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MY Ultimate/Final/Archival Editions

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By now, we are all well aware of the changes Lucas has implimented to the OT for their release on DVD. There've been rumors of this for years of course, but now the Ultimate/Final/Archival editions (call them what you will, but they CERTAINLY aren't the originals) are finally here. A little after AotC came out, I sat down and watched the OT for the sole purpose of compiling THIS list, MY list of what I'd like to see in the updated versions of the OT. It's VERY in-depth, but I've noticed that's the way you like things around here, which is fine by me. I've been lurking around for a while, btw, and this is my first post. So hi everybody, I'm Commander Courage, and here is my list:

(For the record, I love the original versions of the films, however, I have no problem with updating them as long as the theatrical versions remain intact and available, and I suspect that this is the general concensus here as well.)

A NEW HOPE
-Insert a faint Imperial March into the 'music-free slot' when Vader looks around the Blockade Runner.
-Clean-up or re-dub both Vader's breathing and dialogue to match the other movies. This really, really bugs me, and is sure to bug me even more when RotS comes out and Vader sounds as clear as ever.
-Digitally add the tombstones (from AotC) into the Lars Homestead.
-The activation & color of Luke's lightsaber in Ben's House need to be fixed.
-Insert The Imperial March into first shot of Death Star.
-Insert The Imperial March into shot of Death Star after the burning homestead scene, and have it continue on into the interrogation scene.
-Insert a Dug (Sebulba?) into the Cantina; either in the lizardman/wolfman slot or the elephantman/wolfman slot.
-Change arm in Cantina so it has no blood. And make it a hoof to match what we see in the longshots.
-Show Ben's saber tuning on & off; no more of these off-screen sound effects!
-HAN SHOOTS FIRST!
-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star after the Cantina.
-Change Jabba's voice & appearence to match TPM & RotJ.
-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star over Alderaan.
-Following that shot, insert a scene with Bail Organa talking to another Rebel Leader via hologram (Ackbar?), possibly about Leia's dissapearance and the Death Star. Then cut to Tarkin lookiing at Alderaan on the viewscreen.
-Insert a shot of the Death Star blocking out the sun on Alderaan, with Bail Organa and other looking up in horror. Then cut to the activation of the superweapon.
-Fix the activation, deactivation, and color of Luke's saber on the Falcon. It's freakin' WHITE!
-Change the seeker ball to CG (like in AotC).
-In the scene where the dude comes in and says the Rebels are on Dantooine, change the timing of Vader's line to match his gesture.
-MAYBE insert a scene where Vader reports to the Emperor after detecting Obi-Wan. It makes perfect sense that he would contact Palpatine after storming off ("I sense something, a presence I've not felt since..."). Then have Palpatine tell Vader to be wary and inform Tarkin (He is here...).
-Insert a faint Imperial March when Vader is walking through the Death Star halls.
-Make the Diaogna look more realistic.
-Re-dub all the Stormtrooper lines with Temura Morrrison. This goes for the whole trilogy, including Boba.
-Improve the Vader/Kenobi duel. Some dramatic music (possibly the same from their SW3 duel?) would be nice. Also, fix saber effects (both optical and audio) so they match the other films. The saber effetcs are really bad, and the sounds of this duel are WAY different from the others.
-Change the gunport sequence; possibly more TIEs or have the Falcon be moving (I always thought this sequence was boring).
-Show the Falcon going to hyperspace before Vader says, "They've just made the jump into hyperspace."
-Change Death Star plans in Rebel Breifing to match the ones in AotC.
-Update the graphics on the Death Star.
-Change a couple of the explosions on the Death Star; some of them still look not-so-good. (Other than that I think the space battle looks great. It's amazing how good CGI can be when time and effort is put into it.)
-Insert a scene where Vader goes to Coruscant to report to Palpatine, like Dooku does in AotC. This would take place between Luke's landing the awards ceremony. On a landing pad at the Imperial Palace, the Sith Lords would discuss the death of Obi-Wan, the destruction of the Death Star, and the rise of a new enemy, Luke Skywalker. The ESB conversation would have be altered to go along with this one.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
-Fix the Taun-Taun effects. Some are good, but others need improvement.
-After Luke cuts the Wampa's arm off, there's a lightsaber deactivation noise, but Luke's saber stays on; have it turn off.
-Add a few more AT-STs to the Battle of Hoth (to sort of establish them for RotJ).
-MAYBE add more Snowtrooper/Rebel soldier fighting into the Battle of Hoth.
-Add a few more background monsters to Dagobah; "Massive lifeforms readings...".
-Change Luke's line back to "You're lucky you don't taste very good."
-In the scene where you see Vader's head, make it so he's watching a hologram of Padme. Audio would be the best way to do this, since you can't really see into Vader's chamber. I'm hoping she sends him a goodbye letter of sorts in RotS, and this could be used here and in RotJ.
-Change the Emperor to Ian McDiarmid. Change the music to Sith Chants/Emperor's Theme. Change the dialogue if to fit with a new ANH scene.
-Again. re-dub all the Stormtrooper and Boba Fett lines with Temura Morrison.
-Update ALL the windows on Cloud City. The SE is inconsistent; in one shot a window is updated, but in another, it's not.
-Add more training on Dagobah, IF IT WILL FIT. Jumping, lightsaber skills, etc.
-Take out the Emperor's scream as Luke falls. Very funny Ben Burt, now let's change it back please.
-Have the Falcon fight some TIEs as it escapes Cloud City ("What about those fighters?").
-Change Vader's line back to "Bring my shuttle", and take out all the new SE stuff. It's totally useless and interrupts the flow Luke's rescue.
-Flip the reverse frames when Vader & Piett talk about capturing the Falcon back to normal. I have no idea why they did this, but the Imperial uniforms make it obvious.

