Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread — SPOILERS — Page 22

Keep in mind that recouping the investment isn’t what they want. In fact, I bet recouping the investment was never even a concern. It’s about how fast they can recoup it and how much of a profit it ultimately churns out in the long run once they do. If it takes over six years to recoup the investment and a film based on arguably the most likable character in the franchise is a box office bomb that’s potentially indicative of low enthusiasm for stand-alone films and perhaps the series in general, then the suits at Disney are not going to be happy about just recouping the investment. They want decades worth of Marvel-type success, three really successful films then a bomb and who knows what next. I’d be nervous if I were Kathleen Kennedy. Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

moviefreakedmind said:

Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

It’s not a loss though. It just didn’t meet projections. Maybe they needed to rethink their projections.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

It’s not a loss though. It just didn’t meet projections. Maybe they needed to rethink their projections.

If they spent 500 million on it then that is a loss.

I don’t understand why so many people here are so eager to paint Solo as if it isn’t a box office failure. It’s not like any of you have a personal stake in it.

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

It’s not a loss though. It just didn’t meet projections. Maybe they needed to rethink their projections.

If they spent 500 million on it then that is a loss.

I don’t understand why so many people here are so eager to paint Solo as if it isn’t a box office failure. It’s not like any of you have a personal stake in it.

There are?

A box office failure is usually when a film doesn’t make it’s money back, yes? Well, we don’t know what the film cost, do we? (do we?) I don’t know where the ‘$500m’ figure comes from I see bandied around - a guess? (someone replicated the cost of Rogue One and added extra on for the re-shoots, maybe?)

Solo has certainly under-performed - in context it could be said it has flopped in comparison to the other recent releases - yet did anyone expect it get near the ST figures - or even R1? I imagine the big-wigs will be looking into it and trying to address it, should they feel the need?

Personally, I don’t care too much - it’s not like Disney is going to pull the plug on future Star Wars films after 1 under-performing film (despite many articles stating it would) after the 4 released so far - so we’ll still be very likely getting more SW content in the future (which is something I’d like to see).

According to this website, TFA and RO cost 245 and 200 million respectively.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/311356/star-wars-production-costs-box-office-revenue/

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

It’s not a loss though. It just didn’t meet projections. Maybe they needed to rethink their projections.

If they spent 500 million on it then that is a loss.

I don’t understand why so many people here are so eager to paint Solo as if it isn’t a box office failure. It’s not like any of you have a personal stake in it.

There are?

A box office failure is usually when a film doesn’t make it’s money back, yes? Well, we don’t know what the film cost, do we? (do we?) I don’t know where the ‘$500m’ figure comes from I see bandied around - a guess? (someone replicated the cost of Rogue One and added extra on for the re-shoots, maybe?)

Solo has certainly under-performed - in context it could be said it has flopped in comparison to the other recent releases - yet did anyone expect it get near the ST figures - or even R1? I imagine the big-wigs will be looking into it and trying to address it, should they feel the need?

Personally, I don’t care too much - it’s not like Disney is going to pull the plug on future Star Wars films after 1 under-performing film (despite many articles stating it would) after the 4 released so far - so we’ll still be very likely getting more SW content in the future (which is something I’d like to see).

It’s because marketing isn’t figured into the production budget and typically costs just as much. A film with a 275 million dollar budget making less than 400 million dollars globally is a flop. These aren’t just my standards for a flop, this is pretty widely accepted. Even if they did somehow make money on that, ~250 million dollars spent in order to get a 100 million dollar profit isn’t a good investment when you consider how much other less expensive movies make. And I never said they were pulling the plug on Star Wars, I just said that the corporate suits are probably pissed off or nervous, which they always are, so I don’t see why that’s a contested issue either.

TV’s Frink said:

I’m no more eager than you or Jay are (especially you) but ok.

