Warbler said:
oojason said:
Ryan-SWI said:
Here’s an argument then.
They’re illegal immigrants.
Cherry picking a few in terrible circumstances to try and paint this picture of Trump being an evil dictator is disingenuous.
Or is the law suddenly not something we have to take into consideration because feelings? Wonderful, we can start running the nation solely on feelings, who needs laws anyway right?
No, they’re people.
They are people and they are illegal immigrants. But yes, some are in terrible circumstances and need help. Calling them illegal immigrants does not mean they are not people and are unworthy of help and sympathy. It just means they entered the country illegally, which they did.
Apologies for missing your reply. Yes, indeed they are both - yet it was using the term ‘criminal’ in the derogatory sense that Ryan-SWI did I called him up on in my humble opinion (I mistakenly only quoted his later post and not both of them). Especially so when using that as a response to question the supposed ‘distortion of facts’ because another poster put up a news article highlighting what some illegal immigrants are going through right now and how they are being affected since Trump came to power.
Though technically, under law, they may be ‘criminals’, the authorities have turned a blind eye (for whatever reason) to illegal immigrants for a long time now - to the extent that it unfair to compare them with ‘other’ criminals - the authorities do not turn a blind eye to murder, assault, rape, theft, and other crimes. So much so that there are ‘sanctuary cities’ where illegal immigrants are not questioned as to their status, and are free to use the city services?
To make no distinction between illegal immigrants and ‘real’ criminals in this context is a distortion in itself, ironically ‘picking and choosing’ certain aspects of which Ryan-SWI accused the other posted of doing - incorrectly, as it turns out.
