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ANDOR - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread

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Just announced. Wasn’t expecting this at all!

The rousing spy thriller will explore tales filled with espionage and daring missions to restore hope to a galaxy in the grip of a ruthless Empire. A release date for the series has not yet been announced.

www.starwars.com/news/cassian-andor-live-action-series-announced - 2018 article

Cassian Andor Live-Action Series Announced! | The Star Wars Show’ at the (official Star Wars youtube channel)

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Well considering Rogue One is my probably my favorite of the Disney-era Star Wars films, color me intrigued!

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Have already seen some interesting thoughts online.

Many speculating if Alan Tudyk will appear as K2-SO, or if we will see other prominent figures of the Rebellion, like Genevieve O’Reilly as Mon Mothma, Smits as Bail Organa, a young Princess Leia?

One person speculated that the show could be called Fulcrum, since Cassian used to be Fulcrum before (or after?) Ashoka Tano and Agent Kallus eventually adopted the role. It also leads me to wonder if this could possibly mean we could see a live-action Ashoka or Hera Syndulla at the least. I doubt we’ll see Ahsoka but there’s a lot of possibilities.

I’m also seeing a few people wish we were getting more Jedi/Sith related stuff exploring new territory, and all I can say to that is that you just have to be patient. I think they are working on exactly that kind of content with the future movies, but they’re not ready to talk about it yet, and they probably don’t want to step on those filmmakers’ toes with any concurrent projects regarding the Jedi/Sith just yet. But once the Old Republic ball gets rolling and they’re more comfortable with that part of history, they will start exploring it more in movies, tv series, games, etc.

For those of you who want to see that kind of stuff, I think this will be an interesting series to get into in the meantime. This also to me seems like it’ll be the closest thing to Lucas’ Underworld series will probably get, since it is set during the Dark Times. I’m also curious if these series will be a one-season kind of thing or be open-ended with the potential for multiple seasons. The latter is probably the most likely scenario.

What is a little surprising to me is how the announcement didn’t really mention any showrunners. Typically the movies/shows are tied to the lead director or producer: Abrams, Johnson, Filoni, Favreau, Benioff & Weiss. Surprised no creative lead was mentioned, which makes me wonder whose idea this was in the first place (maybe Kennedy?) and if they have even found a showrunner yet.

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A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

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Can’t say I’m terribly surprised, more shows was a certainty and this is probably one of the more obvious premises to do for this format considering a lot of factors.

As for people being disappointed about the lack of Jedi, I certainly think it’s possible they’re making them sort of exclusive to the movies.

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Cool! Dang it, Disney. I don’t WANT any more streaming subscriptions. But man, all the Star Wars content is really tempting… ugh.

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I love that they’re avoiding the Jedi and the Force. The Galaxy is so much bigger than that.

The rousing spy thriller will explore tales filled with espionage and daring missions to restore hope to a galaxy in the grip of a ruthless Empire.

YES.

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I smell edit material.

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would love to see Millie Bobby Brown cast as Princess Leia in this or some other SW series. In a few years she might be old enough to pull it off.

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I’d love to see K-2 again!

Never got into RO because of the poor characterization (besides the robot). Bur while I’m not a fan of Cassian now, the six years old line could give way to some superb stories.

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An OT-era Rebel Spy tv series? I’m intrigued and probably more interested in that than The Mandalorian (though will give both a go 😃)

Looking forward to finding out who’ll be writing and helming the show (c’mon Ron D. Moore…) and more details - hopefully a more pragmatic ‘greyer’ view and feel of the world a la Rogue One.
 

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Rogue One is my favorite Star Wars film. This pretty much guarantees I’ll be a subscriber to their streaming service. I was already interested enough in The Mandalorian. This seals the deal. Two new shows, both free of the weight of The Saga. Looks like we may be getting actual EU stories.

These two shows are much more interesting to me than any of the films they’ve announced. I’m not interested in Rey anymore and I certainly don’t care about a Rian-helmed trilogy.

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Looking forward to finding out who’ll be writing and helming the show (c’mon Ron D. Moore…) and more details - hopefully a more pragmatic ‘greyer’ view and feel of the world a la Rogue One.

Oh man, I hadn’t thought about that. Moore would be perfect for either of these!

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Cassian might be my least favorite character of the Disney era; I thought he was totally one-note and boring in Rogue One. A series could really do a lot to change my opinion by fleshing him out, though, so I’m on board. Plus, I’d never say no to the possibility of more K2.

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I’d love to see K-2 again!

Never got into RO because of the poor characterization (besides the robot). Bur while I’m not a fan of Cassian now, the six years old line could give way to some superb stories.

I’ve been beaten to my own opinion.

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Anchorhead said:

Rogue One is my favorite Star Wars film. This pretty much guarantees I’ll be a subscriber to their streaming service. I was already interested enough in The Mandalorian. This seals the deal. Two new shows, both free of the weight of The Saga. Looks like we may be getting actual EU stories.