I don’t know what this means. I’m not eager for anything other than a giant meteor destroying this planet, so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I wasn’t talking even about you anyway, unless of course you’re someone who is claiming that Solo wasn’t a box office failure, but I definitely didn’t have you in mind when I wrote that.

moviefreakedmind said:

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Then again, I’d be nervous if any film I produced had a six-figure loss.

It’s not a loss though. It just didn’t meet projections. Maybe they needed to rethink their projections.

If they spent 500 million on it then that is a loss.

I don’t understand why so many people here are so eager to paint Solo as if it isn’t a box office failure. It’s not like any of you have a personal stake in it.

There are?

A box office failure is usually when a film doesn’t make it’s money back, yes? Well, we don’t know what the film cost, do we? (do we?) I don’t know where the ‘$500m’ figure comes from I see bandied around - a guess? (someone replicated the cost of Rogue One and added extra on for the re-shoots, maybe?)

Solo has certainly under-performed - in context it could be said it has flopped in comparison to the other recent releases - yet did anyone expect it get near the ST figures - or even R1? I imagine the big-wigs will be looking into it and trying to address it, should they feel the need?

Personally, I don’t care too much - it’s not like Disney is going to pull the plug on future Star Wars films after 1 under-performing film (despite many articles stating it would) after the 4 released so far - so we’ll still be very likely getting more SW content in the future (which is something I’d like to see).

It’s because marketing isn’t figured into the production budget and typically costs just as much. A film with a 275 million dollar budget making less than 400 million dollars globally is a flop. These aren’t just my standards for a flop, this is pretty widely accepted. Even if they did somehow make money on that, ~250 million dollars spent in order to get a 100 million dollar profit isn’t a good investment when you consider how much other less expensive movies make. And I never said they were pulling the plug on Star Wars, I just said that the corporate suits are probably pissed off or nervous, which they always are, so I don’t see why that’s a contested issue either.

Aye, I get that - yet we don’t know the actual figures involved (let alone the complications to the budget given the re-shoots). For instance, did Solo have the same budget as Rogue One? I’d find it surprising if it did (given the level and amount of CGI shots and also promotion/publicity in R1 - as to compared to Solo), which seemed to be on a smaller scale - to me, anyway.

I know you never said they ‘were pulling the plug on Star Wars’ either mate, and I’m not contesting the issue - just stating the future of Star Wars is not at threat because one of the four releases so far has under-performed at the box office.

Though am still not sure there actually are ‘so many people here are so eager to paint Solo as if it isn’t a box office failure’ on here? Yet even if there were, it wouldn’t be that surprising to see fans try and find the brighter side/outlook/aspect of things.

I agree that the future of Star Wars isn’t at risk, I just wouldn’t be surprised if the future of some people at Lucasfilm might be at risk. I said people were eager to paint Solo as not a failure because people are responding to me saying that it didn’t lose money or that it wasn’t a box office failure.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’m no more eager than you or Jay are (especially you) but ok.

I don’t know what this means. I’m not eager for anything other than a giant meteor destroying this planet, so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I wasn’t talking even about you anyway, unless of course you’re someone who is claiming that Solo wasn’t a box office failure, but I definitely didn’t have you in mind when I wrote that.

Well you said “so many people” so maybe if you clarified who you were talking about?

JEDIT: Eh don’t bother. Just seeing a lot of this lately.

I didn’t think it was offensive enough of a claim to require such clarification. It’s not like I said that “so many people” were doing something really horrible. I just have seen many people here try and claim that Solo wasn’t a box office failure and I don’t understand why anyone would claim that. The real take away here is that I simply can’t figure out human behavior and every time I attempt to it just turns into a frustrating experience so I need to stop.

I have heard that the Millennium Falcon in Solo A Star Wars story was inspired by Ralph Mcquarrie designs , I have seen his production paintings of Docking Bay 94 but does anyone know of others that look like the one in this movie ?

The gun turret and the dish are similar, yes.

does anyone have a link to any pics besides the production paintings I mentioned ?