Chewy72 said:
I will take a movie like Rocky, where he loses at the end, any day of the week over some action adventure movie that you know what is going to happen the minute the movie starts.
Like Star Wars or Terminator?
Anyway, it is ironic that we are talking about Terminator here, one of the few movies series that actually had continuity holes long before its first was ever even written. From the second movie, you had to know John would survive just as much as you know he will survive in TSCC. Same thing for T3.
And the whole thing about prequels not being able to have any plot twists without messing up existing continuity (such as Leia's recollection of her mother. Though I fail to see Padme's lame death being anything like a plot twist, slap in the face maybe, but definitely not a plot twist), I do not see to be true at all, and actually coming from a very limited story telling perspective.
The SW prequels could have been about absolutely anything, we knew relatively little about the story, just a few little fragments, as long the story kept just a few elements to it (Anakin and Obi-Wan being good friends and serving together in the clone wars, Anakin having conceiving twins, Anakin eventually being seduced by the Darkside and becoming Darth Vader, and Yoda surviving, the two trilogies didn't have to have very much in common at all, or mess up each other continuity in any way. Ol' George is the one who decided that everything had to be closely connected and that the universe had to be only slightly larger than my own living room. Plenty of other characters could have been introduced and allowed to live or die. Without disturbing continuity, it could have been discovered that several more Jedi other than Obi and Yoda were living as hermits on various other planets, or that there really was a duel between an apprentice of Obi-Wan who fell to the darkside and Anakin, only instead of being killed by him as Obi-Wan tell Luke, Anakin could have killed him in what began his fall to the darkside, in this way Obi-Wan could have personally felt that his other pupil really was the murderer of his close friend.
It is a sorry cop out to make excuses for the Star Wars prequels, or any other prequel, by saying that there is no way they could be good because you know what will happen. The SW PT had PLENTY of room for surprises, but in the end the only surprising thing was how each episode managed to be worse than the last.
Back to TSCC, as was seen in last weeks episode, and perhaps show even more tonight (hopefully), there is really no way to predict the direction this thing will take, it has plenty of room for surprises. Though in my opinion surprises in film and TV show are usually cheap gimmicks, especially modernly. M. Night R... however you spell his last name, is a perfect example of this. I feel cheated everytime I see one of his movies, sure I didn't know what was going to happen in the end, but the end ends being so lame and so far out there, of course nobody is going to guess the ending.