RETURN OF THE JEDI
-Add some PT aliens to Jabba's Palace.
-Do something about the dance number in Jabba's Palace. The CG really sticks out, so either re-do it or change it back to the original.
-Change some of Boush's lines so "Yoto" doesn't mean everything.
-Take out the *BURP* of the big frog. It can still eat the lizard though.
-The compositing of the Rancor is HORRIBLE! The creature itself looks okay, but when it interacts with Luke, it needs a big upgrade. Don't totally replace it with CG though, just fix the compositing.
-MAYBE extend the Boba/Luke confrontation (with a couple of stunt doubles).
-Add some limbs flying around or something as Luke uses his lightsaber on the Sail Barge; Make it look like he's using a LIGHTSABER, not a stick.
-Insert SOME shot of Han flying the Falcon; during the conversation as they leave Tatooine would do. It's a great injustice we never got to see him flying his baby in the conclusion of the trilogy.
-The Emperor's theme is good, but alter it to incorporate vocals (like in the PT, which sounds even cooler).
-Extend the Luke/Ben conversation, with cut dialogue and all (the parts that fit in with RotS).
-Fix some of the Speeder Bike effects. Most are good, but some still need improvement.
-Insert a scene where Vader is watching the same Padme hologram from MY ESB either right before or right after he tells the Emperor about Luke being on Endor.
-Have 3p0 explain WHY the Ewoks join the Alliance; they're being used for slave labor and loosing their home, e
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Is your real name Lucas? Have people no imagination anymore? Does everything have to be spelled out?
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Commander Courage - Hi and welcome.

I see that some of your observations make sense - tho there will be further edits to come, GL just can't resist tinkering...

IMHO GL has a finalised list of errors and stuff to fix - tho he'll be ticking off fixes to that list over a number of different edits and versions over the coming years.

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Here is MY super-deluxe-ultimate-special-amazing editions...

STAR WARS IV A NEW HOPE - THE SAME VERSION THAT WAS RELEASED IN 1977! (include both THE ORIGINAL mono & stereo audio tracks)

STAR WARS V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - THE SAME VERSION THAT WAS RELEASED IN 1980!

STAR WARS VI RETURN OF THE JEDI - THE SAME VERSION THAT WAS RELEASED IN 1983!

BONUS DISC - INCLUDE ALL THE EXTRAS POSSIBLE!

Thats it. Thats all I ask. If George would just do that, I'd be happy. Then he could go and fuck them up as much as he wants and I won't give a rats ass!

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You know there is one tiny little niggle I've been bothered by since '79. In ANH (obviously), during the escape from Mos Eisley, Han has a line about "knowing a few manouevers...we'll loose 'em". Following which, the Falcon proceeds to fly in a perfectly straight line ahead of the destroyer. What the hell is that?! I'm not asking for Empire-type evasion, but do SOMETHING! It's the ONLY thing I've ever felt needed to be fixed/added/removed, and it seems the absolute LEAST likely to ever be done.
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OK let's see here...


A NEW HOPE
-Insert a faint Imperial March into the 'music-free slot' when Vader looks around the Blockade Runner.
Yeah maybe.

-Clean-up or re-dub both Vader's breathing and dialogue to match the other movies. This really, really bugs me, and is sure to bug me even more when RotS comes out and Vader sounds as clear as ever.
Nah.

