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DylanB18 said:

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It has only been four days since your initial request mate. On here it can take anything from days through to weeks, or even months, before you can get a reply or link - a little patience, thank you. 👍

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Hi Hal, here’s my next review.

I absolutely loved this edit. AOTC is probably my second-least favourite SW film (TPM being my least favourite), as it’s just so painful to watch. But this edit simply transforms the film, and for the first time in my life, I got genuine, even considerable enjoyment out of watching Episode 2.

I’ll start with the biggest part: the romance plot. This was the biggest improvement of The Approaching Storm for me; where this romance was previously fatal levels of cringe, it now comes across as genuinely quite endearing. The largest factor to this is of course the way you re-arranged the scenes, giving the whole romance a far more belivable and compelling development. Even the cringey-but-inescapable scenes like the tick-cow ride and the floating pear dinner come across as much less painful than before because they flow much better, they feel more believable. Moving the kiss to the end of the romance arc, and removing the oh-so-infamous sand monologue, raised the sub-plot as a whole by a considerable amount. I will say that the musical transition out of the kiss scene to Obi leaving Kamino felt quite abrupt, but that’s pretty much my only problem. Although, I can’t help but notice that after the kiss at sunset, the next time we see the two is in their pyjamas the next morning…

My next favourite part was Anakin’s improved characterisation. It’s incredible the impact a few removed lines and some re-arranged scenes can have, but Anakin comes across so much more mature in TAS. I particularly loved his trimmed conversation with Padme (“Master Obi-Wan manages not to see it.” “All mentors have a way of seeing more of our flaws than we would like. It’s the only way we grow.” “I know.” This just flows soooo much better, and it’s such a simple change at that) and the now wordless embrace before Anakin leaves to find his mother. It says so much more about their growing relationship, and is more emotional.

The deleted scenes sprinkled throughout were all great, particularly Padme’s Senate address, which combined with the brilliant new opening crawl (despite how many times I’ve seen AOTC I still can’t remember a single part of the crawl, but this one jumped off the screen) was a very efficient and effective opening. Padme’s family was a far superior scene to the convo with the Queen (that scene always bugged me because you can see a very clearly contemporary building right outside the Queen’s window). The brief conversation with Anakin, Padme and Dooku raised one very interesting line: “The Republic cannot be fixed.” I felt that one line adds a whole new element to the political plot of the PT; though the Separatist movement is a smokescreen for the Sith, that line is actually still completely true. Food for thought. The scene between Obi-Wan and Windu on the landing platform did come across as quite wooden, hence why it was probably excised, but it’s much better story- and character-wise than the Jedi Temple convo with Obi, Windu and Yoda.

There are too many other things I loved about this edit to list here (the more focussed third act, the clever way you cut the factory set piece to have Anakin free Padme, less grating presence of Boba, generally improved action throughout), and I can only really think of a handful of small problems: the intercut nature of the romance plot with Obi’s investigation could feel like a bit too much of a juxtaposition (though this’ll likely fade with future watches), the aforementioned abrupt musical transition out of the kiss, and I felt that the cuts to get around Yoda v Dooku were a bit (unavoidably) clunky. In short, I think this is a miracle of an edit, a permanent replacement of AOTC. Awesome work!

I hope I’m not laying it on too thick here, I just really loved this edit.

“I don’t believe it.”

“That is why you Yoda.”
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Thanks for those thoughts, as well as in the COD thread so far. I feel like I was really able to do with the prequels what I set out to do: implement what prior editors have done in a well-executed whole package that could serve as a genuine replacement for those who want to use it that way. (With LOE taking up a noteworthy ‘minority voice’ in the lineage of fan editing that movie.) Glad to hear you enjoyed these two!

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DrVibble said:

Hi Hal, here’s my next review.

I absolutely loved this edit. AOTC is probably my second-least favourite SW film (TPM being my least favourite), as it’s just so painful to watch. But this edit simply transforms the film, and for the first time in my life, I got genuine, even considerable enjoyment out of watching Episode 2.

I’ll start with the biggest part: the romance plot. This was the biggest improvement of The Approaching Storm for me; where this romance was previously fatal levels of cringe, it now comes across as genuinely quite endearing. The largest factor to this is of course the way you re-arranged the scenes, giving the whole romance a far more belivable and compelling development. Even the cringey-but-inescapable scenes like the tick-cow ride and the floating pear dinner come across as much less painful than before because they flow much better, they feel more believable. Moving the kiss to the end of the romance arc, and removing the oh-so-infamous sand monologue, raised the sub-plot as a whole by a considerable amount. I will say that the musical transition out of the kiss scene to Obi leaving Kamino felt quite abrupt, but that’s pretty much my only problem. Although, I can’t help but notice that after the kiss at sunset, the next time we see the two is in their pyjamas the next morning…

My next favourite part was Anakin’s improved characterisation. It’s incredible the impact a few removed lines and some re-arranged scenes can have, but Anakin comes across so much more mature in TAS. I particularly loved his trimmed conversation with Padme (“Master Obi-Wan manages not to see it.” “All mentors have a way of seeing more of our flaws than we would like. It’s the only way we grow.” “I know.” This just flows soooo much better, and it’s such a simple change at that) and the now wordless embrace before Anakin leaves to find his mother. It says so much more about their growing relationship, and is more emotional.

