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Originally posted by: C3PX
Virtual PC was originally designed to run Windows on Mac, but no, it does not work the other way around. I used basilisk and Window 2k (I think), as soon as Win2k loaded the first thing it did was run basilisk with the desired OS. I had Win2k running bare bones so as many resources as possible could be used on the emulation. Not as good as a Mac, but it was the best I could do. And it allowed me to spend precious hours playing Escape Velocity: Override, oh what wonders Windows users missed out on with that game... *day dreams of joining the E.U. and becoming a fighter pilot and defending the galaxy.. or maybe becoming a pirate...*
Virtual PC was originally designed to run Windows on Mac, but no, it does not work the other way around. I used basilisk and Window 2k (I think), as soon as Win2k loaded the first thing it did was run basilisk with the desired OS. I had Win2k running bare bones so as many resources as possible could be used on the emulation. Not as good as a Mac, but it was the best I could do. And it allowed me to spend precious hours playing Escape Velocity: Override, oh what wonders Windows users missed out on with that game... *day dreams of joining the E.U. and becoming a fighter pilot and defending the galaxy.. or maybe becoming a pirate...*
Checked out the Wiki on that. Actually it does look cool. Here's on for you...I played this for WEEKS on my old DOS machine. I actually kept a DOS machine well after Win95 came out just to play this:
Master of Orion
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The Escape Velocity games are fantastic, and unfortunately very little known among Windows users. My friend who was a Mac guy introduced me too it. The third game in the series finally got a Windows port, you can get the demo here: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/
The demo is exactly as the full version, only you cannot board enemy ships after damaging them and steal their cargo. Also after a few days of playing the demo a ship will come on screen, tell you to register then blow you up, this makes the game very difficult to play, but you will have a couple of weeks to play without this happening.
To slip back on topic, I bet this game doesn't work on Vista.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
To slip back on topic, I bet this game doesn't work on Vista.
To slip back on topic, I bet this game doesn't work on Vista.
LMAO
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Tests have shown that XP runs nearly every program/software faster than Vista. Theres no reason to get Vista right now.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo If I wanted to do some research on the different macs out there where would be the best place to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be great.
If your looking for just the specs and the hardware of each mac then apple.com should do fine. They also have a large forum (mostly for tech help). If you want a another forum this should suit you.
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Originally posted by: oojason
my old P3 650mhz runs quite nicely on Windows 2000 still - and I don't see much point in getting a new pc or updating just because a new OS looks 'nicer'.
my old P3 650mhz runs quite nicely on Windows 2000 still - and I don't see much point in getting a new pc or updating just because a new OS looks 'nicer'.
I don't see the point, either. I'm running a P3 933mhz with XP and only 256mb RAM, and that's pretty low as it is. Vista would probably make my compy melt!
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I'm on W2K and am trying to decide between upgrading to XP or to Vista.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Now that Vista has been out for a bit, does anybody here have actual experience with it? I've read lots of opinions by those who haven't used it, and every new OS gets bashed for being a resource hog.
I'm on W2K and am trying to decide between upgrading to XP or to Vista.
Now that Vista has been out for a bit, does anybody here have actual experience with it? I've read lots of opinions by those who haven't used it, and every new OS gets bashed for being a resource hog.
I'm on W2K and am trying to decide between upgrading to XP or to Vista.
Not I. Heard too many nightmare stories. We're just starting to convert to XP here at work.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I'll never buy it. Getting an operating system that prevents you from "breaking the law" is like buying a car that won't allow you to drive over 55mph. And for the good folks who don't use their computers for such nefarious means, all the double-checking going on with the OS is hobbling their normal usage. As is said about laws, you shouldn't legislate morality.
I'll never buy it. Getting an operating system that prevents you from "breaking the law" is like buying a car that won't allow you to drive over 55mph. And for the good folks who don't use their computers for such nefarious means, all the double-checking going on with the OS is hobbling their normal usage. As is said about laws, you shouldn't legislate morality.
How does it prevent you from breaking the law?
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Vista, in my mind, is no different from OS X now. It has the same hardware requirements (we have a Mac downstairs that has a gig of RAM and a 3D card, which is mostly all that Vista needs). It does the same thing about asking whether or not you want to allow or deny things (Macs do this if you're doing things "outside the norm"). Once the computer is all setup though, it won't ask you those questions (assuming you don't add and remove software constantly).
