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.: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)

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This set is created using the Definitive Edition Laserdiscs captured using an Asus V6800 Deluxe Geforce 1 card and a Pioneer 515 Laserdisc player. The Definitive set is the second edition which includes the corrected Leia welding set.

It is thus far a seven disc set.

ANH NTSC
ESB NTSC
ROTJ NTSC
Extras D1 - empire of Dreams documentary PAL
Extras D2 - remaining extras from 2004 DVd release + DE LD stills galleries PAL
Extras D3 - original 1977, 1980 and 1983 making ofs. 4:3 PAL
Extras D4 - DE LD extras + Kevin Rubio’s Troops @ proper DVD resolution

Extras D1,2 and 3 will eventually be converted to NTSC when I get the NTSC 2004 DVD and have time to convert the making of’s and clean them up properly.

They are on DVD-R 4.7GB and made with a 2pass VBR in TMPGenc, average of 5mbps with a max of 8mbps.

Sound is 2.0 dolby stereo AC3 at 224kbps

Each disc has a THX intro clip in matching sound with static menus

some sample shots of the WIP on the left, the original capture, on the right, the amended and color corrected, sharpened image.

this is using the MSU sharpener, dotcrawl comb filter as well as some saturation and color balance correction.

first the standard comparison shots

screenie1
screenie2
screenie3
screenie4
screenie5
screenie6

others

screenie7
screenie8
screenie9
screenie10
screenie11
screenie12

menu shots to come.

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Having just upgraded to DSL, I can tell you now that people with dial-up will hate reading this page. Do you have a website that you can link the pics to? (BTW, they look great!)

BTW, why are you mixing NTSC and PAL transfers?

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I bet it's because the source was PAL so he just kept them PAL - MOST cheap Target/Wal-Mart DVD players can play NTSC and PAL

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a) based in the UK
b) have an expensive sony 7700 dvd player that was chipped by sony and sold from the shop that way

so as I have a multi region player, multi standard video not a problem for me.

the stuff is in PAL because I haven't bought the 2004 dvd release yet, I borrowed a R2 set off a friend, but my film capture was done from the NTSC DE Laserdiscs so at the moment, the complete set is a mixed media until I get out from being just made redundant and can get the NTSC R1 2004 DVD release. then I'm going to remaster the extras using the same stuff, but as NTSC.

the making of's when I bought them off ebay, I was very surprised to find they were in PAL form. I think whoever did them (and they are rubbish quality by the way,) must have used a multi standard UK LD player and recorded them direct onto their DVD recorder. they need a lot of cleaning up and as it is a 4:3 PAL TV source, I'm not sure if converting them to NTSC is a good idea or possible at this point.

however if anyone would care to send me a DVD-R with the NTSC versions of these on, that would be great so I can finish this set off.

at this point I am thinking of using Scara's covers.

also, when I get a job, I'm going to get a Pioneer A09 or something similar so I can burn this dual layer and save on discs.


then, when I do get the NTSC 2004 DVD's I am tempted to follow a few other examples here and try and de-SE the DVD's using a mix of source material and perhaps keep one or two SE changes, like ben's house matte painintg.

I am also seriously toying with the idea of doing branching so I have both SE, and normal on one dual layer disc. gonna need a lot of reading to accomplish that though.


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PS, how come no one responds to PM's around here?

also, if anyone needs to contact me, my actual mail address is now

lancer@dial.pipex.com

the other address doesn't work anymore.

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PMs are disabled by default...

Moll.

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^^ you have to turn them on - IIRC you can do this by clicking on 'Profile' at the top right of the screen

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gawd, just spent the better part of the day remastering my menu music. sampled from the 1997 SE soundtrack CD release. noticed a lot of breakup at the end of some menu's music last night, it was all strained and reedy so redid it. much improved but blooyd annoying to be spotting errors like this at this stage.

also redid my ANH soundtrack to include the two previous missing lines of dialogue. tested it, ac3'd it and ran a HD simualtion of the disc. sounds okay.

