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i just wonder if the HBO early cable showing of star wars is the same as the '82 laserdisc, since it has that squeezed macrobinocular shot in it
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Originally posted by: battlewarsi just wonder if the HBO early cable showing of star wars is the same as the '82 laserdisc, since it has that squeezed macrobinocular shot in it


With the information given and having seen my 1988 Fullscreen alongside later Fullscreen versions, this is definately a different version, possibly the "missing" HBO version. If so it is very possible that your '82 LD is the same.

It would be good to compare our two versions side by side to see if they are the same..............

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i am well aware of the pan and scan versions after the '82 laserdisc and i can tell you without a fact it is definitely a different pan and scan version different from all the other ones. i also think its quite possibly the clearest i have seen ANH, you can see quit a bit of detail that is obscured even in the 2004 dvd version, too bad its sped up, its kinda like watching star wars on speed
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The "sped up" versions are what us Brits have always had to put up with apart from the 1991 Widescreen time-stretched version.

This 1982 LD may have to be my next purchase in this project along with the first Empire - both of which are time compressed and "sped up".

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Things are moving quickly on this and we now have a plan of attack.

For more info on this, check out the project webpage.

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I bought a stack of LD's last week, and didn't believe what I saw was in there: the UK P&S trilogy! These are THE earliest releases: the PAL equivalents to the NTSC "first issue collection" listed on russ15's project webpage ('82, '84 and '86 respectively). Battlewars, you are right on the money with your comment of these being the clearest representations of the films (though you're talking about the NTSC versions, but they're probably identical apart from difference in resolution and framerate). They rival the official (widescreen) DVD's in detail, but more noticeably they are much brighter, and a lot of stuff can be seen in area's which are black on the DVD's. Although it's a P&S set, and a slight bit of LD rot is present, I may even prefer these to the French THX discs... having a widescreen TV. They just look right: closer to the way I remember them.
The Episode IV disc also is the disc I caused some fuss about a while back, claiming it to be widescreen: a guy told me that, but it turned out to be a mistake. Although the first 3 minutes actually are in anamorphic widescreen, due to the original panoramic shot being squeezed onto a 4:3 display, without black bars on top and bottom

I'll be capturing and releasing this set, details coming up.

EDIT: If there's any interest I can capture a piece with my DVD recorder and upload it as sort of a teaser (no that's not how I will be doing the final capture).

That's no moon. It's a LaserDisc.

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This sounds very interesting.............

The 80's UK PAL VHS Pan and Scan is totally different to the later THX Pan and Scan releases.

I suspect that the UK PAL LaserDisc may follow the same pattern.

Would you like these (and any others you might have) adding to the project page??

I am not aware of any UK PAL transfers and never even thought about doing such a thing so they would make a very interesting addition

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Intensive research lasting all of about a minute has told me that over here in the UK we got the 82, 84 and 86 Pan and Scan release followed by the 97 Special Edition release. 6 discs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congtatulations Grinder, you have just landed yourself 50% of the UK Star Wars collection.

I am looking forward even more now to seeing these captured.

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thanks grinder i'm glad im not alone in thinking this version had the most detail, now if someone could find out if the 82 laserdisc is the same one shown on HBO also in the early 80's but not 'sped up'
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Originally posted by: GrinderI bought a stack of LD's last week, and didn't believe what I saw was in there: the UK P&S trilogy! These are THE earliest releases: the PAL equivalents to the NTSC "first issue collection" listed on russ15's project webpage ('82, '84 and '86 respectively). Battlewars, you are right on the money with your comment of these being the clearest representations of the films (though you're talking about the NTSC versions, but they're probably identical apart from difference in resolution and framerate). They rival the official (widescreen) DVD's in detail, but more noticeably they are much brighter, and a lot of stuff can be seen in area's which are black on the DVD's. Although it's a P&S set, and a slight bit of LD rot is present, I may even prefer these to the French THX discs... having a widescreen TV. They just look right: closer to the way I remember them.
The Episode IV disc also is the disc I caused some fuss about a while back, claiming it to be widescreen: a guy told me that, but it turned out to be a mistake. Although the first 3 minutes actually are in anamorphic widescreen, due to the original panoramic shot being squeezed onto a 4:3 display, without black bars on top and bottom

I'll be capturing and releasing this set, details coming up.

EDIT: If there's any interest I can capture a piece with my DVD recorder and upload it as sort of a teaser (no that's not how I will be doing the final capture).


