Doctor Who — Page 63

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

You really should see Ryan Johnson’s doctor. I know it’s not “canon”, but the woman who played the doctor was quite good, it wasn’t a joke, and it was 30 years ago. There were 4 episodes, the 4th one being the best.

Ryan has a website that can be found with a modest bit of googling.

I am intrigued - will certainly give it a go.

 

 

On a separate note I don’t get all the selective cherry-picking of past episodes to try and discredit the notion that a Gallifreyan can’t change sexes - we’re told, and have been shown, that they can change colour, age, personality, character, memory, and sex - so it’s hardly a big surprise…

Over 20 regenerations of various characters in old and new Who before Missy, not once was there a gender change not once.

and just because it hasn’t been mentioned in the earlier Who content doesn’t mean it’s any less correct.

perhaps, but if Timelords can change gender, the lack of any mention of this(and the lack of it actually happening) for over 50 years, is quite glaring.

The Doctor will be a woman - big deal.

Just like it would be no big dead if Romana or Rani changed into a man. Right.

It wouldn’t be a big deal if Romana (Fred) or Rani regenerated into a man - as previously said. Why would it?

What are you talking about with this (Fred). If Romana ever regenerated into a male and went by the name Fred, I have never heard about it.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

You really should see Ryan Johnson’s doctor. I know it’s not “canon”, but the woman who played the doctor was quite good, it wasn’t a joke, and it was 30 years ago. There were 4 episodes, the 4th one being the best.

Ryan has a website that can be found with a modest bit of googling.

not cannon. So I really don’t care about it.

Geez, you totally miss the point. I’m not saying it’s canon (one N, btw), I’m saying that with good story and acting it has been shown that a female doctor can work fine.

… cannon,

Proof that you didn’t read my post. 😃

Thanks for not reading mine.

whatever.

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

You really should see Ryan Johnson’s doctor. I know it’s not “canon”, but the woman who played the doctor was quite good, it wasn’t a joke, and it was 30 years ago. There were 4 episodes, the 4th one being the best.

Ryan has a website that can be found with a modest bit of googling.

I am intrigued - will certainly give it a go.

 

 

On a separate note I don’t get all the selective cherry-picking of past episodes to try and discredit the notion that a Gallifreyan can’t change sexes - we’re told, and have been shown, that they can change colour, age, personality, character, memory, and sex - so it’s hardly a big surprise…

Over 20 regenerations of various characters in old and new Who before Missy, not once was there a gender change not once.

and just because it hasn’t been mentioned in the earlier Who content doesn’t mean it’s any less correct.

perhaps, but if Timelords can change gender, the lack of any mention of this(and the lack of it actually happening) for over 50 years, is quite glaring.

The Doctor will be a woman - big deal.

Just like it would be no big dead if Romana or Rani changed into a man. Right.

It wouldn’t be a big deal if Romana (Fred) or Rani regenerated into a man - as previously said. Why would it?

What are you talking about with this (Fred). If Romana ever regenerated into a male and went by the name Fred, I have never heard about it.

Read back through my post on it in here - and you’ll find the answer.

Now, why would it be a big deal if Romana or Rani regenerated into a man?

Or worse!

RIP 1963-1979

Tobar said:

towne32 said:

Great casting decision, great tears from the predictables!

Now you see, a response like that makes you and the others who have responded like this sound like assholes.

The Doctor himself wasn’t too keen on the idea:

The Fifth Doctor said:

I have a slight problem with that because it’s not as if genders are interchangeable on Gallifrey. I have no problem with female Time Lords, and my daughter [Georgia Moffett, now married to Tennant] has already whizzed round the galaxy [she played the Doctor’s daughter, created from his DNA, in a 2008 episode]. But I don’t like the idea of the Doctor having a sex change - it’s not as if you would have a female James Bond.

The Seventh Doctor said:

I’m a feminist and recognise there are still glass ceilings in place for many women, but where would we draw the line? A Mr Marple instead of Miss Marple? A Tarzanette?

I’m sorry, but no – Doctor Who is a male character, just like James Bond. If they changed it to be politically correct then it would ruin the dynamics between the doctor and the assistant, which is a popular part of the show.

I support feminism, but I’m not convinced by the cultural need of a female Doctor Who.

