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Flash? Fluke? Are you talking to me?

Well, I never tried it, but I did set up private after-hours screenings for myself and a few select friends on occasion. Occasions like the night before Ep. 2 opened, etc.

I'm not just saying it to be coy, I really never tried making a copy of anything. Too afraid of federal prison and such. I suppose if one was so motivated, though, it wouldn't be too hard, since all managers and projectionists had keys to the building and booth, and you could probably set up a tripod in the auditorium for the camera and an audio line to the audio rack in the booth. I know there are problems with using a standard camcorder for recording movies due to the different frame rates, but I never looked into it.
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Cheers Fluke (sorry for the name error - tis late here in the UK and I'm too tired and too old to be typing stuff. lol)

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I would really like to get ahold of a copy of MagnoliaFan's "Ep 1: Balance of the Force" edit, all the reviews sound really good. Anybody know if there is a torrent of it up anywhere? If not, I would be happy to trade a couple of blank DVD-r if someone could burn me a copy. Thanks.
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^ Give Rikter a buzz m8 - most of his SW stuff is on the 1st post on the 1st page in this thread.

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Hi all!

Oojason, did you have any luck getting hold of the DVD-R of Balance of the Force? I really can't wait to get hold of it and see what Episode 1 really should have been like!

I just don't want to be another in a long list of people bothering Rikter. Let me know if you were/are successful.

Many Thanks
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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Hi all!

Oojason, did you have any luck getting hold of the DVD-R of Balance of the Force? I really can't wait to get hold of it and see what Episode 1 really should have been like!

I just don't want to be another in a long list of people bothering Rikter. Let me know if you were/are successful.

Many Thanks
Jim



Hit me up


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Hi Jambe Davdar - I did get both Balance Of The Force (Ep1) and The Clone War (Ep2) of the MFE on dvdr. The pic and sound quality are dvd quality, the cuts and insertion have given made the film more inkeeping with the OT (and far less cartoonty than the official versions), and for me they are the definitve editions of the 1st two Eps.

There's a post on them in the first page of this thread

Hope you enjoy 'em...


(I have also come to the conclusion that Rikter has managed to somehow clone himself a few times to keep up with all things SW... )

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Thanks oojason. I have dropped Rikter a line (PM and email) to ask if he would be kind enough to sort me out with a copy. I am an editor myself so I look forwrd to seeing his work. Looking forward to hearing from you Rikter.

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I have now altered my profile so that I can accept Private Messages - DOH!!

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BTW, everyone the stuff Rikter is doing will blow your mind! He's professional and does amazing work, with a variety of choices that all look awesome (BTW I mean for each DVD there is several different art selections). And his catalog is thorough to say the least. Great guy and huge asset to the board. Like I said in my original "that feeling" thread, him and Magnolia were the two reasons I came to this board. And Magnolia's edits...wow. They improve the story and the pacing so much, Ep. II is flat out awesome now.
16 years I wait and this is what I get???
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I'm a long time lurker here, but the draw of these Magnolia Fan edits is too much to stay in the shadows. I'm gonna have to hit Rikter up for these once and for all.

I'd just like to say these boards and all of you guys here are awesome. I've learned quite a bit reading the past few months about all the different sound mixes, cuts, etc. Even all the info about DVD authoring and editing has been great....for someone like me who'd like to get into as a hobby.

Again, great work everyone on all the edits and custom covers....what a great place to share our love for the OT. I guess you'll be seeing me around these parts more often now...
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It could be easier on some people if perhaps some of these videos were encoded to MPEG-4 (DivX, etc.), I'd be willing to do that and torrent the stuff... I'd like to say that I am pretty good at encoding mpeg-4 stuff. XD

I've downloaded the Anamorphic Star Wars 4 off BitTorrent, and it seems quite good quality, though when I did a libavcodec transcode from it, the bitrate was unusually low, it's still quite good quality.

I like watching fanfilms and alternate versions, and I'm glad to see these go up for download. Although full DVDs can be quite a long download... and mpeg-4 transcodes which run about a third to half the size would be much easier on downloaders.

