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My DVD version of the O-OT is certainly better than any version that George will never make.

Check your PMs, kris.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Outstanding effort, MeBeJedi!! Well done!
40,000 million notches away
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Just like to use my first to give “Mad props ” to MeBeJedi for all the work he has put into this, it sounds like it going to be something special

I really hope you manage to perfect an anamorphic picture with this set
As for the Dolby Digital debate, if you have space on the disc for it Please leave it on. I’m sure there are many people who don’t have PLII on their amps who would greatly appreciate this. Myself included!

All the Best
We Got Death Star!
We Got Death Star!
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Originally posted by: Kristhemovieman
mebejedi drop me a line if you want to make some extra cash!!!

need a menu designer for the second edition dual press edition
Kris why don't you just ask him to make you a Dual-Layer version and start pressing that, I'm sure it's better than anything coming your way anyway?

MEBEJEDI, I have some comments. For the menus why not use the original logos? That means the Star on top of Wars logo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/Meksilon/s_w/logo_1.png

Slanted Empire Strikes Back logo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/Meksilon/s_w/logo_2b.png

-or-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/Meksilon/s_w/logo_2.png

And Return of the Jedi like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/Meksilon/s_w/logo_3.png
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Great work MeBeJedi. I knew you could do it. I've been at this off and on for two years and you have surpassed my efforts. I made the mistake of capturing mine with S-Video cable which introduced dot crawl everywhere. I may try that dot crawl removal filter, but I plan to recapture and start from scratch. Also, your menus and everything blow mine away.

I do want to pass on what I did concerning the slideshows on from the DC LD's. I didn't like how you kept having to press the step or forward button to change the pictures. So, what I did is capture all of the pictures while I pressed the button. I tried to wait around 5 seconds each time. What I did then, was use Virtual Dub and edit the capture file where each picture was 1 frame. I also split each group of pictures by subject, i.e. Droids, etc. I then used a photo editor to get rid of the interference that appeared at the bottoms of some of the pictures. Finally, I loaded the pictures into DVD-Lab which has a slideshow creation function where you can set the duration and other settings. I know other software can do this as well.

I put all of the slideshows on my extras disc which is divided into 3 sections. Each section is dedicated to one of the films. I used IFO Edit to create a Play All button since DVD-Lab didn't have that back then. I think they are supposed to make that function available in the future. My DVD is designed so that you can play one of the slideshows or all of them. I gave the slideshows their own submenus. I also divided the interviews up in a similar fashion. The only thing I didn't do was correct the volume level of them. I plan to do that next time since the volume of the interviews is inconsistent.

Just thought I would pass that along.

Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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Kris why don't you just ask him to make you a Dual-Layer version and start pressing that, I'm sure it's better than anything coming your way anyway?


MeBeJedi cannot burn to dual layer DVD's (yet)

I'm sure he may have something up his sleeves though

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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How about using MeBeJedi's version on one layer with supplements and menus on the other layer there by avoiding any current layer change problems during the actual movie? Just a thought.
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No offense, MeBeJedi, but the menus could be a little better.
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It doesn't really matter Rik, he can just spread the VIDEO_TS folder over two DVD-R's. They look very promising indeed just on DVD-R, so I'm sure they'll look brilliant on DVD9. I do hope MeBeJedi does not put "directed by MEBEJEDI" in it though, this is about preserving the O-OT, not poaching and branding. Also, MeBeJedi, as much as your version will probably be the best so-far, I think you should recognize that you've learnt from what others have done - their trial and errors, their advice from experience, their attempts - and what you've done is taken the next step. So claiming these to be "your versions" is about as sane as lucas claiming the 2004 are "his versions" when he's taken the work from so many people before him and just added (or subtracted) to it.

Therefore it would be a good idea not to put your brand even in the menus. However it's up to you - I'm just saying if it was me, I wouldn't put my name or title in it anywhere.
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"I really hope you manage to perfect an anamorphic picture with this set"

As I've said before, this part is very easy.

"I made the mistake of capturing mine with S-Video cable which introduced dot crawl everywhere. I may try that dot crawl removal filter, but I plan to recapture and start from scratch. Also, your menus and everything blow mine away."

Yeah, I tried that too. It really depends on your equipment. As you can see, composite capture is not inherently bad. Again, I highly recommend the WinTVGO model 190. This $40 workhorse did it all (with third-party drivers.)

"I do want to pass on what I did concerning the slideshows on from the DC LD's. I didn't like how you kept having to press the step or forward button to change the pictures. So, what I did is capture all of the pictures while I pressed the button. I tried to wait around 5 seconds each time. What I did then, was use Virtual Dub and edit the capture file where each picture was 1 frame. I also split each group of pictures by subject, i.e. Droids, etc. I then used a photo editor to get rid of the interference that appeared at the bottoms of some of the pictures. Finally, I loaded the pictures into DVD-Lab which has a slideshow creation function where you can set the duration and other settings. I know other software can do this as well."