-Digitally add the tombstones (from AotC) into the Lars Homestead.
Interesting, but... nah.

-The activation & color of Luke's lightsaber in Ben's House need to be fixed.
Sure.

-Insert The Imperial March into first shot of Death Star.
No way.

-Insert The Imperial March into shot of Death Star after the burning homestead scene, and have it continue on into the interrogation scene.
Hmn... nah.

-Insert a Dug (Sebulba?) into the Cantina; either in the lizardman/wolfman slot or the elephantman/wolfman slot.
Hell no.

-Change arm in Cantina so it has no blood. And make it a hoof to match what we see in the longshots.
Hell no.

-Show Ben's saber tuning on & off; no more of these off-screen sound effects!
Maybe, if they have that alternate shot somewhere...

-HAN SHOOTS FIRST!
OBVIOUSLY

-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star after the Cantina.
Nah. Ok maybe... On a second thought, no.

-Change Jabba's voice & appearence to match TPM & RotJ.
OK. why not.

-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star over Alderaan.
Hmn... no.

-Following that shot, insert a scene with Bail Organa talking to another Rebel Leader via hologram (Ackbar?), possibly about Leia's dissapearance and the Death Star. Then cut to Tarkin lookiing at Alderaan on the viewscreen.
Hell no.


-Insert a shot of the Death Star blocking out the sun on Alderaan, with Bail Organa and other looking up in horror. Then cut to the activation of the superweapon.
That would be interesting if on the original version, but not now.

-Fix the activation, deactivation, and color of Luke's saber on the Falcon. It's freakin' WHITE!
Yeah ok.

-Change the seeker ball to CG (like in AotC).
No, it's good that way.


-In the scene where the dude comes in and says the Rebels are on Dantooine, change the timing of Vader's line to match his gesture.
Maybe. I'd have to watch that scene again.


-MAYBE insert a scene where Vader reports to the Emperor after detecting Obi-Wan. It makes perfect sense that he would contact Palpatine after storming off ("I sense something, a presence I've not felt since..."). Then have Palpatine tell Vader to be wary and inform Tarkin (He is here...).
HELL NO

-Insert a faint Imperial March when Vader is walking through the Death Star halls.
No way!

-Make the Diaogna look more realistic.
Nah. How? CGI?

-Re-dub all the Stormtrooper lines with Temura Morrrison. This goes for the whole trilogy, including Boba.
I'd say no, but...

-Improve the Vader/Kenobi duel. Some dramatic music (possibly the same from their SW3 duel?) would be nice. Also, fix saber effects (both optical and audio) so they match the other films. The saber effetcs are really bad, and the sounds of this duel are WAY different from the others.
Only if this was featured on the original trilogy, then it would kick ass. But not now...

-Change the gunport sequence; possibly more TIEs or have the Falcon be moving (I always thought this sequence was boring).
Maybe.

-Show the Falcon going to hyperspace before Vader says, "They've just made the jump into hyperspace."
Maybe.

-Change Death Star plans in Rebel Breifing to match the ones in AotC.
Uh... no

-Update the graphics on the Death Star.
How?

-Change a couple of the explosions on the Death Star; some of them still look not-so-good. (Other than that I think the space battle looks great. It's amazing how good CGI can be when time and effort is put into it.)
HELL NO


-Insert a scene where Vader goes to Coruscant to report to Palpatine, like Dooku does in AotC. This would take place between Luke's landing the awards ceremony. On a landing pad at the Imperial Palace, the Sith Lords would discuss the death of Obi-Wan, the destruction of the Death Star, and the rise of a new enemy, Luke Skywalker. The ESB conversation would have be altered to go along with this one.
That would be VERY nice if featured on the original film. But not now.


THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
-Fix the Taun-Taun effects. Some are good, but others need improvement.
Well, there were some limitations on the stop-motion. So yeah, I kinda agree on that one, sort of. As long as the originals are preserved!


-After Luke cuts the Wampa's arm off, there's a lightsaber deactivation noise, but Luke's saber stays on; have it turn off.
I'd have to watch that again. If you're right, ok.


-Add a few more AT-STs to the Battle of Hoth (to sort of establish them for RotJ).
Nah. It's fine the way it is.


-MAYBE add more Snowtrooper/Rebel soldier fighting into the Battle of Hoth.
Maybe.


-Add a few more background monsters to Dagobah; "Massive lifeforms readings...".
No way! Are you nuts?!