What is your response to all of the women who disagree with this decision? You can’t so readily dismiss them by flinging around accusations of sexism. Nor should you for all of the male fans who disagree with this either.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with it. Women or otherwise. You can’t always agree with everything, and certainly not on a show that runs for that long. As I’ve said to Warbler before this news even broke, he might not like the next cycle of the show, but maybe he will again some day after that. It’s a show that reflects the era it’s made in. It always has been, always will. I think many of the posts on the other side, today, make you guys look (as you say) like “assholes”. I’m not going to be sweet and comforting in return to inflammatory statements.

The ‘tears’ were specifically regarding responding to the news like a small angry child.

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

You really should see Ryan Johnson’s doctor. I know it’s not “canon”, but the woman who played the doctor was quite good, it wasn’t a joke, and it was 30 years ago. There were 4 episodes, the 4th one being the best.

Ryan has a website that can be found with a modest bit of googling.

I am intrigued - will certainly give it a go.

 

 

On a separate note I don’t get all the selective cherry-picking of past episodes to try and discredit the notion that a Gallifreyan can’t change sexes - we’re told, and have been shown, that they can change colour, age, personality, character, memory, and sex - so it’s hardly a big surprise…

Over 20 regenerations of various characters in old and new Who before Missy, not once was there a gender change not once.

and just because it hasn’t been mentioned in the earlier Who content doesn’t mean it’s any less correct.

perhaps, but if Timelords can change gender, the lack of any mention of this(and the lack of it actually happening) for over 50 years, is quite glaring.

The Doctor will be a woman - big deal.

Just like it would be no big dead if Romana or Rani changed into a man. Right.

It wouldn’t be a big deal if Romana (Fred) or Rani regenerated into a man - as previously said. Why would it?

What are you talking about with this (Fred). If Romana ever regenerated into a male and went by the name Fred, I have never heard about it.

Read back through my post on it in here - and you’ll find the answer.

I didn’t see any answer to my question in the above post and I am not about to re-read the entire thread. Perhaps I’ll google it one day.

Now, why would it be a big deal if Romana or Rani regenerated into a man?

because feminists.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Would it bother you if it were a black doctor? After all, all the doctors have been white for 50 years.

believe it or not, I don’t think racial switch would bother me so much. But would still bother me, after over 20 regenerations of various characters seen in both new and old Who, that not once did race change.

So much for “color blind”?

again I am tempted to re post the middle finger pic, but I will refrain.

SilverWook said:

I’m sure this will all be forgotten when Rifftrax does The Five Doctors next month. 😉

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Canon has one n.

oops.

very well I will leave this thread and talk about it no longer. I don’t wish the thread locked. One sexist pig signing off.

Tobar said:

What is your response to all of the women who disagree with this decision? You can’t so readily dismiss them by flinging around accusations of sexism. Nor should you for all of the male fans who disagree with this either.

Maybe you should consider more up to date quotes from the seventh doctor?

a message from Sylvester!
“Congratulations Jodie Whittaker!!! One small step for Women, one Giant leap for Womenkind!!”

How about one from the sixth?

Cannot deny that I am amazed by the ‘never watch it again’ reaction by some viewers ( I hesitate to call them ‘fans’). Very sad

But I’m sure they’re just brainwashed by the femnazis!!!

Tobar said:

towne32 said:

I have no problem with people disagreeing with it. Women or otherwise. You can’t always agree with everything, and certainly not on a show that runs for that long. As I’ve said to Warbler before this news even broke, he might not like the next cycle of the show, but maybe he will again some day after that. It’s a show that reflects the era it’s made in. It always has been, always will. I think many of the posts on the other side, today, make you guys look (as you say) like “assholes”. I’m not going to be sweet and comforting in return to inflammatory statements.

The ‘tears’ were specifically regarding responding to the news like a small angry child.

Well I’m glad you’re engaging in good faith. Personally I don’t think they’re doing this for the right reasons and I worry about the ramifications on the future of the series.

Chibnall had certain dealbreakers when he took the job. It’s quite possible that he pushed them further than the BBC was even quite ready to go at that point, which would be exactly the way to do it. And he’s choosing an actress that he has lots of experience working with. The show will survive. And, I think, it will prosper.

Ok, I have to address this.

oojason said:

It’s next to the one where you lied about what I said - or rather didn’t say.

When/where did I do this?