I've captured the pics as well (they're somewhere on my hard drives ), and still haven't decided how to display them as well. It would be nice to have a timer as well as a means of jumping ahead if necessary. I think the latest Beta of DVDLab Pro has changed this. Ultimately, I will like create a page of thumbnails to be selected, as well as an option to play through all the pics in sequence. Best of both worlds, yes?

"MeBeJedi cannot burn to dual layer DVD's (yet). I'm sure he may have something up his sleeves though"

I'll probably take laserman up on his offer to burn one for me (though he, like you, aren't answering my PM's! )

"How about using MeBeJedi's version on one layer with supplements and menus on the other layer there by avoiding any current layer change problems during the actual movie? Just a thought."

Regardless of what other materials are or aren't on the disc, if I up the bitrates of the MPEG, there will be a layer change in the film. It's 2 hours - there's just no getting around it.

"No offense, MeBeJedi, but the menus could be a little better."

None taken...they are just missing some cosmetic touches, but the layout and functionality will remain. This isn't the final version. I just wanted Riktor's opinion on the overall DVD so far.

Hell, most people are just going to watch the films anyways. This was just a way for me to get to specific scenes or commentaries.

"I do hope MeBeJedi does not put "directed by MEBEJEDI" in it though, this is about preserving the O-OT, not poaching and branding."

Well, I wasn't completely serious about "planting my flag", but the XVIDs will have the "MEBEJEDI" ending. It's not like they will be archival quality anyways.

"So claiming these to be "your versions" is about as sane as lucas claiming the 2004 are "his versions" when he's taken the work from so many people before him and just added (or subtracted) to it."

Uhm.....okay. Then perhaps I shouldn't release these DVDs that aren't "my versions" ? Then again, I seem to recall you not wanting menus at all in the first place, so surely "my versions" don't appeal to you, right?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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It's your release, if you can do good menus (and it looks like you indeed can), go for gold son. Sure leave that in the X-VIDs, then at least people have a way of knowing the DVD-R is the original treatment. I wouldn't put the THX logo in, I'd put the LaserDisc logo in instead, it's more of a homage especially since you're not mastering from a digital source (yeah I know the audio's digital). You can put your name in the menus all you want, but I don't think that's the thing people are going to look at and say "wow, it was made by MeBeJedi" - especially if they don't know of the origins and it's just getting passed around, it's just a name to them that will be pretty meaningless. Everyone else already knows where it came from. And like I said before, you've taken the next step on the ladder - you weren't the first and so you built of what other's had done - you learnt from others (and it looks like you've done a bloody good job). Anyhow, good luck finishing the job.
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I think it's a good idea to be able to identify what the name of the bootleg is, so having the "MeBeJedi" name in the DVD menu is a good thing.

I think it would be great to add in the credit menu an image of the actual laserdisc it comes from and the hardware and software used to make the encoding and the authoring of the DVDr...
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None taken...they are just missing some cosmetic touches, but the layout and functionality will remain. This isn't the final version. I just wanted Riktor's opinion on the overall DVD so far.


I hate PM's - email is the best for me

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Originally posted by: ZombieFlanders
Rikter: I'd love to see a picture of your DVD rack, or at least the Star Wars portion of it. Your wife must have the patience of a monk.


- I'll be putting a picture up for ya'll once I get my LD's back from my buddy and as for my wife... She is also a Star Wars fan so it's easy - I mean how often does that happen

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Originally posted by: Rikter

- I'll be putting a picture up for ya'll once I get my LD's back from my buddy and as for my wife... She is also a Star Wars fan so it's easy - I mean how often does that happen


That only happens in the movies man........ Check your neck, I'm sure there's a ILM-brand there somewhere

"These are the moments I live for.
I put up with all the other crap just to get seconds like this.
The moments when you know the world is a better place than advertised."
-Planetary, Warren Ellis
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Hey MeBeJedi,

Your dedication to this project (which will benefit us ALL) is truly great!

A few questions/comments:

How does the detail/sharpness of the image look in comparison to the TR47 and Gonzo versions (I have the Gonzo versions and they look soft to me)?. It's really hard to get a good indication from screen caps.

Here's what I would personally like to see from your versions:
1. Separate regular letterbox AND anamorphic transfers (that way everyone is happy). I'd like both actually!
2. ONLY PCM audio. All remaining space for the the movies themselves.
3. Dual layer discs (+R format works for me ).
4. No doctoring of the actual film credits.

But do put your name in the menus. After all, without your hard work we obviously wouldn't have these to enjoy at all!

Cheers,
The Dean
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Here's my thought on "branding" your set: I like to watch movies, even if they are bootlegs, as if they were not. It detracts from my viewing experience, IMHO, if the fact that it is a bootleg is called to my attention. Therefore, I am inherently against "branding" your version at all. BUT, it is your set, so do whatever the hell you want!
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"it's just a name to them that will be pretty meaningless."

I guess you've not noticed people always asking about the "TR47" DVDs, or the "Magnolia Fan" DVDs around the 'Net? I know I have.

Besides, it won't be meaningless to me.

"I think it's a good idea to be able to identify what the name of the bootleg is, so having the "MeBeJedi" name in the DVD menu is a good thing."