-Change Luke's line back to "You're lucky you don't taste very good."
No way. I like "you're lucky to get out of there" better. Only thing about the special edition I really agree to be better.


-In the scene where you see Vader's head, make it so he's watching a hologram of Padme. Audio would be the best way to do this, since you can't really see into Vader's chamber. I'm hoping she sends him a goodbye letter of sorts in RotS, and this could be used here and in RotJ.
HELL NO!!! DON'T YOU EVER SUGGEST THAT AGAIN!!


-Change the Emperor to Ian McDiarmid. Change the music to Sith Chants/Emperor's Theme. Change the dialogue if to fit with a new ANH scene.
I'd say no, but... seems to be it's too late.


-Again. re-dub all the Stormtrooper and Boba Fett lines with Temura Morrison.
Same as above.


-Update ALL the windows on Cloud City. The SE is inconsistent; in one shot a window is updated, but in another, it's not.
OK.


-Add more training on Dagobah, IF IT WILL FIT. Jumping, lightsaber skills, etc.
If it was featured on the original trilogy, yeah, that would be great! But not now. Too late.


-Take out the Emperor's scream as Luke falls. Very funny Ben Burt, now let's change it back please.
Yes.


-Have the Falcon fight some TIEs as it escapes Cloud City ("What about those fighters?").
Uh... no!


-Change Vader's line back to "Bring my shuttle", and take out all the new SE stuff. It's totally useless and interrupts the flow Luke's rescue.
Don't care about that line really. So... ok.


-Flip the reverse frames when Vader & Piett talk about capturing the Falcon back to normal. I have no idea why they did this, but the Imperial uniforms make it obvious.
Yes. Sure.


RETURN OF THE JEDI
-Add some PT aliens to Jabba's Palace.
Oh hell no.


-Do something about the dance number in Jabba's Palace. The CG really sticks out, so either re-do it or change it back to the original.
Agree.


-Change some of Boush's lines so "Yoto" doesn't mean everything.
Hehehehe ok.


-Take out the *BURP* of the big frog. It can still eat the lizard though.
Gotta listen to that again, so I can decide.


-The compositing of the Rancor is HORRIBLE! The creature itself looks okay, but when it interacts with Luke, it needs a big upgrade. Don't totally replace it with CG though, just fix the compositing.
Hmn... I really don't know!

-MAYBE extend the Boba/Luke confrontation (with a couple of stunt doubles).
If it was on the original trilogy,
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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I don't want GL to screw with the originals either, but the fact of the matter is he's going to make more changes, and I wanted to make a comprehensive list of what could/should/might happen. I don't want another half-ass job that leaves matt-lines, shorted-out sabers, and bad CGI; if Lucas is going to overhaul the OT, then by all means, go all the way. Just make sure we still have the originals to enjoy and compare to.

In the future, I plan to show my kids the ORIGINAL OT first, followed by the PT, and then finish up with the SEs (in whatever version they may be in at that point). So, despite GL's best efforts to negate the 9-film rumors, I for one will be getting a trilogy or trilogies after all.
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That's an... interesting list...

Never come here again

Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here, this is the war room!

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How much time did you spend writing this list!

Man you must have some time on your hands!

Some of these changes are just baaaaaaaaaaad Commander Courage and I'm pretty sure most people here on OT.com would NOT welcome these changes as that would defeat the purpose of this site and the whole ethos of why people have rallied around this site in the first place! ie to preserve the ORIGINAL format of the films and as an antidote to Lucas' sticky fingers syndrome. And seeing a lot of thes changes are happening anyway on the Sept DVD's and quite frankly, SUCK DOGS BALLS, I would also like to say, Commander Courage, by name and definitely by nature!
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Originally posted by: Figrin_Dan
How much time did you spend writing this list!

Man you must have some time on your hands!

Well like I said before, the summer after AotC I sat down with pen and paper in hand and documented all he changes I'd like to see to an inevitable updated OT. I still want the old films readily available for , but again, if Lucas is going to alter the films, this is the way I'd like to see it done. I see these as a companionsto the original films, not replacements.

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Originally posted by: Figrin_Dan
I would also like to say, Commander Courage, by name and definitely by nature!

