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Don’t we still have some UFO’s at Area 51? You could use those.
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What did we learn by watching Independence Day? They don’t tell the POTUS about that stuff. 😉
Where were you in '77?
Don’t we still have some UFO’s at Area 51? You could use those.
😃
What did we learn by watching Independence Day? They don’t tell the POTUS about that stuff. 😉
I think it’s time we storm the base then. Get out the camper and the kids … let’s kick some alien ass.
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Don’t we still have some UFO’s at Area 51? You could use those.
😃
What did we learn by watching Independence Day? They don’t tell the POTUS about that stuff. 😉
Which one? Apparently there’s two now, although I refuse to believe it.
So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.
Donald Trump has described the chemical attack in Idlib province which killed more than 70 people as an “affront to humanity”, but offered little clue to any new strategy to end the violence in Syria.
The US president said that Tuesday’s attack – whose victims included women, children and babies – had affected him profoundly and transformed his thinking about the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.
“I will tell you that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me – big impact,” Trump said in the White House Rose Garden. “My attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much … You’re now talking about a whole different level.”
But during a joint press conference with King Abdullah of Jordan on Wednesday, Trump also repeated his criticism of Barack Obama’s administration for drawing and then failing to enforce a “red line” over Assad’s use of chemical weapons.
“I think that set us back a long ways, not only in Syria but in many other parts of the world because it was a blank threat,” Trump said, acknowledging that he now carried responsibility for the crisis.
Obama and his officials have disputed this criticism, insisting that they struck a deal with Russia to remove Syria’s weapons of mass destruction without a need for military intervention.
When asked if the chemical weapons attack on Khan Sheikhun had crossed a red line, Trump said: “It crossed a lot of lines for me. When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, babies, little babies, with a chemical gas that is so lethal – people were shocked to hear what gas it was. That crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line, many, many lines.”
Pressed whether he would consider military intervention to remove Assad, the US president replied: “I’m not saying I’m doing anything one way or another, but I’m certainly not going to be telling you … Militarily, I don’t like to say where I’m going and what I’m doing.”
The British prime minister, Theresa May, currently in Saudi Arabia, said the UK would call for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to investigate. “I’m very clear there can be no future for Assad in a stable Syria, which is representative of all the Syrian people and I call on all the third parties involved to ensure that we have a transition away from Assad,” she said. “We cannot allow this suffering to continue.”
Earlier, Trump’s ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, warned Russia it “cannot escape responsibility” for the attack. Addressing the security council, Haley said it was clear that Assad, Russia and Iran had “no interest in peace”.
The emotive speech, during which Haley stood up to display pictures of children killed in the attack, was as harsh in tone as anything delivered in the same forum by her predecessor, Samantha Power.
In contrast, the US secretary of state has remained largely silent regarding the attack. Rex Tillerson issued a statement critical of the Assad regime and Russia on Tuesday evening but dodged an opportunity to make his point in person in front of cameras.
But it is far from clear how much sway either Haley or Tillerson has on foreign-policymaking in an administration being rocked by a power struggle among White House factions.
Last week, Haley said removing Assad was no longer a US priority, in line with the White House emphasis on attacking Islamic State (Isis).
But on Wednesday, Haley suggested that if the UN security council remained deadlocked on responding to war crimes in Syria, the US might act unilaterally somehow to stop further chemical attacks by the Assad regime.
“When the UN consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times in the life of states when we are compelled to take our own actions,” she said.
Like Trump, she did not say what kind of action the US and its allies might take.
Haley spoke immediately after the deputy Russian envoy, Vladimir Safronkov, who claimed that a Syrian regime airstrike on an opposition warehouse had hit a rebel chemical weapons facility.
Haley was scathing in her rejection of the Moscow version of events, and noted that the investigation that had been set up by the security council had found clear evidence that the Syrian regime was responsible for earlier chemical weapon attacks.
“Time and time again, Russia uses the same false narrative to deflect attention from their allies in Damascus,” Haley said. “Time and time again, without any factual basis, Russia attempts to place blame on others.”
Safronkov had suggested the timing of Tuesday’s attack was intended to disrupt Russian-led peace talks in Astana, Kazakhstan. Haley responded by saying that real progress toward a peaceful settlement was being undermined by the Syrian regime and its backers.
She added: “There is an obvious truth here that must be spoken. The truth is that Assad, Russia and Iran have no interest in peace.”
Speaking in Brussels, where he is attending an international aid conference, the British foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, said all the evidence pointed to the responsibility of the Assad regime and stepped up calls for a political transition in Syria, without specifying how this might happen.
“Objectively, I simply don’t see how Bashar al-Assad can remain in charge after what he has already done,” the foreign secretary said. “Of the 400,000 who are estimated to have been killed in Syria, he is responsible for the vast majority of that butcher’s bill. And you have to go a long way back in history to find a tyrant who has stayed in office given such circumstances.”
Johnson called on all members of the UN security council to support a resolution, drafted by the UK and France, denouncing the chemical weapons attack.
“I hope absolutely everyone feels able to support it, because all we are saying is that there should be condemnation of that chemical weapons attack, and secondly that there should be a thorough and urgent international investigation. And I don’t think anybody could possibly, reasonably oppose such a resolution in all conscience.”
The Turkish leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, a staunch critic of Assad for much of the war, condemned him and the international community and described those who had been killed as “martyrs due to chemical weapons”.
Don’t we still have some UFO’s at Area 51? You could use those.
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What did we learn by watching Independence Day? They don’t tell the POTUS about that stuff. 😉
Which one? Apparently there’s two now, although I refuse to believe it.
The 90’s one?
