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Picard season 3 was like a fanfiction of someone who liked the TOS movies and wanted to retcon things he didn’t like about the TNG movies. Some of the nostalgia makes no sense. The Enterprise E should have been in it.

They retcon perceived wrongs from the TNG movies but keep bad things from Picard season 1 and 2 intact. When they should have retconned those. The worst thing about Picard is not fixed. Everyone knows it but because there might be someone who hasn’t seen these i won’t spoil it.

Its basically the Nemesis sequel movie extended to a mini series. It might have been better as a slightly longer than 2 hour movie.

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I liked Strange New Worlds season 2 more than i thought i would but it was very uneven. The first few episodes were good. The cartoon and musical episodes are some of the worst episodes of Star Trek ever, especially those old scientists. I don’t watch Lower Decks, it was pretty cringe. The episode where they murdered the Klingon ambassador was easily the worst of the lot, i didn’t even really mind the riffing on City on the Edge of Forever where Khan’s descendant falls in love with alternate timeline Kirk, or even the one where Spock acts silly because he is fully human.

What did give me a double take was Kirk’s father was first officer on the Kelvin? What that was in the JJverse not Prime, in canon he was supposed to be first officer under April on the first Starship Enterprise and i don’t mean the NX-01.

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I’ve never taken “DISCO” and its spin-off to be in the Prime timeline to begin with so hopefully that points to SNW and the rest to be Kelvin after all.

I will say, if you’re a fan of the franchise. Lower Decks is worth the watch. It like most Trek has a pretty bad first season but it improves as it goes on and you can tell the people running that show are real fans of the legacy franchise pre-Abrams.

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Tobar said:

I’ve never taken “DISCO” and its spin-off to be in the Prime timeline to begin with so hopefully that points to SNW and the rest to be Kelvin after all.

I think it’s more likely DISCO-onward is its own third timeline rather than part of Kelvin, but the lunatics currently running the asylum will never fess up to that. Maybe in another decade or so…

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They only admitted Disco was a visual reboot and that they made some canon changes in SNW. I’m fine mostly with the stuff inside the new Discoprise, the ship doesn’t look like the original on the outside though. And for everyone that said the original look would be impossible or ridiculous Terry had an original Connie design in Picard season 3.

The new design is nice don’t get me wrong its cool, its not the JJPrise, but its still not the ship from The Cage, or TOS.

To me the laziest thing they’ve done is use the Gorn and do an Alien/Aliens type of story. And kind of remaking old episodes like Balance of Terror, or City on the Edge of Forever. Or always going back to the super villain or Khan.

I like Chapel except for the murder episode, but she isn’t Chapel from TOS. And Spock isn’t Nimoy’s version.

I really like the new Uhura, and i sort of saw Laan as Worf/Tasha type. Ortegas feels to me like a Sulu type. the Swashbuckler, brave, daring best pilot. Number 1 was kind of week in season 2, Pike is such a empty character he could easily be cut, all he does is act like the cool uncle or cook in the kitchen he never comes off as a command guy making hard decisions like the Jeff Hunter version. I like Anson Mount but he is way too cool and smooth as a Starfleet Captain, its like they are trying to replicate Shatner Kirk. And that character wasn’t created to be cool, not in the way they do shows today where they insist upon it.

I guess Pike feels to me like Mount is playing Han Solo as dad.

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JadedSkywalker said:

What did give me a double take was Kirk’s father was first officer on the Kelvin? What that was in the JJverse not Prime, in canon he was supposed to be first officer under April on the first Starship Enterprise and i don’t mean the NX-01.

You have to remember, of course, that the JJVerse timeline was identical to the Prime timeline up to the point of the Romulans arriving. So in both timelines he was on the Kelvin, it’s just that in the Prime they made it back to Earth before Jim was born and George went on to serve elsewhere.

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timdiggerm said:

JadedSkywalker said:

What did give me a double take was Kirk’s father was first officer on the Kelvin? What that was in the JJverse not Prime, in canon he was supposed to be first officer under April on the first Starship Enterprise and i don’t mean the NX-01.

You have to remember, of course, that the JJVerse timeline was identical to the Prime timeline up to the point of the Romulans arriving. So in both timelines he was on the Kelvin, it’s just that in the Prime they made it back to Earth before Jim was born and George went on to serve elsewhere.

