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I am HUGE Star Trek fan. ST played a big factor in my parents hooking up, as they were both fans back in the day; how nerdy is that? I grew up with TNG, and have so many of those Playmates toys its not even funny. I've read countless reference books and novels, and even had a uniform when I was a kid. I was a total Trek geek. Anyway, as I grew older and established a social life for myself, I've found many open Star Wars fans, but very very few Trek people, so naturally I grew away from my Trek roots and started becoming the uber-Star Wars nerd who posts before you today. DS9 re-runs got me re-interested in Trek a couple years back, as it is an EXCELLENT show (btw, add "Children of Time" to Jay's list; it's DS9's "City on the Edge of Forever"), however I draw the line there. VOY and ENT had great potential, but were incredibly dissapointing. As for the movies, 2, 3, and 4 make a wonderful trilogy, 6 is great too, 5 is really underrated, the Director's Cut of TMP helps a lot, and FC is in a class of its own in the TNG era, as unfortunately their other 3 films failed to deliver. And I'm in total agreement with you all about taking a hiatus. Voyager shouldn't have debuted until Deep Space Nine concluded, and they should have taken it from there. Now, we'll just have to wait and see if Trek has anything left in the tank after 10 films and over 500 episodes.
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i'm starting to watch ST on scifi can yo help me out is there like anything i should know
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someone made a comment about using saavik instead of valaris in 6 and i gotta say i agree. It would have given the character the motive she needed to do what she would have done.

Plus it would follow some of the things that spock said to her in 2 and 3 and 4.
"Who's scruffy-lookin'?" - Han Solo
"I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself." -sybeman
"You know, putting animals in the microwave is not a good idea. I had to learn that one the hard way." -seanwookie
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I've been a huge fan of Star Wars and Star Trek for about the smae amount of time - as long as I can remember. I feel that recently it has tailed off a little and could do with a break. The last two films weren't exactly the best, and while I don't hate Enterprise, it isn't exactly compulsive viewing.

DS9 is by far my favourite TV series of all time. My favourite eps:

Duet
Defiant
The Visitor
Hard Time
A Call to Arms
Rocks and Shoals
In the Pale Moonlight

I'm a big fan of the originals and TNG as well, though Voyager never really did much for me. The Year of Hell 2 parter was great, but apart from that I thought it was a really misjudged attempt at a series.
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i'm watching the movies and i heard from a helpful source at blockbuster to watch the even numerd trek movies and i just seen the wrath of khan
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dani1138 - a shame they never followed up on the Defiant episode. I heard the writers had something in mind - but never got around to it.

klingon_jedi - I remember the first time I saw In The Pale Moonlight - was just blown away by the power of the story and it's deliverence by Brooks. It certainly opened up all sorts of possibilites to what was going to happen in the Dominon War, and to the characters in general.

Commander Courage - Children Of Time - forgot about that gem of an episode, a welcome change to the War arc - more Trek episodes like this powerful story would be most welcome - tho I think TIIC would shy away from this type of premise now.

Sean Wookie - glad you're giving Trek a go, m8. The even numbered rule is a good way to go - tho don't expect too much in Insurrection. Season 3 of DS9 onwards is quite easy to pick up, lots of foreshadwoing , arcs and great episodes all start here, if you enjoy 'em can always give the 1st 2 seasons a go too.



For any fans of Trek I'd recommend trying to get hold of the DS9 Companion book - an ep guide and views of the cast, writers and producers - all brutally honest in thier assessment of what worked and what didn't and how the series evolved. Also of interest is the original ending of the series which was changed due to Berman objecting to it.

I wonder how it would have faired if it was being made today - subjects such as faith, beliefs, religious extremism, terrorism, biochemical weapons, cloning, gene alterations and war etc would surely have been watered down in the current world climate - esp given the way the majority of VOY and ENT episodes have so far been very bland of making a social comment of any sort - let alone entertaining us fans.

On a side note it was good to have seen such strong recurring guest actors such as Andrew Robinson, Casey Biggs, Jeffrey Combs and Marc Alaimo and given strong storylines and dialogue in a series. A definate bonus to the overall feel and tone of the series.

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Originally posted by: oojason
For any fans of Trek I'd recommend trying to get hold of the DS9 Companion book - an ep guide and views of the cast, writers and producers - all brutally honest in thier assessment of what worked and what didn't and how the series evolved. Also of interest is the original ending of the series which was changed due to Berman objecting to it.

I've kept a look out at Half-Price Books for it, but to no avail. Looks like I'll just have to break down and pay retail.

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I wonder how it would have faired if it was being made today - subjects such as faith, beliefs, religious extremism, terrorism, biochemical weapons, cloning, gene alterations and war etc would surely have been watered down in the current world climate - esp given the way the majority of VOY and ENT episodes have so far been very bland of making a social comment of any sort - let alone entertaining us fans.

Well the way I understand it, Berman and Braga pretty much let Ira Steven Behr and crew do whatever they wanted with the show (within reason, of course) while they focused their attention on Voyager. This in turn, resulted in a far superior product. However, if DS9 was in Enterprise's shoes, as the only Trek show currently on the air, I agree that it wouldn't be half the show it is, working too hard on appealing to the pop-culture of the day than telling good, meaningful stories.
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^ aye, Ron Moore stated many times that thankfully Berman and the other TPTB focused their attentions on VOY and the movies leaving Behr to be in charge of the 'red headed child of Trek' (due to it's treatment by Paramount).

Moore's interviews on Trek are worth a read - there is a good comprehensive one on ign.com and a few links to others at trekbbs.com He's quite honest about his time on Trek - including his short time on VOY. Behr has also done an interview for ign - but alsa they havn't published it yet - would be most intriguing to hear his views...

It certainly make me think that Trek may have been in better hands under the leadership of Behr instead of Berman over the past years.

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Originally posted by: oojason
It certainly make me think that Trek may have been in better hands under the leadership of Behr instead of Berman over the past years.

Oh, there's no question that Behr/ Moore are right up there with Meyer/Bennet and Roddenberry/Coon as Trek's best creative forces.