Just out of pure curiosity, if the subtitles were extracted from a 35mm print, why was timing for putting them back in taken from the 16mm print? What’s wrong with the timing in the 35mm print they’re extracted from?
Harmy will probably answer eventually, but my assumption would be that he didn’t have access to the entire sequence, and was only provided with the specific frames containing the subtitles?
I’m not entirely sure though that’s just my educated guess.
Just out of pure curiosity, if the subtitles were extracted from a 35mm print, why was timing for putting them back in taken from the 16mm print? What’s wrong with the timing in the 35mm print they’re extracted from?
Nothing. But unlike the 35mm scan, Puggo’s 16mm trasfer just isn’t a huge clunky 4K file that would slow down the entire timeline if put onto it to check for timing - it’s just a matter of convenience and the results are the same.
Also, just to clarify, the subtitles weren’t just re-created based on the 35mm scan - they were literally extracted from it in 4K letter by letter.
Harmy said:
letter by letter
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Could someone please PM me the password for the RAR file (containg the mkv) that is out on the public torrents? Much appreciated and thanks for Harmy for all of the hard work!
The password for the RAR files can be found here:
http://tehparadox.com/forum/f89/harmys-star-wars-trilogy-despecialized-2543089/
I’m finding it impossible to remux the v2.5 AVCHD into a functional mkv. It will mux in mkvmerge without error and look fine in mediainfo but when played in MPC-HT it will show a black screen. If you click in the seek bar it will churn through the file and play after a minute or so, but this is abnormal behaviour. MakeMKV throws an error as well and refuses to mux it. Anyone else experience this or have a solution?
Did you try demuxing first?
Did you try demuxing first?
Yes. When I demux the h264 stream before remuxing, the movie does start when it’s double-clicked but it still takes a while to catch up when you click in the seek bar. I notice when muxing im mkvmergeGUI that it takes a long time for the progress bar to show anything, like it’s reading through the entire file, then it shoots up to a hundred percent and takes another minute as it seems to write the file. I do lots of video converting/muxing and this is definitely unusual behaviour. I analyzed it in avinaptic and it showed a lot of buffer overflows:
Selected profile DivX 720HD
Resolution Ok
Framerate 23.976024 <> 30
Buffer underflow 00:12:38 (frame 18173)
Buffer underflow 00:12:39 (frame 18204)
Buffer underflow 00:12:41 (frame 18234)
Buffer underflow 00:12:49 (frame 18449)
Buffer underflow 00:13:02 (frame 18759)
Buffer underflow 00:13:04 (frame 18808)
Buffer underflow 00:13:06 (frame 18843)
Buffer underflow 00:13:45 (frame 19769)
Buffer underflow 00:29:09 (frame 41925)
Buffer underflow 00:29:11 (frame 41973)
Buffer underflow 00:29:12 (frame 42014)
Buffer underflow 00:29:28 (frame 42390)
Buffer underflow 00:31:14 (frame 44930)
Buffer underflow 00:32:03 (frame 46097)
Buffer underflow 00:32:07 (frame 46198)
Buffer underflow 00:32:09 (frame 46259)
Buffer underflow 00:32:11 (frame 46287)
Buffer underflow 00:32:28 (frame 46709)
Buffer underflow 00:32:39 (frame 46970)
Buffer underflow 00:32:42 (frame 47048)
Error Too many violations
Bless you Harmy. That. is. all.
Just finished watching this (after 2 days of downloading at 45kb/s…thank you, dying modem) and…oh my god it’s absolutely wonderful.
I’m a bit too young to have had the privilege to see these films in theater, but I was raised on the '95 VHS releases. Jedi was always my favorite, and I’ve never been this excited to re-watch a film. The wait was entirely worth it.
Thank you for all the hard work and dedication bringing these films back to life, Harmy. You are a true saint.
What, a man builds a giant mound of dirt in his house and you aren’t entertained?
First of all, Harmy, v2.5 looks spectacular. Well done! Thank you so much
Is it just me, or is the audio out of sync? I think the audio is behind the video a bit. I notice this whenever a human is talking, but also at the beginning of the opening crawl (“STAR WARS” is noticeably displayed before the audio comes in). I’ve only tested the MKV with the 5.1 audio - I can test the other audio tracks and the AVCHD when I get home tonight. I’ve tested on two different PC’s, using Plex and Kodi.