I personally don't like it because we'll have to upgrade all our software and I need to adjust my login scripts. Our anti-virus and contact management don't run on it. Our VPN software doesn't run on it. So right now, all our new machines continue to be purchased with XP. Once we upgrade all our software though, I won't have a problem with upgrading to Vista.
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The fact that my initial experience with the program was on a LapTop made me really hate Vista at first, and now that I'm using it on a computer that's actually vaguely capable of running it... Well, my opinion isn't that much better. It still looks like a Mac Rip-off visually, and even though it's faster than it was on the laptop, it's way slower than it should be. Some of the computers at my college computer lab, I can type in my login and password, and then go to the restroom and still get back before it has my desktop loaded.
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they expect companies to redo all their software to be vista compliant rather than the other way around.
i thought XP problems were bad, compared to vista they are small hiccups.
windows 2000 was the last so called stable os in terms of testing the damn thing before they shipped it. had way less errors than XP or vista.
security on the XP os can be so easily compromised i swear microsoft has patches and updates all the time.
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Microsoft should have pushed Vista as a 64-bit OS (like Apple are doing for Leopard). For 32-bit stuff XP seems just fine, and is obviously very mature.
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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I don't use it except at school, where all the computers were upgraded from 2000 to Vista over the summer.
Was the hardware upgraded as well or did they just upgrade the OS? I would assume they upgraded the hardware. What are the specs? We just got three new machines at work. Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz with 2 GB of RAM. I installed Vista on one of them and it's the snappiest computer we have now. I also found out about a month ago that all of our software is fully compatible. So we're ready to upgrade to Vista, I just don't know if we will anytime soon or not.
Again, everyone releases patches for their OS all the time. OS X, Linux, Solaris, Windows, etc, etc. In fact, I think you'll find that Linux releases the most updates of the big three. OS X, to my knowledge, doesn't release very many, then again, I don't have many OS X machines to admin (just one).
The reason XP and 2k are so easily compromised is because people run as administrator. With Vista, MS is attempting to put a stop to that. Personally, once I've got a system setup, I don't see the "Cancel or Allow" dialog. The only people I know that see that message a lot are the ones that are constantly tweaking system settings. If you're seeing the cancel or allow dialog in normal day to day use, then you're either tweaking your system to much or you've already got some kind of virus on your system.
Originally posted by: miker71
any OS that displays a progress indicator for showing the contents of a folder has serious underlying issues IMO.
I don't use it except at school, where all the computers were upgraded from 2000 to Vista over the summer.
Was the hardware upgraded as well or did they just upgrade the OS? I would assume they upgraded the hardware. What are the specs? We just got three new machines at work. Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz with 2 GB of RAM. I installed Vista on one of them and it's the snappiest computer we have now. I also found out about a month ago that all of our software is fully compatible. So we're ready to upgrade to Vista, I just don't know if we will anytime soon or not.
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
vista is absolute rubbish 90% of software and programs will not run on it.
Care to backup that claim with a list of examples? I can backup my example of 100% compatibility with a full list.
Ah yes, the OS that "It'll ship before 2000!" And then it shipped late December 1999, just before 2000. Even though it wasn't available until January. XP is far more stable than 2000. I haven't been able to do any extensive testing on Vista yet, but it's probably even more stable than XP was. The largest problem people have had with Win2k and XP was bad hardware and/or bad drivers. I've seen it myself. A bad network or video driver could take down Win2k pretty easily if it was pushed just a little. XP was less so, but still had problems. Bad hardware was the next greatest problem. Bad memory will take out your whole system. So the problem isn't usually the OS, it's usually some kind of faulty hardware somewhere.
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
security on the XP os can be so easily compromised i swear microsoft has patches and updates all the time.
vista is absolute rubbish 90% of software and programs will not run on it.
Care to backup that claim with a list of examples? I can backup my example of 100% compatibility with a full list.
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
mircrosoft should not have released it until all the bugs were worked out.
Uh, yeah, because no OS has ever had bugs in it. Oh wait, OS X, Linux, Solaris, etc, etc have all been released and found to have bugs. It simply isn't possible to release a completely bug free piece of software. Even some things that they consider features, others considers bugs.
No, they expect companies to start writing their programs to not need full admin rights for anything except maybe during installation. For years MS has been telling developers that applications should only need admin when installing. For years, developers haven't really been listening and haven't been forced to make a change. With Vista, they're finally forcing them to do it right. This can be seen plainly on Vista by all the programs that have to be run "As administrator".