Just let me know. XD

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G'day TIE Pilot - hope you enjoy the MagnoliaFan Edits as much as I did - for me it is surprising how GL or his editor could get it so... bad - and a fan with determination and know-how could do so well!

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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
The funny thing is...
I had no know how at the time.
I made it up as I went along...


I am looking forward to seeing your edits...
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Save me from George Lucas.

This is great to see you're all doing all this work to 'fix' the Prequels and make the Originals available on DVD.

I have lurked in the past but I just joined the forums last night with the intent of finding a passionate bootlegger and Star Wars enthusiast with the knowledge to help me find the OT on DVD seeing as how the New OT is so far from it's original form which I watched on the cinemas all those decades ago that it disgusts me.

A few years ago I bought the Star Wars Definitve LaserDiscs on eBay, 'twas an expensive ship to Sydney Australia, and my aim was to burn copies of these original versions for myself, friends and anyone else who was interested.

Unfortunately, life got in the way and I was never able to pick up a laserdisc player or a DVD authoring/burning equipment or more importantly learn just what the hell would be required to undertake this mammoth task.

But now that's all history as I see that quite a few more talented people than I have succeeded where I could not.

I have PM'd Rikter about the Star Wars Trilogy Definitive DVDs in Anamorphic Widescreen with commentaries and the fourth disc loaded with extras as this seems to be the version of choice. And now that I hear about the brilliant sounding MagnoliaFan edits I think I'll have to get those also.

This is great work from you guys I'm impressed that purists and revisionaries are getting political about the preservation of a film in its original form and the restoration of narrative structure and character arcs to the films of today. Keep it up.
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Until a torrent is made so I can see it for myself, can you name some cuts of Balance of the Force and The Clone Wars that make them different from the official films?

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Off the top of my head...

