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Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie — Page 2

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GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

Ohhhhhh.

But for real, it was a top secret plan they needed to steal, in order to research a strategy. The one weakness, something the villains overlooked because they were arrogant (they didn’t consider a small fighter attack to be a threat). Now it’s because some guy put the flaw in there all along… eugh.

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GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

Excuse me, I’m the thread king, I can do what I want.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

This is how you do this thread right.

I’m glad that after four years on this forum I finally did something right!

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DuracellEnergizer said:

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

This is how you do this thread right.

Perhaps, but it’s more fun to tell you when you’re wrong.

It would be if I was, but I’m not, so it isn’t.

Impscum sock confirmed.

Lol.

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Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

Ohhhhhh.

But for real, it was a top secret plan they needed to steal, in order to research a strategy. The one weakness, something the villains overlooked because they were arrogant (they didn’t consider a small fighter attack to be a threat). Now it’s because some guy put the flaw in there all along… eugh.

I like the RO explanation better. It makes a lot more sense.

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Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

Ohhhhhh.

But for real, it was a top secret plan they needed to steal, in order to research a strategy. The one weakness, something the villains overlooked because they were arrogant (they didn’t consider a small fighter attack to be a threat). Now it’s because some guy put the flaw in there all along… eugh.

I still don’t see the issue.

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Not sure if I’m not interpreting your post correctly, Mocata, but my last comment was addressing DominicCobb.

Adding to your post, there’s also:
a) Vader, Tarkin or the Emperor never bothering to monitor Galen after his exile/escape
b) Galen believing his flaw will never be detected by the Imperials in the middle of a battle by merely looking at the Rebels’ battle plan
c) the Imperials being unable or unwilling to send reinforcements to Scarif until the very end of the movie (roughtly 25 real life minutes after the battle has begun) while it takes like 2 minutes for the Rebels to send their whole fleet to the planet. Does the Empire have only 10 or 20 Star Destroyers in the whole galaxy?
d) the Scarif archives being guarded by a single guy during an intrusion/battle alert

while in the original you only needed to accept there was a flaw.

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Oh and Krennic asking two, and only two, Stormtroopers to follow him to the archives.

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DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Actually, yes. He says something like “a young JEDI knight called Darth Vader.” Its use as a title in the prequels explicitly assigns it to Sith/evil people. So why a Jedi would be named Darth becomes odd.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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GZK8000 said:

Not sure if I’m not interpreting your post correctly, Mocata, but my last comment was addressing DominicCobb.

Adding to your post, there’s also:
a) Vader, Tarkin or the Emperor never bothering to monitor Galen after his exile/escape
b) Galen believing his flaw will never be detected by the Imperials in the middle of a battle by merely looking at the Rebels’ battle plan
c) the Imperials being unable or unwilling to send reinforcements to Scarif until the very end of the movie (roughtly 25 real life minutes after the battle has begun) while it takes like 2 minutes for the Rebels to send their whole fleet to the planet. Does the Empire have only 10 or 20 Star Destroyers in the whole galaxy?
d) the Scarif archives being guarded by a single guy during an intrusion/battle alert

while in the original you only needed to accept there was a flaw.

On second thought you were right when you said this

GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

You’re definitely in violation of the second rule of the thread. I was willing to entertain the notion that this wasn’t a baffling complaint, but basically none of your points have anything to do with why someone making the flaw on purpose is a problem.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Actually, yes. He says something like “a young JEDI knight called Darth Vader.” Its use as a title in the prequels explicitly assigns it to Sith/evil people. So why a Jedi would be named Darth becomes odd.

Ehhh this is a bit closer to me understanding but I still don’t care because he’s “lying” anyway.

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I never said intentionally making a flaw is a problem, I merely said Rogue One’s explanations doesn’t make a sense while in Star Wars you only need to accept a tiny bit and move on. Or perhaps I’m missing what you’re trying to say.

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GZK8000 said:

I never said intentionally making a flaw is a problem, I merely said Rogue One’s explanations doesn’t make a sense while in Star Wars you only need to accept a tiny bit and move on. Or perhaps I’m missing what you’re trying to say.