The deleted scenes sprinkled throughout were all great, particularly Padme’s Senate address, which combined with the brilliant new opening crawl (despite how many times I’ve seen AOTC I still can’t remember a single part of the crawl, but this one jumped off the screen) was a very efficient and effective opening. Padme’s family was a far superior scene to the convo with the Queen (that scene always bugged me because you can see a very clearly contemporary building right outside the Queen’s window). The brief conversation with Anakin, Padme and Dooku raised one very interesting line: “The Republic cannot be fixed.” I felt that one line adds a whole new element to the political plot of the PT; though the Separatist movement is a smokescreen for the Sith, that line is actually still completely true. Food for thought. The scene between Obi-Wan and Windu on the landing platform did come across as quite wooden, hence why it was probably excised, but it’s much better story- and character-wise than the Jedi Temple convo with Obi, Windu and Yoda.

There are too many other things I loved about this edit to list here (the more focussed third act, the clever way you cut the factory set piece to have Anakin free Padme, less grating presence of Boba, generally improved action throughout), and I can only really think of a handful of small problems: the intercut nature of the romance plot with Obi’s investigation could feel like a bit too much of a juxtaposition (though this’ll likely fade with future watches), the aforementioned abrupt musical transition out of the kiss, and I felt that the cuts to get around Yoda v Dooku were a bit (unavoidably) clunky. In short, I think this is a miracle of an edit, a permanent replacement of AOTC. Awesome work!

I hope I’m not laying it on too thick here, I just really loved this edit.

+1 from me DrVibble and beautifully put. I think anyone new or who hasn’t yet seen Hal’s amazing prequel trilogy edits should give them a viewing if or when they have chance. They are my go to versions of the prequels.

Hal has also done some amazing edits of the O/T and S/T that are also with checking out, you won’t be disappointed believe me.

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DrVibble said:

Hi Hal, here’s my next review.

I absolutely loved this edit. AOTC is probably my second-least favourite SW film (TPM being my least favourite), as it’s just so painful to watch. But this edit simply transforms the film, and for the first time in my life, I got genuine, even considerable enjoyment out of watching Episode 2.

I’ll start with the biggest part: the romance plot. This was the biggest improvement of The Approaching Storm for me; where this romance was previously fatal levels of cringe, it now comes across as genuinely quite endearing. The largest factor to this is of course the way you re-arranged the scenes, giving the whole romance a far more belivable and compelling development. Even the cringey-but-inescapable scenes like the tick-cow ride and the floating pear dinner come across as much less painful than before because they flow much better, they feel more believable. Moving the kiss to the end of the romance arc, and removing the oh-so-infamous sand monologue, raised the sub-plot as a whole by a considerable amount. I will say that the musical transition out of the kiss scene to Obi leaving Kamino felt quite abrupt, but that’s pretty much my only problem. Although, I can’t help but notice that after the kiss at sunset, the next time we see the two is in their pyjamas the next morning…

My next favourite part was Anakin’s improved characterisation. It’s incredible the impact a few removed lines and some re-arranged scenes can have, but Anakin comes across so much more mature in TAS. I particularly loved his trimmed conversation with Padme (“Master Obi-Wan manages not to see it.” “All mentors have a way of seeing more of our flaws than we would like. It’s the only way we grow.” “I know.” This just flows soooo much better, and it’s such a simple change at that) and the now wordless embrace before Anakin leaves to find his mother. It says so much more about their growing relationship, and is more emotional.

The deleted scenes sprinkled throughout were all great, particularly Padme’s Senate address, which combined with the brilliant new opening crawl (despite how many times I’ve seen AOTC I still can’t remember a single part of the crawl, but this one jumped off the screen) was a very efficient and effective opening. Padme’s family was a far superior scene to the convo with the Queen (that scene always bugged me because you can see a very clearly contemporary building right outside the Queen’s window). The brief conversation with Anakin, Padme and Dooku raised one very interesting line: “The Republic cannot be fixed.” I felt that one line adds a whole new element to the political plot of the PT; though the Separatist movement is a smokescreen for the Sith, that line is actually still completely true. Food for thought. The scene between Obi-Wan and Windu on the landing platform did come across as quite wooden, hence why it was probably excised, but it’s much better story- and character-wise than the Jedi Temple convo with Obi, Windu and Yoda.

There are too many other things I loved about this edit to list here (the more focussed third act, the clever way you cut the factory set piece to have Anakin free Padme, less grating presence of Boba, generally improved action throughout), and I can only really think of a handful of small problems: the intercut nature of the romance plot with Obi’s investigation could feel like a bit too much of a juxtaposition (though this’ll likely fade with future watches), the aforementioned abrupt musical transition out of the kiss, and I felt that the cuts to get around Yoda v Dooku were a bit (unavoidably) clunky. In short, I think this is a miracle of an edit, a permanent replacement of AOTC. Awesome work!

