went *back* to Yoda to 'complete his training' Yoda tells Luke "No more training do you require. Already know you that which you need." Again, IMHO, by watching the PT I somehow doubt Anakin could have done that.

So basically what I'm saying is that Luke was an aberration but in a good way. In fact I'd even go as far to say that he... raised in more ways than one as the son of a planet of two suns... may be (by actions and not by Lucas' words) the closest to a 'chosen one' that the SW series had to offer.

As for 'old school' Jedi training... good question. The horrific editing and pacing of the PT coupled with the lack of revelation to any of the 'behind-the-scenes' Jedi training gave no clue as to the time period of standard training. Perhaps the Jedi just sit around in a circle and muse about the Force until experience walks in and smacks them in the face.
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I have to admit that that's the one thing that bugs me about Empire (except wondering why Chewie was allowed to take Threepio into the cell with him) is the timeframe. It doesn't seem like it would take Han and the others very long to do what they did (even if Vader was so intent on capturing them, I don't know if he'd spend a whole year just sending out TIE bombers around the area), but Luke would have had to have spent more than two days on Dagobah. I have to compromise and say that it was probably several weeks, the big time gap occurring in between "That is why you fail" and "I saw a city in the clouds." That was also about the time the Falcon started its journey to Bespin, and we don't know how long that took. And it was in between those two incidents that Luke changed from questioning Yoda and failing everything to becoming seemingly more mature (even though he dropped Artoo).

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Well, their hyperdrive was knocked out, so it might have taken them a while to reach Bespin, as Han did say, "It's pretty far."

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yeah, the time issue in ESB is tricky--for me, fudging it to a few weeks works. luckily, i love that movie so i'm willing to cut it plenty of breaks.

i personally think yoda and obi-wan intentionally compacted and reduced the level of training for Luke in reponse to what they probably saw as the decay of the jedi order thanks to hubris and arrogance. i like to think they thought that training Luke in a more vague and general way would contribute to his appreciation and awe toward the Force and his powers, as opposed to the Jedi of the past, who knew the Force so well and studied so much that they almost took it for granted.
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yes i agree. and you guys kinda stated my point yoda and obiwan only taugh luke what he need to face the emperor. known of the other stuff. i am mostly the logic and what is right and wrong doctorine, notice how whenever luke asks how do i knwo the dark side, yoda says you will feel it. i often think that anakins failed training and his arrogance was caused by the jedi temple and all of the strick teachings he had.
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yeah that was mean, sry man. i jsut hate it when people just strait make fun of something without providing reasons or anything.