I never thought I’d see the day you put any SW movie above the original, let alone got this excited over not just one, but two SW TV series! 😉

But yeah, I’m pretty pumped for this. Moore would be a great fit if they approach him for it - his tendency toward religious themes might even work if young Cassian was a believer in the Jedi/Force/Whills, though I hope they don’t tread any more deeply into Jedi/Force stuff on the show than Rogue One did.

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I think part of my lesser love for the 1977 film - and to be clear, I still LOVE it - is that for me the entire Saga has become contaminated by all the damage Lucas inflicted upon it through the years. The suppression, the prequels, the SEs, the constant lying, etc, etc.

I haven’t watched it since the Bonus Disc GOUT was released. Part of that is so that it stays a separate entity from all the mess that came after. The NPR version is still my go-to for that story. It’s also free of all that came after.

If the early descriptions are correct, these two new TV shows are a return to the days where the GFFA was vast and mysterious. Man, that is exactly what I’ve wanted for decades. Story and characters first, spinning colors and visuals second.

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I hope they don’t tread any more deeply into Jedi/Force stuff on the show than Rogue One did.

I agree. At least when Rogue One did address them, it was to put them right again; The Force Of Others and Kyber crystals. No more of that idiotic midichlorian BS, and the chosen one… * eye roll *

This new stuff - a deep space detective and a deep space gunslinger - bring it!

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I don’t get it. This is them holding back on the spin offs for a while?

Also Cassian Andor? That’s not a character.

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I don’t get it. This is them holding back on the spin offs for a while?

Spin off movies that are box office risks post-Solo. Both of these live action shows are in service of propping up Disney+, which is an entirely different type of risk. It’s also easier to course-correct a TV series with a poor reception than a big-budget movie.

Also Cassian Andor? That’s not a character.

I, for one, thought he was the most interesting character in Rogue One. Besides, how do you develop characters? By giving them screen time. You could argue that he should have had more development in RO, but his being underdeveloped in a movie shouldn’t be an argument against using him in a series where he can get more development.

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Didn’t expect this. Sounds very interesting and the era is perfect, too.

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This could work with a Mission: Impossible type scenario, (the tv series, not the Tom Cruise movies) where Cassian gets a new objective every episode, and has to assemble a team best suited to the job.
We all know Cassian and K2 aren’t going to buy the farm, but new characters around them can rotate in and out, and we’ll never know who in the team will survive.

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Where were you in '77?

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This sounds great let’s just hope it lives up to our expectations

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A second live-action ‘Star Warsy’ show announced? Fine by me, and hopefully BOTH will be great!

As with every movie in the franchise since the Original Trilogy, I ended up discarding a lot of scenes when working out what would be my own ideal version of ROGUE ONE. However, there’s certainly plenty I like about it overall.

But when I first watched the movie, I remember really disliking the ‘Cassian Andor’ character initially, due to the way it involved him ‘back-shooting’ his injured informant within the first few minutes of being introduced to him. Personally, I’d have preferred my introduction to this particular main character to have been handled a little differently, so that I could have been rooting for him from the off…but I understand if others are content with his ruthless streak being front-and-centre from the very start of the movie. It’s not that I minded him being portrayed as a ruthless character when necessary, it’s just that I didn’t care for this new character for a good portion of the movie due to the way his very first scene was structured.

So although I appreciated his character a bit more as the movie progressed, I ended up removing that entire scene when working out my own ideal version - I much prefer to have Cassian’s first introduction as being the scene where he initially questions Jyn at the rebel base on Yavin 4, as all the relevant information a viewer needs about her father is covered in this scene anyway…and a first-time viewer would still feel that Cassian is capable of carrying out the order to kill him eventually I reckon.

Anyway, that’s just my own take, and I now like the character a whole lot more when he’s introduced this way, and I look forward to whatever earlier exploits this show brings. 😃

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As much as I want to resist the impulse to default to “CAST THE STRANGER THINGS KIDS IN EVERYTHING” fever, she would be great and she’s exactly the right age to jump in on season 2.

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Yeah, I could definitely see a young Leia showing up in later seasons possibly, which would mean she would continue to get older and get closer to the right age. The only reason I think they would not want to cast her would be because they might want a less recognizable actress to play Leia, so we just see “Leia” rather than Eleven. Though honestly with the right costume and hairdo, I think she could pull it off.

For me, I am curious of what we will see of Cassian’s characterization. Will we be introduced to him when he is already in the Rebellion, or will we get to see how he got recruited? Will we see him as a child during the Clone Wars? Maybe we will get flashbacks to his childhood and/or recruitment, who knows. I definitely think though that we see Cassian grow to become weighed down by the morally questionable actions he must take for the Rebellion. There is a lot of potential I think with the idea of him having this noble idea of fighting the good fight when he initially joins or whenever he becomes an intelligence officer, to him slowly begin to realize how the line between right and wrong is blurred during war.

I could picture a scenario where he presented with a difficult choice during a mission, and he ends up going with the “moral” choice, but the choice to follow his moral code ends up having dire consequences. Maybe by choosing to not kill one person ends up getting other members of the Rebellion killed.