I'll take that as a compliment, I guess...
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: A NEW HOPE
: -Insert a faint Imperial March into the 'music-free slot' when Vader looks around the Blockade Runner.
: -Clean-up or re-dub both Vader's breathing and dialogue to match the other movies. This really, really bugs me, and is sure to bug me even more when RotS comes out and Vader sounds as clear as ever.
: -Digitally add the tombstones (from AotC) into the Lars Homestead.
: -The activation & color of Luke's lightsaber in Ben's House need to be fixed.
: -Insert The Imperial March into first shot of Death Star.
: -Insert The Imperial March into shot of Death Star after the burning homestead scene, and have it continue on into the interrogation scene.
: -Insert a Dug (Sebulba?) into the Cantina; either in the lizardman/wolfman slot or the elephantman/wolfman slot.
: -Change arm in Cantina so it has no blood. And make it a hoof to match what we see in the longshots.
: -Show Ben's saber tuning on & off; no more of these off-screen sound effects!
: -Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star after the Cantina.
: -Change Jabba's voice & appearence to match TPM & RotJ.
: -Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star over Alderaan.
: -Following that shot, insert a scene with Bail Organa talking to another Rebel Leader via hologram (Ackbar?), possibly about Leia's dissapearance and the Death Star. Then cut to Tarkin lookiing at Alderaan on the viewscreen.
: -Insert a shot of the Death Star blocking out the sun on Alderaan, with Bail Organa and other looking up in horror. Then cut to the activation of the superweapon.
: -Fix the activation, deactivation, and color of Luke's saber on the Falcon. It's freakin' WHITE!
: -Change the seeker ball to CG (like in AotC).
: -In the scene where the dude comes in and says the Rebels are on Dantooine, change the timing of Vader's line to match his gesture.
: -MAYBE insert a scene where Vader reports to the Emperor after detecting Obi-Wan. It makes perfect sense that he would contact Palpatine after storming off ("I sense something, a presence I've not felt since..."). Then have Palpatine tell Vader to be wary and inform Tarkin (He is here...).
: -Insert a faint Imperial March when Vader is walking through the Death Star halls.
: -Make the Diaogna look more realistic.
: -Re-dub all the Stormtrooper lines with Temura Morrrison. This goes for the whole trilogy, including Boba.
: -Improve the Vader/Kenobi duel. Some dramatic music (possibly the same from their SW3 duel?) would be nice. Also, fix saber effects (both optical and audio) so they match the other films. The saber effetcs are really bad, and the sounds of this duel are WAY different from the others.
: -Change the gunport sequence; possibly more TIEs or have the Falcon be moving (I always thought this sequence was boring).
: -Show the Falcon going to hyperspace before Vader says, "They've just made the jump into hyperspace."
: -Change Death Star plans in Rebel Breifing to match the ones in AotC.
: -Update the graphics on the Death Star.
: -Change a couple of the explosions on the Death Star; some of them still look not-so-good. (Other than that I think the space battle looks great. It's amazing how good CGI can be when time and effort is put into it.)
: -Insert a scene where Vader goes to Coruscant to report to Palpatine, like Dooku does in AotC. This would take place between Luke's landing the awards ceremony. On a landing pad at the Imperial Palace, the Sith Lords would discuss the death of Obi-Wan, the destruction of the Death Star, and the rise of a new enemy, Luke Skywalker. The ESB conversation would have be altered to go along with this one.

: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
: -Fix the Taun-Taun effects. Some are good, but others need improvement.
: -After Luke cuts the Wampa's arm off, there's a lightsaber deactivation noise, but Luke's saber stays on; have it turn off.
: -Add a few more AT-STs to the Battle of Hoth (to sort of establish them for RotJ).
: -MAYBE add more Snowtrooper/Rebel soldier fighting into the Battle of Hoth.
: -Add a few more background monsters to Dagobah; "Massive lifeforms readings...".
: -In the scene where you see Vader's head, make it so he's watching a hologram of Padme. Audio would be the best way to do this, since you can't really see into Vader's chamber. I'm hoping she sends him a goodbye letter of sorts in RotS, and this could be used here and in RotJ.
: -Change the Emperor to Ian McDiarmid. Change the music to Sith Chants/Emperor's Theme. Change the dialogue if to fit with a new ANH scene.
: -Again. re-dub all the Stormtrooper and Boba Fett lines with Temura Morrison.
: -Update ALL the windows on Cloud City. The SE is inconsistent; in one shot a window is updated, but in another, it's not.
: -Add more training on Dagobah, IF IT WILL FIT. Jumping, lightsaber skills, etc.
: -Have the Falcon fight some TIEs as it escapes Cloud City ("What about those fighters?").
: -Change Vader's line back to "Bring my shuttle", and take out all the new SE stuff. It's totally useless and interrupts the flow Luke's rescue.
: -Flip the reverse frames when Vader & Piett talk about capturing the Falcon back to normal. I have no idea why they did this, but the Imperial uniforms make it obvious.

