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What kind of orphans, the orphans with bees in their mouth, and when they cry, they shoot bees at you?

Damn Sorry to her that.    A great comedian.   Rest In Peace,  Mr. Winters. 

TV's Frink said:

I was reading an AP story about this and apparently in the UK it's much more common/accepted to bash hated political figures when they die.

Before you bother to say that doesn't make it right, here's a taco.

well, I guess I don't understand the UK.

TheBoost said:

I think that being dead is not a magical get out of jail free card for someone's actions in life.

Its called having respect for the dead, and their mourning families.   I never said dying  was a magical get out of jail free card.   I just don't think someone's death should looked on as an opportunity to bash that someone.   The people that want to bash her could do so for her whole life, will be able to do so for years to come.   Why the need to bash at the time she dies and while her family is in mourning?  Can't you wait a couple months?  

TheBoost said:

Bingowings said:

I seem to remember when Bin Laden was reported dead someone put a picture of the Statue of Liberty holding his bloody head up.

I don't know much about Thatcher, but I doubt she was a monster like Bin Laden.    She was not the leader of a terrorist group that murdered countless innocent people, including the 3000 people that died on 911.

Oh, so she was a monster after all.

*bum-tish*

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

I was reading an AP story about this and apparently in the UK it's much more common/accepted to bash hated political figures when they die.

Before you bother to say that doesn't make it right, here's a taco.

well, I guess I don't understand the UK.

Taco is an American.

I would have used the scene from Its A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World where he destroyed the gas station. 

xhonzi said:

Thatcher was a conservative.

No she wasn't.

She was a revolutionary free market corporatist.

Conservatives strive to conserve, she turned everything on it's head and her family are all insane greedy nutcases who don't read this forum so who sanely cares what they think about what anyone posts here?

xhonzi said:

Thatcher was a conservative.

Your point is? 

I may disagree with conservatives a lot, but I still don't put them in the category as Bin Laden.

Bin Laden was never directly linked to 9/11.

Thatcher took pride in making people unemployed and homeless and taxing the poor the same as the rich.

The celebrations of her death will be nothing compared to the War Criminal Blair.

Bingowings said:

Bin Laden was never directly linked to 9/11.

Yeah, and the moon landing was a hoax.

TV's Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Bin Laden was never directly linked to 9/11.

Yeah, and the moon landing was a hoax.

No it wasn't but Bin Laden was never directly linked to 9/11.

Indirectly he made no secret of wanting to target American interests but directly... the guy actually stated on video tape that he didn't do it (something which is later contradicted by other tapes that look nothing like him).

That's not evidence of anything but if the US had defined a nation as it's enemy and successfully hit it like that the president would be boasting about it.

Thatcher on the other hand boasted about everything she did.

She did more damage to these islands than Hitler did.

Hitler galvanised Britain against him.

Thatcher divided Britain like nobody before her.

TV's Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Bin Laden was never directly linked to 9/11.

Now I remember why I put him on ignore. 

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

I see that nobody has posted about Thatcher, so i will.....

I find that very disrespectful.   How would you like it if a family member of yours died and people posted that about him/her. 

How about giving her friends and a family a time to mourn before people bash on her.     And why is her death a time to bash her?    One can bash her anytime one likes, why pick the time that she dies?

Why should i worry about her family?

that's a very selfish attitude.  Like I said, I guess I just don't get the UK.  

I couldn't stand George W. Bush.   But if/when he dies (assuming I outlive him),  I am not going to celebrate his death. 

adywan said:

Her daughter's a racist and her son is an arms dealer.

don't know much about them.    What about the rest of her family?   Cousins?  Aunts? Uncles?  Grandchildren?   Nephews?   Nieces?   Are they all evil? 

adywan said:

 yet they suddenly claim that the country can afford to pay for this bitches funeral at a cost of anywhere between 10 and 40 million. Why do we tax payers have to pay for this when her family are millionaires and she has a lot of money stashed away in tax havens?

I suppose you can make an excellent argument for why the family should pay for the funeral themselves.   But it is not unusual for the government to pay for the funeral of someone who was its leader.    I am sure my government always pays for the funerals of ex-Presidents. 

yeah.  sorry.  

lets move the thatcher discussion to the political thread.

SilverWook said:

Thatcherism was the cause of the Hatfield rail crash of 2000.

As much as I'm a fan of being quoted out of context by people who insist that they are ignoring me, it's not anti-American to say unless you were there you wouldn't get it.

When I was little, beggers were something you found in the Bible or in Dickens not something you found on the streets of almost every town and city.

When we went to school trips it was the most immediately shocking aspect of the trip to see these 'mythical' beings. From 1979 onwards they started appearing everywhere as the Thatcher sold off the housing that would have put a roof over their heads and closed down the industries that would have given them a job.

She took advantage of the greed of some of the trade union barons and used it as excuse to sell off the fabric of British society and took delight at victimising the people who never vote for her.

She turned a country that made things into a call centre and then moved the call centre to India.

When she came to power unemployment had risen to the then astonishing level of 5% at the peak of her reign it was 12%.

It's not a derailment to fix the false image that people have the woman. When you remember the dead you are doing a disservice to the good by giving glowing praise to evil people just because they aren't alive any more.

As for her grandchildren they are now living in America and preaching her mantra so stuff them too.

I was considering a mashup between that and her rendition of the dead parrot sketch.

When she was given that sketch to 'parrot' in conference she didn't find it funny, she didn't understand it and when she was shown the original version she asked if Mr Python was a Conservative (the sketch was picked because Cleese was a famous Liberal/SDP Alliance supporter and the new logo was theirs).

My last words on the subject here (a thread I've fed with regular positive memories of nice people).

Winston Churchill got 45mins of eulogies in regular parliamentary time when he died, the government recalled Parliament at cost to the national purse (usually only done at a time of national emergency like war) to talk for seven hours over Thatcher.

SilverWook said:

Start a new thread for it then?

I suggested taking the Thatcher discussion to the political thread.    Or was Bingo talking about something else?