Did you try demuxing first?
Yes. When I demux the h264 stream before remuxing, the movie does start when it’s double-clicked but it still takes a while to catch up when you click in the seek bar. I notice when muxing im mkvmergeGUI that it takes a long time for the progress bar to show anything, like it’s reading through the entire file, then it shoots up to a hundred percent and takes another minute as it seems to write the file. I do lots of video converting/muxing and this is definitely unusual behaviour. I analyzed it in avinaptic and it showed a lot of buffer overflows:
Selected profile DivX 720HD
Resolution Ok
Framerate 23.976024 <> 30
Buffer underflow 00:12:38 (frame 18173)
Buffer underflow 00:12:39 (frame 18204)
Buffer underflow 00:12:41 (frame 18234)
Buffer underflow 00:12:49 (frame 18449)
Buffer underflow 00:13:02 (frame 18759)
Buffer underflow 00:13:04 (frame 18808)
Buffer underflow 00:13:06 (frame 18843)
Buffer underflow 00:13:45 (frame 19769)
Buffer underflow 00:29:09 (frame 41925)
Buffer underflow 00:29:11 (frame 41973)
Buffer underflow 00:29:12 (frame 42014)
Buffer underflow 00:29:28 (frame 42390)
Buffer underflow 00:31:14 (frame 44930)
Buffer underflow 00:32:03 (frame 46097)
Buffer underflow 00:32:07 (frame 46198)
Buffer underflow 00:32:09 (frame 46259)
Buffer underflow 00:32:11 (frame 46287)
Buffer underflow 00:32:28 (frame 46709)
Buffer underflow 00:32:39 (frame 46970)
Buffer underflow 00:32:42 (frame 47048)
Error Too many violations
It’s trying to play it with the DivX (MPEG4-ASP) directshow codec and not H.264 (MPEG4-AVC). MPC-HC has its own codecs. You don’t need CCCP, ffdshow or anything like that to play it back, use the internal codecs:
http://www.ezoden.com/htpc/11/mpc-hc-internal-filters
If that doesn’t work try VLC which only uses its own codecs.
First of all, Harmy, v2.5 looks spectacular. Well done! Thank you so much
Is it just me, or is the audio out of sync? I think the audio is behind the video a bit. I notice this whenever a human is talking, but also at the beginning of the opening crawl (“STAR WARS” is noticeably displayed before the audio comes in). I’ve only tested the MKV with the 5.1 audio - I can test the other audio tracks and the AVCHD when I get home tonight. I’ve tested on two different PC’s, using Plex and Kodi.
Some software players have trouble decoding DTS-HD fast enough, and it ends up lagging behind the video. I haven’t noticed anything. Try an AC3 track, which is less decoder-intensive.
First of all, Harmy, v2.5 looks spectacular. Well done! Thank you so much
Is it just me, or is the audio out of sync? I think the audio is behind the video a bit. I notice this whenever a human is talking, but also at the beginning of the opening crawl (“STAR WARS” is noticeably displayed before the audio comes in). I’ve only tested the MKV with the 5.1 audio - I can test the other audio tracks and the AVCHD when I get home tonight. I’ve tested on two different PC’s, using Plex and Kodi.
Some software players have trouble decoding DTS-HD fast enough, and it ends up lagging behind the video. >I haven’t noticed anything. Try an AC3 track, which is less decoder-intensive.
Playback on a Raspberry Pi2 using Kodi works for me with the DTS-HD 5.1 track so I don’t know if this is the issue and jzilli said he/she tried Kodi.
Also, I don’t have any issues with the MKV’s of SW and ESB, which also use DTS-HD for the 5.1 tracks.
With Plex, I tried Plex Home Theater and Plex Media Player. This was on a Core i7 system.
Often it’s not a matter of hardware. Most software just decodes the lossy core of the DTSMA track, but if you have something special that may be trying to decode the lossless file, it could be making a mess of it. Which is why I asked you to see if an AC3 track synced OK. The 93 English AC3 track is within a few milliseconds of in sync with the 5.1 DTS-MA track. If the decoder isn’t the problem, they should have the exact same sync issues.