BALANCE

Alternate Title and Crawl, giving more history on the Jedi, Republic and Trade Federation
The plot is also altered from revolving around taxation to slave labor.
Opening crawl music replaced with music from EP IV UE soundtrack (a little longer and it just sounded better to me)
Cockpit scene en route to the Federation cruiser was ommitted
New music cue landing in Fed docking bay
Neimoidians are dubbed and subtitled as is TC-14 when talking to Neimoidians. Most of their dialogue has been totally rewritten.
First scene with TC-14 and the Neimoidians is expanded considerably with additional dialogue.
New music cue leading into Darth Sidious' appearance.
Sidious' face is digitally shadowed under the hood hiding his face.
Sidious' line "I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again!" has been altered to "I don't want this slime in my sight again!"
New sound effect added as gun turrret swings around.
The reaction scene in the cockpit has been omitted.
The sound effects for the explosion of the cruiser has been enhanced.
New sound effect added for the battle droid turning off the hologram of Nute Gunray.
Battle Droids dubbed and subtitled when speaking to each other or Neimoidians.
Some Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon dialogue is trimmed from the battle onboard the Federation ship.
Dialogue trimmed in "It's an invasion army!" scene.
Additional little plot twist added in the Viceroy's viewscreen scene with Queen Amidala.
Dialogue trimmed in Naboo council"Senator Palpatine?" scene.
Hologram scene between Nute and Droid commander is cut.
Jar Jar is dubbed and subtitled.
Jar Jar is a pompous ass who believes he saved Qui-Gon's life by dragging him down and thinks Qui-Gon owes him the life debt.
It is also revealed that the Gungans desise humans with a passion... except for Jar Jar, who doesn't mind humans so much, seeing as the Gungans hate him even more than they do humans.
Otoh Gungah referred to by name.
"The Invasion is on schedule, my Lord" scene has been moved to follow Jar Jar's debut, breaking up the Gungan antics.
Boss Nass is now Governor Nass.
Lots of alternate exposition in Otoh Gunga. Jar Jar is revealed to have been thrown out several times. The Gungans hate the Naboo people because humans stole a Gungan relic, the Kyber crystal from them, explaining the big glwoing globe at the end of the film.
Nass is leaning toward supporting the Federation against the Naboo, pre Jedi mind trick.
A sound effect is added to the Jedi mind trick.
There is a little trim to the end of the scene.
In the sub scene it is revealed that Jar Jar was the Gungan charged with guarding the Kyber crystal. He was sleeping on the job and allowed the crystal to be stolen.
The second underwater sequence has been cut and replaced with a recut version of the waterfall scene.
The Viceroy, having captured Amidala plans to force her to offer the people of Naboo as an alternative uncompensated workforce in retaliation to her lobbying to outlaw their slave labor forces.
Instead of telling the droid commander "Process them", he nonchalantly orders the droid to to "Shoot her companions."
When Qui-Gon and co rescue the Queen, Jar Jar claims credit for it, after lying face down on the ground for the whole fight.
Some dialogue is trimmed outside of the hangar.
The battle droid's "joke" toward Qui-Gon has been cut.
The "You stay here" scene between Jar Jar and Obi-Wan has been cut.
The entire Naboo escape has been resquenced so that they lose shields right away, but don't regain them until the last minute.
Some additional dialogue is trimmed during the escape.
Some dialogue is trimmed in the "Here Master, Tatooine" scene.
The line "Not for a Sith" has been trimmed out of the Darth Maul introduction scene.
As an homage, the Viceroy's aide says, "This deal is getting worse all the time!" in said scene.
Some dialogue trimmed in the Artoo intro scene.
The Padme and Jar Jar scene, cleaning artoo has been cut.
Upon arrival to Tatooine, it is revealed that Qui-Gon is taking Jar Jar with him to Mos Espa because the Queen ordered him to, as she felt he was stinking up the ship.
When Padme is ordered along, Jar Jar wonders if Padme was stinking up the ship as well.
A ship has been digitally painted out of Mos Espa's skyline.
New noises and chatter have been added to the streets in all Mos Espa scenes.
The poop stepping scene has been cut.
When we first come upon Watto, he hums the Cantina song from EP IV for a few seconds before Qui-Gon and co enter.
Watto is considerably harsher toward Anakin in the subtitles.
Jar Jar no longer has slapsticky antics inside the store and the "Are you an angel" scene has been trimmed considerably.
When Qui-Gon tries the mind trick on Watto, he becomes much angrier and throws Qui-Gon out shouting, "Get lost! Come back when you gotta some money!"
As Qui-Gon embarassedly exits the shop, Jar Jar knocks over a bunch of stuff and Watto shouts, "Hey! You break it, you buy it! Eh?!"
Jar Jar's "No again!" speech has been cut.
The scene of Jar Jar stealing the frog has been trimmed.
After Anakin saves Jar Jar from Sebulba, Jar Jar brags that he was about to give Sebulba a beating until that kid got in the way.
The Jira scene has been trimmed to make her less creepy.
Anakin's "very, very dangerous" line has been trimmed to "very dangerous".
Instead of "Hello", Jar Jar remarks "Oh, what a dump." upon seeing Anakin's home.
Anakin's acting is trimmed throughout Threepio's introduction.
Music is replaced throughout the Coruscant balcony scene, using the Imperial march seguewaying into the Emperor's theme. Every piece of sound had to be rebuilt from scratch for the sequence.
Sidious has an alternate line to end the scene, "The Republic will soon be under my countrol."

I'm sure I've skimmed over dozens of noticable changes and hundreds of really minor changes by now, but that should give you a gist on the first part of the film.

To be continued later on...

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w00t! Can't wait to see it! *_*

Moll.

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I am finding my self very interested in the Magnoliafan edits - I could only bear seeing TPM twice, and AotC once, as they were... I've just now downloaded the original trilogy LD rips (I have two VHS versions of these movies and will probably end up purchasing the new DVD release anyway, so I reckon I can allow myself that transgression. . Anyway, watching those made me fall in love with the films all over again, for the umpteenth time. I crave more!

Therefore, any info on torrents would be greatly appreciated - I live in Sweden, and am loath to bother Rikter with the hassle of sending DVDs here and sending him money, etc. :/

It'd be a lot easier if it could be made available as a torrent for all involved, I think.
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Magnolia - I just received your pre-ANH Star Wars dvd off Rikter and am watching it now - most impressive m8.

Is it my poor memory or does the blaster sounds in the fight between the Rebels and Stormtroopers at the start of the film make it seem a more intense battle than in other versions?

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