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Not bad, although your capturing a nats too bright. Look at vaders cloak in the first shot visible artefacting in the darker parts. Also your filters seem to be softening the image to my eyes. overall a nice, detailed (if a little soft) capture. Better than any of the efforts I've seen on the screenshot thread. (perhaps with the exception of the ISOmix).
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How come you want to convert PAL to NTSC? I'd leave it as PAL. Every DVD player plays PAL, and only NTSC people with TV sets from the 80's will have trouble with the signal.
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Does your set have the close caption subtitles? And how are you making the DD 2.0 sound track. I have a Dazzle 2 and ATI AIW and those PC capture cards only record in MP2.
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I captured originally with an Asus Geforce 1 V6800 deluxe. audio went into the phono in on my SB Live! Platinum live drive ports on the front of the case.

I then used besweet to generate a DD 2.0 AC3 file for my sound. No subtitles were captured at all. I added the greedo lines in ANH and jabba's lines in ROTJ using script files in AVIsynth 2.07.

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new screencaps from my latest color correction round. this is all done in virtualdub using the following settings.

vdubs own HSV filter. ( the donald graft one uses different settings) Hue 0. saturation + 120%, value 0
donald grafts red green blue adjust filter . red 97, green 101, blue 104
levels. input levels 16, 0.978, 255 operating in luma box ticked output levels 0,255
donald grafts Hue saturation intensity filter, hue 0, saturation 1.09, intensity 1.01. apply these to red, yellow, blue, cyan, green, magenta. preserve luma box checked.
MSU denoiser, set for normal, temporal 20, spatial 1.0
MSU smart sharpen, set as small overall and borders.

The MSU filter is probably the best sharpening filter I think I've ever seen but god it is slow. 1-2fps on a 2.8ghz P4, same as on a PIII 933mhz so it obviously needs a lot of optimisation from the creators. if it was faster I'd have no hesitation in recomending it, but as it is, it's good, but be prepared to be sitting around for a while waiting for it to finish.

skin tone has been balanced by frame 5100 which is the close up of the Tantive soldier in the corridor shootout. princess leia's lips, other reds in the film. artoo using the comments by mverta's legacy site as a guide.

screenshots can be found here.

screenie 1
screenie 2
screenie 3
screenie 4
screenie 5
screenie 6
screenie 7
screenie 8
screenie 9
screenie 10
screenie 11
screenie 12
screenie 13
screenie 14
screenie 15
screenie 16
screenie 17
screenie 18
screenie 19
screenie 20

comments welcome
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Better capture there. I noticed their seems to be a lot of jaggies on horizontal lines on your captures, are you deinterlacing? Check out shot 5 on your list the doorway on the right of Leia the top most horizontal groove on the post has almost disappeared. Knock the blue hue down a bit.
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new tweaks and screencaps to show progress. I am resigned to using MSU smartsharpen even though it's gonna take a bloody age to do 174,000 frames of movie that way.

sangnom has now been included in the filters to cure my jaggies and a bloody good job its done too.
I've also used a few new filters too.

what are peoples opinions? I'm particularly interested in comments on the following.

using mverta's site as a good rule of thumb reference.

artoo's blue
skin tone
sky color

oversaturated, about right. too much too little?

zip with screencaps here
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no one got an opinion then?
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They look bang on to me
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Yeah, I was going to say some of the earlier ones looked like the reds were pushed a bit too far, but those look good; nice and rich without being over the top.
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I think the softness happens to come from the save for web option in photoshop on this occasion because I am sure they were sharper on my screen at home and I ain't got the best monitor in the world.

the other trick of course is that they don't seem quite so soft on my Wega TV so its swings and roundabouts.

I dialed blue down 2 notches on my RGB settings because looking at some later scenes there just seems to be a slight lack in some of the whites.
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Your caps seem to be a little on the soft side though. Though I'm not sure if that's due to your filtering process or your card just not capturing all the detail. Keep up the great work man.


beleive me, you should see the original file I'm working from. I never realised before that it was so soft. that's what you get for staring at the screen for so long.
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new captures from the project.

color corrected, sangnom, dedot and limited shapren in avisynth, MSU smart sharpen in vdubmod.

still not convinced over limitedsharpen yet but might keep it to counteract softening due to dedot.

sangnom really cured jaggies, really amazing filter.

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