: RETURN OF THE JEDI
: -Add some PT aliens to Jabba's Palace.
: -Do something about the dance number in Jabba's Palace. The CG really sticks out, so either re-do it or change it back to the original.
: -Change some of Boush's lines so "Yoto" doesn't mean everything.
: -Take out the *BURP* of the big frog. It can still eat the lizard though.
: -The compositing of the Rancor is HORRIBLE! The creature itself looks okay, but when it interacts with Luke, it needs a big upgrade. Don't totally replace it with CG though, just fix the compositing.
: -MAYBE extend the Boba/Luke confrontation (with a couple of stunt doubles).
: -Add some limbs flying around or something as Luke uses his lightsaber on the Sail Barge; Make it look like he's using a LIGHTSABER, not a stick.
: -Insert SOME shot of Han flying the Falcon; during the conversation as they leave Tatooine would do. It's a great injustice we never got to see him flying his baby in the conclusion of the trilogy.
: -The Emperor's theme is good, but alter it to incorporate vocals (like in the PT, which sounds even cooler).
: -Extend the Luke/Ben conversation, with cut dialogue and all (the parts that fit in with RotS).
: -Fix some of the Speeder Bike effects. Most are good, but some still need improvement.
: -Insert a scene where Vader is watching the same Padme hologram from MY ESB either right before or right after he tells the Emperor about Luke being on Endor.
: -Have 3p0 explain WHY the Ewoks join the Alliance; they're being used for slave labor and loosing their home, etc.
: -Leia's memories of her mother probably won't jive with RotS, can something be done about this?
: -If there's any way to have Leia realize Vader is HER father too, please do it. Carrie Fisher was really out of it here.
: -Add a couple of AT-ATs to the Battle of Endor; there’s at least one there already.
: -In the space battle, have some Star Destroyers fight some Mon Calamari Cruisers; big space warfare.
: -MAYBE add some alien Rebel pilots for diversity’s sake.
: -Spruce-up & extend the Luke/Vader duel.
: -Originally, Luke was supposed to roll his saber to Vader under the catwalk; you can see Vader holding Luke’s saber in some shots. So, use this scenario to have Luke Force-Call VADER”s saber to him, having Luke defeat Vader with the RED blade; which I think would be AWESOME. I don’t care if the hilts don’t match-this is too cool to pass up.
: -Remove the plexiglass Han form the Endor Bunker explosion.
: -Change the visual of the Endor Bunker explosion to match what actually hap
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Frankly I am completely against any changes to the OT that make it fit more easily with the PT. It should be the other way round. Can you imagine how much more credible the PT would be if they actually made it look technologically the same as the OT? I mean you could still use CG but not to the extent where it looks completely like a different set of movies!!! That's what the PT will ALWAYS look like compared to the OT, no matter how many times GL and Co head back to the OT and go 'tweak' crazy. The costumes of the OT is so 70's/80's, the effects are so different, the acting so different, GL will never be able to seamlessly bridge the 2 movies, believe me I have tried, but it just can't happen without filming both series, OT and PT again.

So Captain Courage, I would never wish GL to insert PT stuff into the OT films, it wouldn't work.
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NO GOOD
NO GOOD
NO GOOD

And I say this as the man who was one day thinking about how Ewoks poop....

“You know, when you think about it, the Ewoks probably just crap over the sides of their tree-huts.”

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So, just out of curiosity, does ANYONE here like these would-be changes?
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I appreciate your time you spent in putting them together, but the changes themselves are simply awful. Well, some of them (lightsaber tweaks are good), but most of them are terrible. Especially all the Imperial March ideas. It's supposed to be dramatic in ESB when we first hear it, and there's no reason to rescore ANH.

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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
So, just out of curiosity, does ANYONE here like these would-be changes?
I do.
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Ok George,
that's 1 against (at last count) 60, 711, you're outvoted mate,
give us our fricking original versions on DVD, you flannel wearing S.o.B !!!
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Ironically, the only guy who agrees with me is George Lucs himself.

A little suspicious if you ask me...
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Will the Real George Lucas PLEASE stand up!, PLEASE stand up!, PLEASE stand up!!
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Will the REAL George Lucas PLEASE stand up!, PLEASE stand up!, PLEASE stand up!
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Well, you got to admit, the avatar does look a lot like Lucas.

Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here, this is the war room!

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Well, here's my two cents.
A little kinder than others at times, at others a little harsher.

A NEW HOPE
-Insert a faint Imperial March into the 'music-free slot' when Vader looks around the Blockade Runner.