Rogue One’s explanation literally is someone intentionally making a flaw. You’re just describing various complaints you have with how Rogue One executed its plot. Which doesn’t have anything to do with the explanation that someone intentionally made the flaw.

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This all started when moviefreakedmind started a post with this statement: “I hate the exhaust port complaint”. Then I said that, not only this complain is annoying, Lucasfilm also didn’t “fix” it with Rogue One, and I explained why (that it doesn’t make sense, tha it adds bizarre stuff, etc). I didn’t say that Galen adding a flaw was annoying or a problem for me. That is all.

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GZK8000 said:

This all started when moviefreakedmind started a post with this statement: “I hate the exhaust port complaint”. Then I said that, not only this complain is annoying, Lucasfilm also didn’t “fix” it with Rogue One, and I explained why (that it doesn’t make sense, tha it adds bizarre stuff, etc). I didn’t say that Galen adding a flaw was annoying or a problem for me. That is all.

Yeah, I agree it wasn’t something that needed fixing. Beyond that, time to

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Well, I’m glad Ben’s called Kylo Ren and not Darth Kylo or something similar to the sort.
I’m not a fan of every Sith being called “Darth” either
But that’s Star Wars, take the little cool things and run them into the ground for the people who cry over trailers

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Wow, 2 pages and maybe 3 posts actually doing what the thread is for.

For me, and I know many won’t agree, I don’t get the complaint of how Vader supposedly completely changed in ROTJ. I mean yes, he is a bit less intimidating and ruthless, but wasn’t that the point of his whole arc? I always viewed it as him having an encounter with his long sought after son, maiming him, then losing him a bit as having shaken him up and planting the seeds for the films fanale.

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Yeah, I agree with that. Also, I don’t get why people hate the death of Boba Fett so much. I don’t care and if anything Boba Fett shouldn’t have even been in ROTJ. He served his purpose in Empire and that’s all we needed from him. I also hate the name “Boba Fett.” It was far more exciting to just refer to him as the “Bounty Hunter.”

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DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Nope.

Are we still allowed to cite The Secret History of Star Wars on this forum?

They told me they’d fixed it!

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trimboNZ said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Nope.

Are we still allowed to cite The Secret History of Star Wars on this forum, or is that a banning offence now?

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trimboNZ said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Nope.

Are we still allowed to cite The Secret History of Star Wars on this forum?

What Lucas had in mind when doesn’t affect my opinion on this.

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DominicCobb said:

trimboNZ said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

That Darth is a title, not a name. I mean, why the hell not? First of all, it’s a solid portmanteau (“Dark Lord of the Sith”). Second of all, maybe this is just me, but I think Darth is kind of a funny name, but works fine as a title. Also, despite what people say, there is nothing in the OT that would suggest this shouldn’t be the case.

Disagree. At least in terms of how Obi-wan refers to him which suggests he was called Darth before he turned to evil and that was his first name.

Nope.

Are we still allowed to cite The Secret History of Star Wars on this forum?

What Lucas had in mind when doesn’t affect my opinion on this.

Ah, fair enough. We all have our own head-canon.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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Possessed said:

Wow, 2 pages and maybe 3 posts actually doing what the thread is for.

No one should make a thread like this and expect zero discussion on the points brought up. This is a discussion forum.

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TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

Wow, 2 pages and maybe 3 posts actually doing what the thread is for.

No one should make a thread like this and expect zero discussion on the points brought up. This is a discussion forum.

I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any discussion. But at the moment, that’s 95% of the posts in here, with barely anyone actually participating in the thread as it was designed.

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ROTJ:
When DS2 exploded, lots of construction workers, engineers, etc, died.
When Luke is dragging Vader towards a shuttle in the Death Star’s docking bay, there’s people scrambling in the background, yet no one stops to question why the Emperor’s menacing 2IC is being undressed by a blonde kid - everyone knew the station was doomed. I’m pretty sure the workers would have been the first to drop their tools and GTFO at the first sign of trouble.

They told me they’d fixed it!