Hey Harmy, first of all thanks for all the work you have done to preserve these films. I can’t tell you how grateful I am.
I watched most of Return of the Jedi last night and I couldn’t help but noticing an issue with the blacks. They look severely crushed in 2.5. I thought this might be due to the source material with the BluRay, but then I looked at version 1.0 and the blacks didn’t look as crushed there. In some scenes it’s more obvious than others, but this is a glaring issue to me and I surprised no one else has brought it up. I also felt as though the brightness level is set a little too low. Again, comparing it to 1.0 where the brightness level felt right. Fleshtones and overall colors are a bit too red for me personally, especially on the Endor scenes. Han looks like he’s spent three years on a tanning bed, not frozen in carbonite. I saw a print of Jedi about 4 years ago and I don’t remember it looking like this. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
No links here, dude. Thems the rules.
Indeed, first complaining too much about the sanctioned distribution methods, then getting over enthusiastic for public trackers, now breaking the rules and posting direct links to the files. Seriously rein in your misguided enthusiasm and take that link down before an admin makes you sorry for doing it. Doing this crap puts the entire site in a compromised position.
For the Chapter geeks amongst us… (apologies if already posted)
Harmy’s DeSpecialized Edition (v2.5) Return Of The Jedi - .mkv Chapter Times:-
1 Opening Logos 00:00:00
2 Return Of The Jedi 00:00:21
3 Vader’s Unexpected Visit 00:01:56
4 Arrival at Jabba’s Palace 00:05:01
5 A Message and a Gift 00:08:11
6 The Max Rebo Band 00:12:23
7 The Price for Chewbacca 00:13:56
8 Free From the Carbonite 00:17:08
9 Enter the Jedi 00:21:42
10 “Oh No! The Rancor!” 00:24:40
11 On the Sail Barge 00:29:09
12 The Sarlacc Pit 00:30:45
13 The Emperor Arrives 00:36:59
14 Yoda’s Twilight 00:38:47
15 A Certain Point of View 00:44:32
16 Rebel Briefing 00:47:38
17 Lending the Falcon 00:50:50
18 The Emperor’s Instructions 00:52:47
19 Flying Casual 00:53:39
20 Arrival on Endor 00:56:09
21 Speeder Bike Chase 00:57:58
22 Leia Meets Wicket 01:01:55
23 Vader’s Report 01:05:33
24 An Ewok Trap 01:07:01
25 The Golden God 01:11:15
26 Campfire Stories 01:15:07
27 Brother and Sister 01:17:29
28 Luke Surrenders 01:21:45
29 Rebel Recon 01:25:21
30 The Alliance Fleet 01:26:06
31 Back Door 01:27:05
32 Luke and the Emperor 01:29:19
33 “It’s A Trap!” 01:32:33
34 Ewok Attack 01:35:55
35 Fully Operational 01:39:39
36 The Battle Rages 01:41:37
37 The Dark Side Beckons 01:43:42
38 The Ewoks Turn the Tide 01:44:41
39 Father vs. Son 01:47:56
40 Taking the Bunker 01:59:55
41 A Jedi’s Fury 01:50:51
42 The Shield Is Down 01:53:51
43 Force Lightning 01:54:22
44 Vader’s Redemption 01:55:12
45 Into the Death Star 01:56:54
46 Anakin Unmasked 01:58:48
47 Death Star Destroyed 02:01:13
48 Funeral Pyre 02:04:04
49 Celebration 02:04:41
50 End Credits 02:06:29
51 DeSpecialized Credits 02:11:46
Running time - 2hr 13m 21s (134 mins)
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… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.
It looks beautiful. Thanks for the hard work.
Edit: There, it aint a link anymore
You know better than that. We joke a lot here, but not about this. Take it down properly. (We know you’re excited, and you can say that it is hosted in places you like, just don’t show how to get to it directly.)
I have yet to watch RotJ 2.5, but thanks for your efforts and work, Harmy!
HALELUJAH
Edit: There, it aint a link anymore
You’re not funny, wise-ass. Take that fake link down now.
What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.