Where were you in '77?
Don’t we still have some UFO’s at Area 51? You could use those.
😃
What did we learn by watching Independence Day? They don’t tell the POTUS about that stuff. 😉
Which one? Apparently there’s two now, although I refuse to believe it.
The 90’s one?
You’re asking me?
So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.
To be honest, what you wrote there comes across as you are using the deaths of those poor innocent people to try and score political points on an internet message board.
You are better than that mate.
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I’ve literally not heard a single person try to blame Trump for that and I can’t imagine anyone would do so.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/eric-swalwell-donald-trump-susan-rice-declassify-236927
A Democrat on the House panel investigating Donald Trump’s ties to Russia is issuing an ultimatum: If the president is going to accuse members of the Obama administration of breaking the law, he should prove it.
“If the president wants to say that Susan Rice committed a crime, he has the power to declassify. No one else does,” Rep. Eric Swalwell of California said Wednesday. “So, he could actually show us where the crime was. I don’t expect he will, because I think this is just more obstructionism.”
Swalwell’s remarks came after Trump told The New York Times that he believes Rice committed a crime when she reportedly requested the identities of Trump transition aides who were caught up in U.S. surveillance of foreign targets. “It is one of the big stories of our time,” Trump declared.
But Rice, as national security adviser under President Barack Obama, would not have broken the law by making such a request, nor would it necessarily be improper. The identities of U.S. persons caught up in foreign surveillance are typically shielded in intelligence reports, but Rice and other high-ranking officials would have had the legal authority to request that the intelligence agency behind the report “unmask” them.
So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.
To be honest, what you wrote there comes across as you are using the deaths of those poor innocent people to try and score political points on an internet message board.
You are better than that mate.
There would be no reason for me to want political points on this forum or any other. Shame on anyone that might suggest I was using the death of innocent people for benefits of any kind. To be honest, I’m really tired of those who hate Trump and the people who support him saying they are better. Trump said some poignant stuff in this news report and not a single person here who chastises him and supporters will bother to acknowledge it as such.
That was my point and I could see how you might get the impression you did considering all the echo chamber repetition that gets posted in this thread.
I’ve literally not heard a single person try to blame Trump for that and I can’t imagine anyone would do so.
Conspiracy theories often include conspiracy theories about what other people believe. It’s part of the template.
I mean there’s probably some nutjobs out there who believe that but no one here…
Oh shit, I just remembered about frevious. Never mind!
Well, we are a bit of an echo chamber. We have a statistically improbable number of Bernie supporters here. As such, it’s simply logical that we should agree on most matters.
It turned rainbow. I don’t like the whole, “I did something with a specific color so that means I’m contributing!” mindset anyway.
This. I don’t understand the “paint everything pink” fixation for breast cancer awareness. “Yay! The NFL is wearing pink…!? Umm… why?”
It would seem a better use of funds to donate to cancer research than to paint everything pink for a month. Awareness, yes, but wearing pink NFL uniforms doesn’t do squat.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Trump said some poignant stuff
This has literally never happened.
Trump said some poignant stuff
This has literally never happened.
Yes, I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
Where were you in '77?
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
So said the people who thought W. was justified for going into Iraq. And how long did we have people over there? Oh wait, we still do.
Ridding the world of the North Korean Kim dynasty doesn’t mean Korea will suddenly become a peaceful democratic state.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Webster’s defines “poignant” as: a particularly keen expression of loss or regret.
Webster’s defines “keen” as: sharp; insightful.
Like any other human being, Trump will sometimes do the right thing. But he has never said anything poignant in his life. I’m going to pull a quote from the article above:
When asked if the chemical weapons attack on Khan Sheikhun had crossed a red line, Trump said: “It crossed a lot of lines for me. When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, babies, little babies, with a chemical gas that is so lethal – people were shocked to hear what gas it was. That crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line, many, many lines.”
Of course, Trump is expressing the right emotions here. But even when he is saying the right thing, he is still the consummate bullshit artist. It’s the same used-car salesman speak that has become his trademark. Just repeating the same words over and over again. He doesn’t use complete sentences or organize his thoughts. He never makes an argument in an attempt to win people over. He simply reacts instinctively to very base emotions, and then his mouth moves.
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
So said the people who thought W. was justified for going into Iraq. And how long did we have people over there? Oh wait, we still do.
I didn’t mean invade Syria.
Where were you in '77?
Come on, I’m sure he said something poignant once after losing a bunch of money on a bad deal or after declaring a bankruptcy.
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
So said the people who thought W. was justified for going into Iraq. And how long did we have people over there? Oh wait, we still do.
I didn’t mean invade Syria.
But that is what it means. Nature abhors a vacuum.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
So said the people who thought W. was justified for going into Iraq. And how long did we have people over there? Oh wait, we still do.
Ridding the world of the North Korean Kim dynasty doesn’t mean Korea will suddenly become a peaceful democratic state.
Well, if there’s a better way to keep them from perfecting an ICBM capable of reaching the west coast of the U.S., I’d love to hear it? We’re dealing with a guy who had his half(?) brother poisoned though.
Where were you in '77?
There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trumpy without making crap up.
If he backs up his words, and takes some positive decisive action to rid the world of a fiend who uses chemical weapons on innocent people, I will applaud him for it.
So said the people who thought W. was justified for going into Iraq. And how long did we have people over there? Oh wait, we still do.
I didn’t mean invade Syria.
But that is what it means. Nature abhors a vacuum.
So we just let Assad do what he likes? We could at least find where he’s hiding his chemical weapons, and take those out. All these stealth bombers have to be good for something.
Where were you in '77?