Simon Pegg went on-record discarding that premise:

With the Kelvin timeline, we are not entirely beholden to existing canon, this is an alternate reality and, as such is full of new and alternate possibilities. “BUT WAIT!” I hear you brilliant and beautiful super Trekkies cry, “Canon tells us, Hikaru Sulu was born before the Kelvin incident, so how could his fundamental humanity be altered? Well, the explanation comes down to something very Star Treky; theoretical, quantum physics and the less than simple fact that time is not linear. Sure, we experience time as a contiguous series of cascading events but perception and reality aren’t always the same thing. Spock’s incursion from the Prime Universe created a multidimensional reality shift. The rift in space/time created an entirely new reality in all directions, top to bottom, from the Big Bang to the end of everything. As such this reality was, is and always will be subtly different from the Prime Universe. I don’t believe for one second that Gene Roddenberry wouldn’t have loved the idea of an alternate reality (Mirror, Mirror anyone?). This means, and this is absolutely key, the Kelvin universe can evolve and change in ways that don’t necessarily have to follow the Prime Universe at any point in history, before or after the events of Star Trek ‘09

https://simonpegg.net/2016/07/11/a-word-about-canon/

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It was supposed to be just that Romulus was destroyed in both timelines/quantum realities. But the Discoverse has thrown all that out the window with all their changes to canon. They’ve changed whole backstories of TOS characters and their characteristics or when they joined the crew of the Enterprise, it can’t be the same Prime timeline. Even the Gorn are seen before they are supposed to be seen. They are more the evil unreasoning alien type from the Alien movies. Which isn’t a Star Trek thing, remember Devil in the Dark and how Spock grieved for the Horta.

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Despite all the drama and everyone suing each other I finally did see the Icarus Maneuver short, and I thought it was fantastic.

I won’t get into all the Axanar Drama but it’s really a shame. A full hour long or 2 hour long feature like that would be the best thing to come out of Star Trek in years. I’m still not convinced if they did it for real Alec Peters should be Garth though i think an actor would be better, but he is just good enough for a 6 minute short film.

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FINALLY have gotten around to getting DEEP SPACE NINE on DVD! It’s the Season 1-3 bundle that’s those 24-disc cases, got it for not very much money from HamiltonBook. Then undecided which iteration of the individual remeaining seasons I should buy. Original release/digipak or the regular Amaray/Viva Elite cases? Heavily prefer the graphic design for the digipaks.
STAR TREK VOYAGER I’m guessing I should go for the complete series 24-disc two cases release. All that remains from my STAR TREK collection, TOS-ENT era, is TAS and TOS Gene Roddenberry Vault on Blu-ray disc.
Have been slowly rewatching TNG on the beautiful remastered Blu-ray discs. At season 3 right now. Originally watched when first broadcast, had the VHS and DVDs.
Haven’t bothered watching Discovery, Strange New Worlds I’m in the middle of watching season 1 but trailed off with other shows to watch will get back to watching it, been meaning to watch Picard, and apathetic towards Lower Decks.
The Orville I’ve only watched the first 5 episodes but have been meaning to watch the rest of it.

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I finally saw ‘Section 31’ Paramount+ film a few weeks back - unfortunately it wasn’t for me. It felt more like a 2-part episode of Discovery rather than its own thing (or pilot for a Section 31 series - or for more S31 films).

A pity, though am glad others seemingly enjoyed it. Michelle Yeoh was good to watch - though the choreography and ultra-fast ‘snappy’ direction didn’t help anyone stand out in it (character-wise or acting-wise), and the story was a little predictable.

Have to say I prefer DS9’s take on Section 31 - yet that’s likely just me being overly fond of / nostalgic for DS9.
 

Looking forward to Season 3 of Strange New Worlds - though I don’t know much about what else Trek-wise is coming up.

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They wrapped on the first season of Star Trek Starfleet Academy, set in the 32nd century. Who knows when it comes out.

Tawny Newsome is supposed to be in the process of writing her Star Trek Sitcom in live action that is supposed to be in the 25Th Century potentially? Potential for Bill Shatner to be in it deaged. Or Riker with Frakes to show up.

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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | Season 3 Official Teaser

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjAWSIJCcmY - a 1 minute trailer at the official Paramount+ youtube channel.
 

The blurb: ‘One show. Infinite Adventures. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds returns this summer exclusively on Paramount+!
Join the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise as they discover new civilizations, test their resolve and dive into thrilling adventures.’

 

Looks like fun. I’m in.

 

Article from the official Trek site: www.startrek.com/en-un/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-s3-teaser-summer
 

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