So here it is in all it's glory, the entire UK LaserDisc collection............

Huge innit!!

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/laser/images/uk4.jpg

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/laser/images/uk5.jpg

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/laser/images/uk6.jpg

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/laser/images/ukse.jpg





Originally posted by: battlewarsthanks grinder i'm glad im not alone in thinking this version had the most detail, now if someone could find out if the 82 laserdisc is the same one shown on HBO also in the early 80's but not 'sped up' .


I would be suprised if the answer to this question is out there but from what info we have, I guess that the answer is YES.

Capture the 82 disc onto a PC, speed it up and correct the length of the film and you will probably have as near as you will ever get to the one shown on HBO, given the information we have - unless someone has a recording of this broadcast to compare against.



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Originally posted by: russs15
This sounds very interesting.............

The 80's UK PAL VHS Pan and Scan is totally different to the later THX Pan and Scan releases.

I suspect that the UK PAL LaserDisc may follow the same pattern.

Would you like these (and any others you might have) adding to the project page??

I am not aware of any UK PAL transfers and never even thought about doing such a thing so they would make a very interesting addition


Sure, add them, that way we'll have a nice overview of what's been accounted for so far. The other sets I have are the DC, the French THX set and the NTSC SE box. Those have all been captured by others. But I am working on my own transfer of the French THX discs (I'll be ditching the original audio of course). Moth3r and Citizen have done excellent jobs, I realize this more and more now that I'm doing my own. But both clearly suffer from side effects of filters they have applied. Initially I didn't want to do any post-processing, just a straight capture. And I am very satisfied of what comes straight out of the 2950, but I found some ways of enhancing the image a bit without any compromises.

That's no moon. It's a LaserDisc.

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I have added the details of your LaserDiscs to the project page and look forward to maybe seeing something from you someday.


Does anyone else out there want to join in the fun??

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Originally posted by: russs15
Thanks to the work of Dark Jedi and many others, most of the US LaserDisc releases have now been captured to DVD.

However, some of the earlier releases have not yet been captured (that I know of). They are:-


Star Wars

1989 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play with "incredible shrinking ratio", CBS/FOX
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld3.jpg


The Empire Strikes Back


1989 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/esb_ld2.jpg


Return of the Jedi

1990 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/rotj_ld2.jpg




- This transfer (Dual Layer) should be DONE and ready for distribution I HOPE in time for XMAS!!!! (I'm also going to try to get the "fixed" version )

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Is there much difference between this release and the later re-mastered releases??

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I will be doing the Special edition widescreen versions as well as doing the "Fixed" version ANH,so 4 movies(and for the record,my versions will NOT be DL)
DJ

i have just finished re-doing the ANH faces VHS transfer,and almost done with this:
The US NTSC Standard Play Collection, ANH and ESB there was no ROTJ.

soon i will do the above mentioned and the 97' Special Edition VHS P&S transfer.
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Hi Rik,you said this:
"- This transfer (Dual Layer) should be DONE and ready for distribution I HOPE in time for XMAS!!!!"
what is going to be on this,that it will be DL,what extras do you have,can you fill us in a little?
DJ
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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
Hi Rik,you said this:
"- This transfer (Dual Layer) should be DONE and ready for distribution I HOPE in time for XMAS!!!!"
what is going to be on this,that it will be DL,what extras do you have,can you fill us in a little?
DJ


- No features just the film on DL media captured at the highest bitrate, I feel adding anything extra would go against the true spirit of preservation.



“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Originally posted by: russs15

Star Wars

1982 Pan and Scan CLV, CX Stereo, 1 disc, Extended Play, Time compressed to 118 mins, 20th Century Fox Video
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld1.jpg


This disc is now officially secured for the project and hopefully a few more will follow shortly.

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Originally posted by: russs15

Star Wars



1992 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play with fixed "incredible shrinking ratio", Fox Video
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld10.jpg



Another title that has been secured for this project.............

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Originally posted by: russs15
Originally posted by: russs15

Star Wars



1992 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play with fixed "incredible shrinking ratio", Fox Video
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld10.jpg



Another title that has been secured for this project.............


Russs15 - I have them all now and the first disc has been transfered!!!