Certainly not in the dead spot, it would drown out Vader's ominous breathing in his first appearance.
If it fit anywhere, it would have to replace the ANH imperial theme that swelled at the end of the scene as he walked past camera with the stormtroopers...
I'm kind of 50/50 on this one.... if in any of the 10,000 places you suggested adding it, it would actually fit, this would be the best one... Still, the scene is fine as it is.

-Clean-up or re-dub both Vader's breathing and dialogue to match the other movies. This really, really bugs me, and is sure to bug me even more when RotS comes out and Vader sounds as clear as ever.

This would turn into a disaster. ("Alert my star destroyer..." )

-Digitally add the tombstones (from AotC) into the Lars Homestead.

Once again, too much work for no real payoff. If there were any shots where you would see it, they would be tiny in the background.

-The activation & color of Luke's lightsaber in Ben's House need to be fixed.

Done... See the 2004 dvd release.

-Insert The Imperial March into first shot of Death Star.

Nah, fine as is...

-Insert The Imperial March into shot of Death Star after the burning homestead scene, and have it continue on into the interrogation scene.

Nope, we don't need unnecessary music drowning out the dialogue.

-Insert a Dug (Sebulba?) into the Cantina; either in the lizardman/wolfman slot or the elephantman/wolfman slot.

There were enough cgi muppets in the prequels for both trilogies already. If anything, remove that goofy arm looking thing and put the Prototype Watto (the elephant guy) over it, across from the wolfman.

-Change arm in Cantina so it has no blood. And make it a hoof to match what we see in the longshots.

It was filmed that way initially and changed to ensure a PG rating instead of a G. See the Lost Cut Version of the Cantina scene over at T Bone's for a look. If they remastered that footage and restored it, I wouldn't object. Just NO new cgi arm that looks like it fell off a cartoon character.

-Show Ben's saber tuning on & off; no more of these off-screen sound effects!

Then you would need new footage of Alec turning on said saber, and I don't trust throwing in digital doubles in the OT. Besides, he turns it on on the Death Star. You can see it then.

-HAN SHOOTS FIRST!

Amen...

-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star after the Cantina.

Maybe once in that first scene would be okay, to carry it over, since it was introduced in EP II, and will be in EP III, but we don't need to smear it all over EP IV.

-Change Jabba's voice & appearence to match TPM & RotJ.

Nope, jettison him altogether. According to Marcia Lucas, the editor of EP IV, he was cut because the scene was redundant, not because of effects, and you know what? Effects may have caught up, but the scene is still redundant. Listen to the line "Even I get boarded sometimes... You think I had a choice?" IT'S THE SAME LOOPED AUDIO IN THE GREEDO SCENE!!! How the hell they let the same exact recording of dialogue slip twice into one film is beyond me...

-Insert The Imperial March into the shot of the Death Star over Alderaan.

See above...

-Following that shot, insert a scene with Bail Organa talking to another Rebel Leader via hologram (Ackbar?), possibly about Leia's dissapearance and the Death Star. Then cut to Tarkin lookiing at Alderaan on the viewscreen.

The story moves along tightly as it is... We don't need unnecessary character cluttering things up. Why not have Ric Olie show up and explain to us, "That's the Death Star... The whole thing is one big laser." Ugh...
And Leia wasn't missing... She was dead. Vader ordered it reported that everyone onboard the Tantive IV was killed.

-Insert a shot of the Death Star blocking out the sun on Alderaan, with Bail Organa and other looking up in horror. Then cut to the activation of the superweapon.

Well, as cool as the idea of a Transformers the Movie/ID4 planet-eye view of the destruction would be, and the added gravity of the situation, seeing the people who are about to get blown to dust could come off... It would most likely get mucked up... They'd probably have someone on Alderaan fire off a cannon at the DS, so that it blew up Alderaan in self defense, like Han and Greedo...
I would restore Leia's screaming laid over the shot of the explosion of Alderaan, which is in the Pre ANH version's sound mix though. It made her a little more human.

-Fix the activation, deactivation, and color of Luke's saber on the Falcon. It's freakin' WHITE!

Yeah, I agree with fixing the saber effects... especially since I hear they left this scene screwed up on the dvd.

-Change the seeker ball to CG (like in AotC).

Nope, you can see infinitely more detail on a model.

-In the scene where the dude comes in and says the Rebels are on Dantooine, change the timing of Vader's line to match his gesture.

