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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
Here you go and by different scenes I meant 3 scenes were redubbed and the opening crawl changed, and by 3 weeks after the original release that is when Lucas decided to make this change. Lastly I do know that the "lost cut" was not intended to be widely distributed and was for screening. Again, spefically Obi Wan Spicoli, why do you want to argue so bad. I am trying to enlighten. I swear my posts are not read completely, skimmed and lambasted is more like by certain board members. I never said HOORAY Lucas! I never said this is the same as the present changes taking place. I am setting precedence that in fact, Lucas has always had a history of tinkering. And further Lucas can argue his vision originally was not realized and is evolving and that the Archival Edition will be the culmination of that. Why argue, just say good point...you can disagree with me, but 1. Read my entire post 2. Think of my point with reacting emotionally wanting to tear someone down. 3. write your opinion, again without tearing others down. This is the point of a message board... As for references to the "orginal" movie alone (not including the other 5 episodes) going through changes/revisions...
Despite what you may think, I don't want to argue or tear you down. And I am reading your posts quite thoroughly. I simply want accurate information placed out there. While I think it's great that you're immersing yourself in this very interesting aspect of Star Wars history, I believe you are confusing the facts. I am simply trying to set those facts straight. If you are truly trying to enlighten, I would think you would want those facts to be straight as well. We are on the same side, my friend.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
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Star Wars (1977)
When the original theatrical version was first released, it was simply titled Star Wars.The opening crawl was changed to "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" during the 1981 re-release. According to Sterling Hedgpeth, Lucasfilm film archivist: "I found a box with all the positive elements for the 'revised' opening crawl, and the assorted trim boxes are dated from October through December 1980. This, then, is consistent with the view that Episode IV: A New Hope was added for the first time to the opening crawl for the April 10, 1981 re-release."
This is correct. However, you said this earlier: "3 weeks after its release He added "A new hope" to it as the subtitle and in the scrawl, only after this change it was "episode IV"." This reads as though you are saying that Episode IV A New Hope was added 3 weeks after the release. Surely you can see that.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
There are at least two different prints of the original Star Wars in circulation. One definite difference between them is that the brief scene in the Death Star corridor where Chewbacca roars and "frightens" a little messenger droid is missing. This scene was NOT in the "opening day" version.
This has always been rumor and has never been substantiated. If there are prints in circulation then where are they? All I can say is prove it. But you can't. We can simply agree to disagree on this.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
The original version reportedly includes another difference besides the corridor scene. The actress who played Aunt Beru, Shelagh Fraser, does not have her voice in all prints of the Star Wars movies - except in the original print. Lucas dubbed it over in all subsequent prints.
This is not true. Mrs. Fraser's own voice was never in any theatrically released print of Star Wars. The mono sound mix used a different voice than what we have become accustomed to. Some people have erroneously referred to this voice as being undubbed. Some say this voice is a different voice over actress, but I believe it is just an alternate take.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
There are a few noticeable differences between the version shown on ITV on British television during the 1980s and early, pre-'remastered' video releases:
The sound quality of the voices heard over intercoms and radios during the Battle of Yavin is very different.
On TV, Luke says "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" On the video he says, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?"
On TV, Porkins' final dying scream is drowned out.
On TV, a stormtrooper searching for the droids on Tatooine says, "This one's secure, move onto the next one". On the video he says 'locked' instead of secure.
This is because the mono sound mix was shown. All of these elements can be found in the mono sound mix. I know, I have it on VHS.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
The 1981 re-issue contains three dialogue differences from the original. First is the appearance of the "close the blast doors" line that was silenced in the 1981 version. The 1977 version has Aunt Beru's line "All his friends have gone" places emphasis on "friends" rather than "gone" in the 1981 version. Finally, Luke shouts "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" rather than "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?" Because Luke's head is turned to the side, it's impossible to tell which is the on-set name used. The redubbing makes Wedge's rescue of Luke more unexpected.
I guess you copied and pasted all of this from somewhere, but the first two lines make no sense. The '81 release contains a line that was silenced in the '81 version? Huh? At any rate, "close the blast doors" did appear in the original 1977 release. It was in the mono sound mix. "Blast it, Wedge" is also in the mono sound mix.
I guess my point is that none of these things were changed or altered. They are simply differences within the original 3 sound mixes. Depending on which version you saw, 70mm 6-track, Dolby Stereo, or mono, you would have experienced a slightly different film.
Scott