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Rikter we know you are doing them,but i am doing them also,but mine will be SL version NOT DL.
DJ
i will have all 4 very soon to this set,also have my own copy of the Japanese Special Collection Trilogy
with my friend Russ's help we will have ALL SW Laserdiscs made for the US soon
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Apart from the First Issue Empire, all the discs mentioned in this thread have now been secured.

I for one am lookng forward to seeing what Dark Jedi and Rikter can produce and how these releases compare to the later THX releases.

Dark Jedi is also doing the 1997 SE Fullscreen VHS to finish the set.......................

All we need now is for someone to get hold of the CED Videodisc versions of Star Wars and capture those.

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Originally posted by: russs15

Thanks to the work of Dark Jedi and many others, most of the US LaserDisc releases have now been captured to DVD.

However, some of the earlier releases have not yet been captured (that I know of). They are:-


Star Wars

1982 Pan and Scan CLV, CX Stereo, 1 disc, Extended Play, Time compressed to 118 mins, 20th Century Fox Video - an ebay auction for this has now been won
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld1.jpg

1985 Pan and Scan CAV, CX Stereo, 3 discs, Standard Play - an ebay auction for this has now been won
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld9.jpg

1989 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play with "incredible shrinking ratio", CBS/FOX
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld3.jpg

1992 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play with fixed "incredible shrinking ratio", Fox Video - an ebay auction for this has now been won
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/sw_ld10.jpg



The Empire Strikes Back

1984 Pan and Scan CLV, CX Stereo, 1 disc, Extended Play, Time compressed to under 120 mins
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/esb_ld1.jpg

1985 Pan and Scan CAV, CX Stereo, 3 discs, Standard Play - an ebay auction for this has now been won
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/esb_ld6.jpg

1989 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/esb_ld2.jpg


Return of the Jedi

1986 Pan and Scan CLV, CX Stereo, 2 disc, Extended Play
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/rotj_ld1.jpg

1990 Widescreen CLV, CX Stereo, 2 discs, Extended Play
http://www.davisdvd.com/images/starwars/rotj_ld2.jpg



In there are the 1977 and 1980 theatrical audios for Star Wars and Empire, the first US release of a Widescreen edition, Star Wars compressed to 118 minutes and Star Wars with the "incredible shrinking ratio" problem - all worthy candidates to be preserved.


My question is, does anyone have any of these discs and would they be willing to mail them away to be captured and preserved. Dark Jedi is on board with this should there be any interest.

I have already put my money where my mouth is as I will be buying the Empire CAV disc just for the 1980 theatrical soundtrack as well as offering with some of the costs. I am also watching a few auctions for other discs too, including the Special Widescreen Edition (with "incredible shrinking ratio" on Star Wars).

Dark Jedi thinks that there may not be much interest in this but I hope there is. Who is right and who is wrong????



All of these titles have now been secured and are either in the hands of or on the way to the expert........(In the case of the Special Widescreen Edition, there are two experts)

Dark Jedi was right as there has not been a fantastic response to this possible project but my thanks go to everyone who has posted here and to those who have PM'ed and e-mailed.

There may be new threads for each of the individual projects as and when they happen so look out for those and I look forward to seeing whatever Dark Jedi, Rikter and Grinder release.

Bye for now..............

[Should skyjedi2005 happen to read this, please drop me another PM but this time with an e-mail address. Thanks for showing an interest.]

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Well in everyone involved - good to know that all the differing laserdisc footage out there is backed up onto dvd and obtainable for those who want it.

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Russ i have in MY possesion now the Star Wars Widescreen set,the corrected SW will be here in a day or 2,LD's are *MINT*,alos have the Japanese Special Collection,again in *MINT* condition,and an now an update on my progress:

Star Wars Standard Play Collection - FINISHED-
Star Wars 97 Special edition VHS Fullscreen -FINISHED-
Star Wars "First Issue" - Not here yet(LD's)
Star wars Special Widescreen Edition (including fixed and non-fixed SW) - SOON -

side note,i am tossing around doing the Japanese Special Collection again,and this time cropping out the Japanese sub-titles and centering the video,not sure though,i will need help with this project.

when all these are finished and burn tested Russ they will all be on the way to you,along with Conan The Barbarian/Destroyer VHS fullscreen transfers i have finished,not sure but i think ONLY widescreen is available on dvd officially.
and you my friend are going to get them whether you want them or not,i know where you live.
DJ
also as menu pics are availble Russ adds them to the link below my pic in my sig.