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Army of Darkness | Television Cut Reconstruction - HD (* unfinished project *) — Page 2

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RidgeShark said:

Thank you Mr. Brown - you do understand everything correctly.

really just great i was looking for an edit with the two tv scenes the good bad i’m the guy with gun line. maybe the scene with ash asking for henry the reds help. the director’s cut footage with the theatrical ending 😦

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That’s great. Why don’t you buy the Scream Factory set and make your own custom edit that is exactly what you want?

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RidgeShark said:

That’s great. Why don’t you buy the Scream Factory set and make your own custom edit that is exactly what you want?

  1. I don’t have a blu ray drive 2)I don’t know how to edit like people on here do
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jedimasterobiwan, it sounds like what you’re really after is the Primitive Screwhead Edition DVD that RidgeShark made a few years ago. It is only available in SD (and RidgeShark has no plans to upgrade it, so don’t ask him), but used the best sources available at the time so it’s still great to watch.

If you don’t know how to edit, it’s never been easier to learn how - even very basic tools are accessible and it’s a lot of fun once you start trying.

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djsmokingjam said:

jedimasterobiwan, it sounds like what you’re really after is the Primitive Screwhead Edition DVD that RidgeShark made a few years ago. It is only available in SD (and RidgeShark has no plans to upgrade it, so don’t ask him), but used the best sources available at the time so it’s still great to watch.

If you don’t know how to edit, it’s never been easier to learn how - even very basic tools are accessible and it’s a lot of fun once you start trying.

I also said i didn’t have a blu ray drive.

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I’ve deleted my previous comment; it’s just serving to further the Jedimasterobiwan derail that’s sadly taken over this thread.

I’m hoping everyone will stop replying to his constant stream of “make-me-this” requests, and we can steer this thing back on track. This is an interesting project and I’m really impressed by RidgeShark’s method of overlaying the Koch and HD versions to add detail to the upscale.

So – RidgeShark – how goes the second scene? 😄

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Experiencing a small burnout. The first shot of the second scene is excruciating to pull off, but it will get there. I’m taking a small break right now from this particular madness.

I’ve also been looking at ways to color correct these scenes and the film to help further reduce the jarring transition between footage. The slow fade from 1080p to upscaled 480p helps a great deal, but getting the color right is just as important.

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Where have I been? Has it really been 7 years since I started this thread? Yikes! The burnout is real.

Shout has since released the Theatrical Cut in 4K, and there was hope they would do right by the TV Cut, but alas…no.

I’m attempting to restart this project, but I need help on the second sequence.

Bad NTSC to PAL Conversion DVD Source:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aZt1fV5YmtwyAfxPXPKpzlxn7ZUKF_Iq/view?usp=share_link

Lower Quality Recording of Original NTSC (interlaced) for reference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ueDuU7q9AarazF2_T4ivQZiAjJRK9XTM/view?usp=share_link

Where we last left off: I’m trying to convert a bad NTSC to PAL conversion back to 23.976fps. The film was originally given a 3:2 Pulldown Telecine to NTSC, which I have a lower quality interlaced recording for reference - an inverse telecine on it will give you a decent 23.976fps result. I’ve tried QTGMC+Srestore on the PAL DVD, but there is something else going on here that will require a different method. It appears the PAL is somehow slowed down. I’ve tried figuring out a SelectEvery pattern and have so far failed. I was hoping someone much more talented than myself could help me with this.

The first two shots of the deleted sequence go over 1000 frames each once converted with QTGMC to 50fps and manually selecting the correct frames when referencing my old recording is a nightmare. The 3rd shot isn’t as long, but is still painful. I have completed selecting the correct frames for the rest of the sequence which require less intensive comparisons to select the correct frames.

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Any kind soul made of steel want to come in and manually remove the rest of the bad frames for me? Just another thousand or so to sift through for this one shot.

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I’ve manually removed some more and am now up to frame 300.

Has anyone checked out the 84 Entertainment Mediabook release with 3 Blu-ray Discs? The TV Version is on one of the discs. I’m considering importing on the odd chance they didn’t just rip the Koch DVD encode and instead gave it a different one. Hate to waste the money though.

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Glad to see you back and that you’ve got this project up and running again. I can’t wait for this

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Glad to see you back and that you’ve got this project up and running again. I can’t wait for this

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Danacky said:

Glad to see you back and that you’ve got this project up and running again. I can’t wait for this

Thank you Danacky! I really appreciate the support and encouragement. I just got to frame 400. I just have to sift through about 635 more frames to find the corresponding 298 “correct” frames for this first shot.

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The first shot is done. Working on the second.

On a side note, the future of fanedits looks bright

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The manual frame selection process is complete on scenes 1 & 2 (with the possibility of later error correction). But I’ve tried my best.

TV Sequence 1:
Starting QTGMC 50fps Frames: 5027
Ending “Correct” Frames: 2323

TV Sequence 2:
Starting QTGMC 50fps Frames: 5042
Ending “Correct” Frames: 2368

I say “Correct” because sometimes the best matching frame is more like 95% accurate due to the destruction caused by the NTSC to PAL conversion.

Next is the alternate take in the graveyard where Ash is punched in the stomach instead of the groin. The QTGMC 50fps version has 107 frames to sift through. Relatively easy in comparison.

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In conforming the 1080p Director’s Cut to the 24p copy of the TV Cut, I’ve come to a new appreciation of how intricately the film was recut to finally arrive at the pacing of the US Theatrical version. Often times they’ve shed 1 or 2 frames per shot and a lot of times it’s been more tightened up than that with a reordering of shots and/or a small deletion here and there. It’s so much more intricate than I ever experienced while working on the Primitive Screwhead Edition which prioritized the original Director’s Cut but with an infusion of audio elements from the US Theatrical and TV Version.

I had an inkling about this in the past, but the majority of the deleted Director’s Cut sequences really were fine-tuned for the U.S. version but those were ultimately deleted for the final US release. They deserve to presented in an uncensored version separate from a recreation of the tv cut.

Time-permitting, I will recreate this lost cut after finishing the recreation of the TV version. You could call it the uncut TV version, but besides restoring censored bits, I will have to make a couple of editorial decisions with two repeated shots in the tv version. Really it’s a lost cut.