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I agree that so long as the original verision is available, then DCs or SEs are fine. James Cameron understood the difference between a DC and a SE and he was adamant about the right term being applied to his releases. He always took responsibility for his theatrical releases as his own edit, despite how much studio pressure was on him to make the edits. It's why the Alien Director's Cut is a misnomer, while the Aliens Special Edition is properly termed. Ridley Scott got his preferred cut into the the theater, and then 25 years later created a SE out of bonus footage and better skill as an editor. The Alien Directors Cut is really the Alien Special Edition and should be called such. The Blade Runner Director's Cut is a true director's cut, because he never wanted the voiceover (which I like) nor the happy ending (which I hate). Too bad Blade Runner's theatrical cut isn't officially released onto DVD.

Side note/Gripe: What really pisses me off about DVD marketing is when all of these so-called "special editions" are released that are in no way different from the theatrical release. Having a bunch of great bonus features does not make it a "special edition." That just makes it a good DVD. Put in one different shot and its a special edition.

I think that some grey area exists with respect to the mattes around FX shots. Cleaning up the mattes was more an issue of computer-based color correction and matching, rather than changing a shot. After all, the mattes didn't show up on the silver screen, only on the TV screen. Lightsaber corrections, as much as they were needed in ANH, are still changes, though, and probably deserve the SE designation. I'm on the fence here.

Adding in deleted scenes, swapping shots, and screwing with existing ones make a SE.

Lucas should be labelling the Star Wars DVD as the 2004 Special Edition. He should have make a friggin' seamless branching disc that had all three editions available. If T2 could do it five years ago, Lucas could have and should have done it now. Arrogant revisionism, plain and simple.
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Which is exactly what I've been saying since the forums opened. Nice to see someone of a similar mind among the newer recruits.

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I think the bottom line is that we are unhappy over what Lucas inserted or added into the original trilogy. That is the main complaint. I don't think many pple would have complained about the deletion of the ridiculous Ewok "hallelujah-stylle" chorus at the end of the Jedi. Nor would any of us have complained if Lucas had improved on the death Star space battles in Star Wars (ANH whatever) by removing the pilots' crappy targetting displays or threw in more starfighters etc...

Heck maybe one day it might be possible to digitially remove Jar-jar binks and the silly little boy actor - but would any of us complain I wonder? Heck I'd be the first one cheering them on!!!!
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Me thinks you may want to seek out the MagnoliaFan Edits of Episodes 1 & 2 - much less annoying JarJar, and less annoying kiddies Anaakin - with a host of other improvements to boot

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The Blade Runner Director's Cut is a true director's cut, because he never wanted the voiceover (which I like) nor the happy ending (which I hate).


not quite true. there's much evidence to support the suggestion that scott was happy enough with the v/o when he made the film, and that the so-called "director's cut" was but his first instance of revisionism as an after thought. (at least it's been made pretty clear that the alien dc is nothing of the sort, and scott has stated very openly that it was merely an excuse to get the movie back in cinemas.)

the story as i understand it is that a slightly unfinished workprint of blade runner was doing a circuit around 1991, which scott heard about and thought was closer to his intentions (i.e. without the happy ending) than the theatrical cut. the lack of v/o was something he'd come to like since the original release, and of course the unicorn dream was something he'd wanted all along.

however, even the 1992 cut isn't a true dc, as scott's time budget was too short for him to reinstate various deleted scenes, which remain absent. i gather he's still keen on putting together a true dc for dvd, and indeed this was in the works around the time the 2-disc legend release came out, but never materialised for whatever reason.

which is a shame, as it was going to feature the theatrical cut as well.
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Originally posted by: yauming
Heck maybe one day it might be possible to digitially remove Jar-jar binks and the silly little boy actor - but would any of us complain I wonder? Heck I'd be the first one cheering them on!!!!


only because nobody here likes that particular movie. if it ain't broke, don't fix it: and the original trilogy, warts and all, are good enough to withstand the occasional weakness.

mind you, even the above suggestions wouldn't be enough to save tpm. something of a complete rewrite of the script, followed by a completely new production under the leadership of a totally different director might do for a start... or else cut out all the dull and pointless bits, which i admit leaves us with a five-minute movie!
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Originally posted by: ChickenEater
mind you, even the above suggestions wouldn't be enough to save tpm. something of a complete rewrite of the script, followed by a completely new production under the leadership of a totally different director might do for a start... or else cut out all the dull and pointless bits, which i admit leaves us with a five-minute movie!


I have tossed around that idea, of writing a total replacement for the Prequel Trilogy, according to my own spec, based mainly on the OOT, the novels, and the Zahn trilogy.

I have a number of ideas, but lack the facility for organizing them coherently.

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In response to a quesiton by Jeffrey Schmid, I have no idea why Kershner didn't do ROTJ, but I assume its for the same reason that Lucas couldn't have his long time pal Steven Spielberg do it - because at the time Lucas was having a dispute with the director's guild over how the credits rolled in his film [or something like that] and so he couldn't sign an American director; he eventually settled for Richard Marquand, after being turned down by famed Canadian horror/sci-fi director David Cronenberg and the "Dune" director David Lynch.

Richard Marquand, I'm sorry to say, died a few years after he made "Return of the Jedi".
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