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
windows 2000 was the last so called stable os in terms of testing the damn thing before they shipped it. had way less errors than XP or vista.
mircrosoft should not have released it until all the bugs were worked out.
Uh, yeah, because no OS has ever had bugs in it. Oh wait, OS X, Linux, Solaris, etc, etc have all been released and found to have bugs. It simply isn't possible to release a completely bug free piece of software. Even some things that they consider features, others considers bugs.
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
they expect companies to redo all their software to be vista compliant rather than the other way around.
they expect companies to redo all their software to be vista compliant rather than the other way around.
No, they expect companies to start writing their programs to not need full admin rights for anything except maybe during installation. For years MS has been telling developers that applications should only need admin when installing. For years, developers haven't really been listening and haven't been forced to make a change. With Vista, they're finally forcing them to do it right. This can be seen plainly on Vista by all the programs that have to be run "As administrator".
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
windows 2000 was the last so called stable os in terms of testing the damn thing before they shipped it. had way less errors than XP or vista.
Ah yes, the OS that "It'll ship before 2000!" And then it shipped late December 1999, just before 2000. Even though it wasn't available until January. XP is far more stable than 2000. I haven't been able to do any extensive testing on Vista yet, but it's probably even more stable than XP was. The largest problem people have had with Win2k and XP was bad hardware and/or bad drivers. I've seen it myself. A bad network or video driver could take down Win2k pretty easily if it was pushed just a little. XP was less so, but still had problems. Bad hardware was the next greatest problem. Bad memory will take out your whole system. So the problem isn't usually the OS, it's usually some kind of faulty hardware somewhere.
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
security on the XP os can be so easily compromised i swear microsoft has patches and updates all the time.
Again, everyone releases patches for their OS all the time. OS X, Linux, Solaris, Windows, etc, etc. In fact, I think you'll find that Linux releases the most updates of the big three. OS X, to my knowledge, doesn't release very many, then again, I don't have many OS X machines to admin (just one).
The reason XP and 2k are so easily compromised is because people run as administrator. With Vista, MS is attempting to put a stop to that. Personally, once I've got a system setup, I don't see the "Cancel or Allow" dialog. The only people I know that see that message a lot are the ones that are constantly tweaking system settings. If you're seeing the cancel or allow dialog in normal day to day use, then you're either tweaking your system to much or you've already got some kind of virus on your system.
Originally posted by: miker71
any OS that displays a progress indicator for showing the contents of a folder has serious underlying issues IMO.
How large is the folder? I've only ever seen this happen when Vista was populating the Network area with machines or when it was reading a network share. Since that's going to be slower than local disk access, it seems pretty understandable. I'd rather see that than see nothing and not know what's going on.
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To be honest I'm still tempted to put 2000 (my fave OS from my old P3 laptop) or XP on it and take the Vista off and see how it does. To me Vista is a very memory and processor hog - which is uneccesary as it does nothing special or breathtaking.
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Originally posted by: oojason
^ I agree mate - I bought a very cheap Toshiba laptop from the US which has Vista Basic on. Rather than upgrade to Premium (about $100/£50) I found a Sidebar that works fine and use 'Visual Task Tips' to provide the 'Aero experience'.
To be honest I'm still tempted to put 2000 (my fave OS from my old P3 laptop) or XP on it and take the Vista off and see how it does. To me Vista is a very memory and processor hog - which is uneccesary as it does nothing special or breathtaking.
^ I agree mate - I bought a very cheap Toshiba laptop from the US which has Vista Basic on. Rather than upgrade to Premium (about $100/£50) I found a Sidebar that works fine and use 'Visual Task Tips' to provide the 'Aero experience'.
To be honest I'm still tempted to put 2000 (my fave OS from my old P3 laptop) or XP on it and take the Vista off and see how it does. To me Vista is a very memory and processor hog - which is uneccesary as it does nothing special or breathtaking.
What are the specs of the laptop? If it has anything under 2 GB of RAM, then yeah, it's not going to run Vista very well. If you've got integrated video with less than 2 GB of RAM, it's going to be slow. I can say the same thing about OS X though. Those machines all have some kind of accelerated 3D card in them (Nvidia I believe), so you'd never notice any lag. Take that card out, and it's no different from Vista. And oh yeah, OS X does nothing special or breathtaking either with all its "ooh" and "aah" "features".
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For some reason I did find Vista Premium runs quicker than Basic - though as I couldn't find a permanant (cough) way of upgrading the OS I reverted back to Basic.
Computers, eh?
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