I hope I’m not laying it on too thick here, I just really loved this edit.

I think the abrupt cut from the kiss is a limitation of the original source, where Padme cuts their kiss short out of regret. I think the transition could be smoothed by inserting a different shot of the lake area at “sunset” after the kiss, letting the audience use their imagination and giving time for the music to linger before the transition, but I’m sure Hal doesn’t want to go back to these edits again (and there might not be a good shot to use/reuse).

As for editing the movie to imply they slept together, I believe that originates all the way back to the original Episode II edit, “Attack of the Edit” by The Phantom Editor. And there’s a good reason people keep editing it like that: it sells the forbidden romance so much better than the theatrical, because they’re actually having a forbidden romance instead of just discussing whether or not they should have one.

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I sat down to see if I could possibly get that transition to sound any better, since I agree it’s probably the worst out of the whole fan edit. The trouble is I can’t really replace the music since there is subtle foley that would be very hard to replace.

Here’s a fresh attempt at it. I think it’s fundamentally the same, though maybe a little smoother as I let the outgoing music stay strong for longer. If this feels like an improvement, I could reissue the edit with just the audio track being replaced. It is utterly beyond my means to reissue any of the prequel edits with any visual changes anymore.

Clip (audio only): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ocaukPMLP6gezpGWDscqgtS14yNyy6_J/view?usp=sharing

Let me know what you think.

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Hal, I saw this edit a few years ago and felt it really improved AOTC.

I’ve heard you have edits for all the films in both the prequel and the sequel trilogy…

Would it be possible to message me links to all 6? I’d love to work my way through your versions.

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Matt.F said:

Hal, I saw this edit a few years ago and felt it really improved AOTC.

I’ve heard you have edits for all the films in both the prequel and the sequel trilogy…

Would it be possible to message me links to all 6? I’d love to work my way through your versions.

Sending PM.

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Hal 9000 said:

I sat down to see if I could possibly get that transition to sound any better, since I agree it’s probably the worst out of the whole fan edit. The trouble is I can’t really replace the music since there is subtle foley that would be very hard to replace.

Here’s a fresh attempt at it. I think it’s fundamentally the same, though maybe a little smoother as I let the outgoing music stay strong for longer. If this feels like an improvement, I could reissue the edit with just the audio track being replaced. It is utterly beyond my means to reissue any of the prequel edits with any visual changes anymore.

Clip (audio only): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ocaukPMLP6gezpGWDscqgtS14yNyy6_J/view?usp=sharing

Let me know what you think.

Forgive the bump but I wanted to make sure people saw this recent post since most of this thread is people asking for links, including the last couple.

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Hm, it’s pretty subtle, but I do think it’s an improvement. Of course, because it is subtle, don’t feel like you need to go too out of your way if implementing it proves difficult. The movie’s still great as is!

BTW, sorry if, between this and the TROS thread, I tend to be too critical without having much to offer. I don’t intend it, but I’ve noticed lately that I have a habit of only chiming in on this site to say “I’m not sure about that idea/execution.” You’ve done incredible work on all of your edits, as have the others here who have offered their talents.

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Hal 9000 said:

Hal 9000 said:

I sat down to see if I could possibly get that transition to sound any better, since I agree it’s probably the worst out of the whole fan edit. The trouble is I can’t really replace the music since there is subtle foley that would be very hard to replace.

Here’s a fresh attempt at it. I think it’s fundamentally the same, though maybe a little smoother as I let the outgoing music stay strong for longer. If this feels like an improvement, I could reissue the edit with just the audio track being replaced. It is utterly beyond my means to reissue any of the prequel edits with any visual changes anymore.

Clip (audio only): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ocaukPMLP6gezpGWDscqgtS14yNyy6_J/view?usp=sharing

Let me know what you think.

Forgive the bump but I wanted to make sure people saw this recent post since most of this thread is people asking for links, including the last couple.

It sounds good to me but I didn’t do an A/B test with the current version.

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I think it’s a worthwhile improvement. That’s the only bit I can think of in your edits that felt off to me since the music fades abruptly. Letting it linger on makes the transition a lot smoother.

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TAS V7 has been reissued with only this audio tweak having been changed. Going up now to the usual places.

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I’m so late to this but I’ve just recently discovered SW fanedits and this seems amazing for a series rewatch. Can I get a link?

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I’m also late to this and discovered the first yesterday, it is amazing, could I also get a link to the drive? Keep up the awesome work 😃

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Could I get a link as well?

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Yes.

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Hi Hal, can you PM a link to all your edits? Thanks in advance.

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Yes

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Hello there, I’ve been very intrigued by the idea of your prequel edits and would love the 1080p copy of The Approaching Storm. AOTC was always my least favorite of the prequels and so I’ve been very curious about how this would be and if it’s not too much trouble maybe a link to all your edits because seriously, you do some amazing work.