Actually Vader gestures because he had additional dialogue that was cut. Either restore the dialogue, or I'm not entrely against altering the footage to prevent Vader from gesturing. If you isolate just Vader's image after he is done speaking and slow down the speed of his footage and overlay it over the original scene, it will fix the problem.
I did similar work in Balance and CW.

-MAYBE insert a scene where Vader reports to the Emperor after detecting Obi-Wan. It makes perfect sense that he would contact Palpatine after storming off ("I sense something, a presence I've not felt since..."). Then have Palpatine tell Vader to be wary and inform Tarkin (He is here...).

No! I really don't like adding Palpatine to ANH. He's already there in spirit, when they mention dissolving the Senate.
If you were to add him at all, I would have him not give Tarkin permission to test the DS on Alderaan.
Attacking an unarmed planet would bring sympathy for the Rebellion, something already once referenced to as being a thing the Empire wants to avoid. Plus it would make Tarkin much more of a threatening character, blatantly taking matters into his own hands and defying the Emperor. Then again, if he openly defied the Emeror in front of Vader, Vader would probably just force choke him into submission...
It's best left alone.

-Insert a faint Imperial March when Vader is walking through the Death Star halls.

See above..

-Make the Diaogna look more realistic.

Done. See 2004 dvd release.

-Re-dub all the Stormtrooper lines with Temura Morrrison. This goes for the whole trilogy, including Boba.

No! They already screwed up Boba for the new dvd.
I'm glad they left the Troopers alone, and irritated that I have to go back and redub Boba to the original voice as it is... Twins can have slightly different voices... So can clones.
I might dig through some of the alternate Pre ANH Stormtrooper, Imperial, and even Luke dialogue and use some different takes from the original version, though. No changes like "You were lucky to get out of there." though. Ugh...

-Improve the Vader/Kenobi duel. Some dramatic music (possibly the same from their SW3 duel?) would be nice. Also, fix saber effects (both optical and audio) so they match the other films. The saber effetcs are really bad, and the sounds of this duel are WAY different from the others.

No, we don't need a digital Vader

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And if I perfect my Quantum Leap time machine so I can enter George Lucas' body pre-1983, here are the changes I'll make to Return of the Jedi:

-Change the (yawn) SECOND Death Star to a new kind of doomsday weapon.
-Change all the ewoks to wookies.
-Leave Leia in the movie as "the other" referred to by Yoda. (After all, she was able to receive Luke's telepathic message in ESB which seems like a pretty good clue to me.) But that doesn't mean she has to be a Skywalker or (shudder) Luke's sister! (And I'm still waiting for the explanation in Episode III as to how Padme gives birth to twins, but somehow Obi-Wan only knows about her son, Yoda is the only one who knows about her daughter, and Anakin knows about neither!)
-So what happened to that love triangle that appeared to be developing in Episode IV? When Luke and Leia talk alone on Endor, have him profess his love for her, but she's confused as to how to respond because she also loves Han. Then after the Death Star explodes and Han asks her if she loves Luke, she finally chooses Solo.
-Have Lando sacrifice himself and the Millenium Falcon (what's the deal with Han's "funny feeling" about never seeing his ship again anyways?) so he can fully redeem himself for being such a dirty, no-good, double-crossing swindler.
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Thanks for the in-depth response MagnoliaFan. This helps me see your point of view a lot better than, "NO!"

As for rennervision, I was going for actual changes that could be made to the OT in a future release. However, I'm totally with your suggestions, as RotJ is unquestionably the weakest of the first three films. I would, to name a few:
-Handle the completion of Luke's training better. He should have gone back to Dagobah at the end of ESB, so open JEDI with Luke's final trials from Yoda, who has grown old and weak, and have Luke leave with his death. The only problem with all this would be Luke getting the true story on Vader from Ben and Yoda. Surely the topic would have been brought up in the years between the films, so where does that leave the big explanation scenes? Something to think about...
-Make it clear in RotS that the Empire was builing two Death Stars at once. This would make everything much more plausable to me then rolling out yet another superweapon with the same basic weaknesses just a few years later.
-Furthermore, I'd have the DS2 being constructed over Kayshhk (or however you spell it), using Wookies as slave labor, thereby replacing Endor and the Ewoks.
-Tranplant the excellent Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes to Coruscant, possibly to the volcanic Sith Catacombs.
-Have the Rebels attempts to destroy the DS2 fail. However, Luke, at his peak of clarity after defeating Vader and denying Palpatine, reaching out with the Force and destroying it himself. (I must admit I didn't come up with that myself, I think I read it on T'Bone's site somewhere in an feature on improving RotJ.)