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Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 4-Aug-2004 3:39 AM
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1st time posting for this lurker...

stop me if you've heard this one before, but i just noticed something novel regarding the missing leia welding footage (stemming from the defective definitive collection 1st pressing). so tonight i was watching the TR47 version of ESB, and i decided to compare it to intact versions to measure how much footage was actually missing. it turns out that, to my eye, there is apparently NO missing footage whatever, only a ~3.5 second pause. i was comparing it to both the THX widescreen vhs ESB (yes the rare one) as well as the SE widescreen vhs ESB. there is no lost footage here, folks, only a delay. am i wrong?

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Author: Obi-Wan Spicoli
Time: 4-Aug-2004 3:46 AM
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Yes, that's correct. The missing Leia footage is on the anamorphic set.

Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.

Author: RowMan
Time: 4-Aug-2004 3:57 AM
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Actually, the welding footage is on the TR47 version after the 3 seconds of black, but it is NOT on the anamorphic set.

Author: Obi-Wan Spicoli
Time: 4-Aug-2004 4:09 AM
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That's actually what I mean. The anamorphic set is the one that is missing the footage.

Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.

Author: TR47
Time: 4-Aug-2004 5:09 AM
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Yes, that is the only significant flaw in the set, and it is minor at best. There is no missing footage.

Originally posted by: The Dark Lord
1st time posting for this lurker...

stop me if you've heard this one before, but i just noticed something novel regarding the missing leia welding footage (stemming from the defective definitive collection 1st pressing). so tonight i was watching the TR47 version of ESB, and i decided to compare it to intact versions to measure how much footage was actually missing. it turns out that, to my eye, there is apparently NO missing footage whatever, only a ~3.5 second pause. i was comparing it to both the THX widescreen vhs ESB (yes the rare one) as well as the SE widescreen vhs ESB. there is no lost footage here, folks, only a delay. am i wrong?

Author: oojason
Time: 4-Aug-2004 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by: RowMan
Actually, the welding footage is on the TR47 version after the 3 seconds of black, but it is NOT on the anamorphic set.

I never noticed that missing bit until it was pointed out here - how long is the welding sequence? (a couple of seconds?)

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Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 4-Aug-2004 11:32 AM
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well the actual welding only lasts a few seconds, then Han saunters in and they start making with the smooches (my hands are dirty). so what i'm wondering is, on the defective definitive collection LD pressing, is there just a delay or is there actually missing footage, and if so how much exactly? that is, does the defective LD match the TR47 or the anamorphic rip of ESB? i recently purchased the definitive laser box set, but i haven't got a player yet to check ESB. i wish i discovered this forum before i purchased, but i figure either version is worth owning. incidentally, yesterday i purchased the '89 ws laser of star wars to get the audio with C3PO's tractor line (plus the sundry other subtle differences i'm hoping incl open the blast doors and sound effects). it seems to me like this disc would be a good source audio for mixing in with laserman's eventual ultimate edition.

what say you, ladies?

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 4-Aug-2004 12:04 PM
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Yes!

Here, here to Laserman's Ultimate Set!

What the SE *should have been* all along.

My stance on revising fan edits.

Author: oojason
Time: 4-Aug-2004 12:36 PM
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Anyone know how Laserman's dl project is coming along? - I havn't seen him post here for while...

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Author: RowMan
Time: 4-Aug-2004 1:00 PM
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Originally posted by: The Dark Lord
...so what i'm wondering is, on the defective definitive collection LD pressing, is there just a delay or is there actually missing footage, and if so how much exactly? that is, does the defective LD match the TR47 or the anamorphic rip of ESB? i recently purchased the definitive laser box set, but i haven't got a player yet to check ESB. i wish i discovered this forum before i purchased, but i figure either version is worth owning...

There are two different releases of the Definitive set. The first accidentally omitted the welding footage. A second release corrected that. The TR47 set used the second release. The bit of black is a mastering error on the DVD only, not the laserdisc. A MINOR flaw at best.

Author: Figrin_Dan
Time: 4-Aug-2004 10:36 PM
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For those of us new to the forum here can someone who has been here for while post a summary of who is offering OT DVD's and are offering them for other fans? This way we can PM and get some ourselves!

So far we have TR47. Who else?

Author: TR47
Time: 4-Aug-2004 10:41 PM
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Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 4-Aug-2004 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Figrin_Dan
For those of us new to the forum here can someone who has been here for while post a summary of who is offering OT DVD's and are offering them for other fans? This way we can PM and get some ourselves!

So far we have TR47. Who else?

figrin, check out page 50 of this thread. refer to the "new titles added" post.

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Author: digitalfreaknyc
Time: 4-Aug-2004 11:21 PM
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Funny. Everyone's forgotten about lil' old me and my FREE offer

Author: Galahad_Skywalker
Time: 4-Aug-2004 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Funny. Everyone's forgotten about lil' old me and my FREE offer

Welcome back, digitalfreak. I was wondering what had happened to you. I thought you had stopped that offer after receiving threats.

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Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 4-Aug-2004 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Funny. Everyone's forgotten about lil' old me and my FREE offer

didn't want to speak for you, dfnyc. obviously not EVERYONE forgot. btw, you should be receiving a package from me by friday.

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Author: Figrin_Dan
Time: 5-Aug-2004 1:05 AM
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Anyone got the OT DVD's on PAL? Woe us Aussie's! We can't use NTSC!!!

Author: snooy47
Time: 5-Aug-2004 3:42 AM
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Can't use NTSC ?

Most TV sets and DVD players play NTSC nowadays right ?

Author: MeBeJedi
Time: 5-Aug-2004 10:38 AM
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NTSC is the American system. You know, like how the rest of the world uses metric.

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Author: oojason
Time: 5-Aug-2004 11:41 AM
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Aren't the OT dvds (TR47 & the anamorphic set) region free - and will play on any dvd player - regardless of region?

I think the NTSC logo appears on a load of people's DVD covers as that is actual source of the laserdiscs used.

(Or have I missed something - as usual?)

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

Author: wadetv
Time: 5-Aug-2004 2:18 PM
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What was digitalfreaknyc's offer?

Author: TR47
Time: 5-Aug-2004 2:21 PM
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Author: wadetv
Time: 5-Aug-2004 3:00 PM
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TR47,
Could you post some screen caps.

Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 5-Aug-2004 3:43 PM
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Author: The Dark Lord
Time: 5-Aug-2004 4:10 PM
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EDIT: woops. empty post. sorry.

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