Someone else gets it.

"I think it would be great to add in the credit menu an image of the actual laserdisc it comes from and the hardware and software used to make the encoding and the authoring of the DVDr..."

DUDE?!? Get out of my mind! Lol!

I was actually thinking of creating an "easter egg" - a hidden "Thank You" menu listing hardware used, people involved, etc. I have a great statement for Lucas, himself.

"I hate PM's - email is the best for me"

I wish you'd told me that sooner!

"How does the detail/sharpness of the image look in comparison to the TR47 and Gonzo versions (I have the Gonzo versions and they look soft to me)?. It's really hard to get a good indication from screen caps."

I agree with you that screencaps just don't do it, but I've never seen an SW bootleg before! I've just never been interested in the "suspect" quality of them. I've seen bootlegs of other films, and they sucked tremendously. I don't just want a "copy" of a film, I want to "experience" the film.

That's why I wanted Riktor's opinion. I simply set out to make the best copy I could possibly make. Apparently, I succeeded.

"1. Separate regular letterbox AND anamorphic transfers (that way everyone is happy). I'd like both actually!"

The XVIDs will definitely be 4X3, and I will probably maintain this master for 4X3 DVDs as well, so after I finish the anamorphic, both will exist. (Technically, I could push a button and have the anamorphic version in a day, but I want to clean up the visuals - that's what's going to take a while.

"2. ONLY PCM audio. All remaining space for the the movies themselves."

The PCM takes up 1.2 Gbs. The DD is 332 Mbs. It doesn't affect the quality near as much as people are led to believe. My DVD had 3 soundtracks, and yet Riktor was floored by the visual quality.

"Here's my thought on "branding" your set:"

The funny thing is, I only included the final credits for the soundtrack because I like to listen to it. I didn't realize people held the visual quality of those last 5 minutes as dear to their hearts as the prior 115. Go figure...

Kinda makes me wonder if there's anyone out there who has the credits memorized.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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DUDE?!? Get out of my mind! Lol!

I was actually thinking of creating an "easter egg" - a hidden "Thank You" menu listing hardware used, people involved, etc. I have a great statement for Lucas, himself.


Yes, I can control your mind... add my name in the "thank you" list

No, seriously, I simply can't wait for your bootleg any longer! and I think the idea of adding a great statement for Lucas is
pure genious. Go for it!!!!

Great work!
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MeBeJedi-

Your devotion to this project is amazing and greatly welcomed. All your hard work will surely be appreciated amongst those that participate in this forum. As for your credit, once it is created, it will be the "MEBEJEDI" edition already as we are sure to talk, brag, defend, and mob you for our own sets once they are available.......... lmao. But all humor aside, the other sets didn't come with "branding" and yet all are well known to those who care like ourselves. Adding the "easter eggs" with production materials, thanks to, and your own personal tag is a fantastic idea. It will make your edition singular in a world of many others......

I believe in the effort as much as the product of that labor, god speed MeBeJedi...............knocks us off our socks!!!!!!!

I am "in" when the time comes for you to release this, just as I am honoured to be surrounded by the menagerie of devout fans in this forum..........have at it and make us and yourself proud........

The OT RULES!!!!

( This is MY opinion and I'M sticking to it!!!! )
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Once again - great work MeBeJedi

I look forward to the day when your letterbox and anamorphic versions of the OT join my TR47 Letterbox and Dr Gonzo Anamorphic versions on my dvd shelf.

It should make the designers who do great work on the DVD covers here fret a little though - perhaps you'll all have individual logos that can be copied and pasted onto the covers- to identify the different sets?

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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I hope so. I'm not in any hurry to tackle something as difficult as making DVD labels.

[EDIT] Strike that. Maybe I should start learning how to do that right now!

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Hello everyone, I got the "official" Extra Special Edition versions of the OT on DVD Friday and sat down today to take screen shots of various "bootlegs" for comparison. I have currently only done screen shots of "A New Hope". Here is a list of the "transfers" I am using:

George Lucas "official" Versions
MeBeJedi
TR47
Dr Gonzo

I thought if anything this would be great for comparing the currently available "bootlegs" that are out there as well as MeBeJedi's great new set. Since I don't yet have a MeBeJedi set I opted to use the screen shots he posted earlier (hope you don't mind). I then did screen grabs of all the transfers listed above using the same scenes MeBeJedi had done to aid in our comparison.

Unfortunately, I have no where to post the images and while I have in the past used a FREE host site for another forum, it will not take pictures as large as I have and I don't want to compress them more and risk sacrificing quality.

If anyone wants to host the images for me or knows of a FREE Image Hosting Site I can use please let me know.

Each image is between 150k and 250k. The total size is 3.09MB all together.

Please PM me if you can help.

Thanks
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"Since I don't yet have a MeBeJedi set I opted to use the screen shots he posted earlier (hope you don't mind)."

Not a problem. If there are other scenes you want, let me know.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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BadAsh71, I can host the file for you. Send me a PM if you still need hosting.

-Obi
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