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Onne said:

Honestly, I’ll be fully happy when I’m sure we’ll get the three movies in 4k/1080p blurays bundles (individually or as a box set).
Ok, I know I’m in the minority here (so please don’t trigger the Death Star at me!) : I like most of the special editions changes (minus “Han didn’t shot first”, Jabba in Mos Eisley, the Sarlacc beak and Jedi Rock to name a few) but do you think that this restoration will be used as a template to create a color timing accurate, non DNR’ed version of the SE? I would love to see “Definitive Editions” where all the problematic changes are reversed. Obviously, this brings a problem : what to keep and what to reverse? I think that the exemples that I cited could definitively be reversed. Then remaking the CGI in Mos Eisley with a modern technology would be enough. Those “Definitive Editions” would remain coherent with the prequels and peacefully coexist with the OOT. That would imply messing with George Lucas work, but isn’t Disney already doing it by releasing these OOT restorations?

This was discussed a few pages back, but I think it’s pretty unlikely they’re going to do anything with the Special Editions.

My guess is those will stay untouched, exactly as they are since that’s George’s version.

The color and CGI was overseen by George, and they’re exactly as he wants them.

Kathleen Kennedy was even asked years ago if they were going to make additional changes to the films and she was like “Oh, god no. Those will always be George’s. I would never touch those.”

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Broom Kid said:

I feel like it’s exceedingly likely they’re going to run back the 1997 Special Edition (20th Anniversary) release schedule. They’ll have a whole year of stuff. Theatrical releases in the spring, Starfighter in the summer, Merch/Streaming/Home Video in the fall, in time for the holidays.

They’re not going to stretch out Empire and Jedi on three year (or even one year) waits per movie. They already know that with each movie release the receipts for the trilogy decrease. That’s what happened in 1997, too. These movies are 40-50 yrs old. People aren’t going to wait on them to come out in yearly installments again. There is basically no anticipation for “what happens next” that makes such a thing feasible anymore. They’ve been consuming them AS a trilogy for about as long as it’s BEEN a trilogy.

They moved the release date of Star Wars’ re-release up from April to February 19th. That’s very likely because they’re making room for Empire and Jedi to squeeze in before Starfighter opens. And if they’re doing that, they’re 100% going to have a UHD/Blu-ray release and streaming drops on that same schedule.

My only real question is about the soundtracks. I really want to believe Mike Matessino and Neil S. Bulk (he used to visit here!) have been working on the glory-hallelujah blowout 9-film expanded/remastered set of all Williams’ scores.

But it’s December 2025. This isn’t really happening until February 2027. We got time for all those announcements to come out (or the evidence of their existence to leak, LOL)

I hope so, but if they were all being released at the same time, wouldn’t the announcement have mentioned Empire and Jedi too?

I don’t think they’re going to put all 3 in theaters at the same time.

They may release all 3 on home video in 2027, then do theatrical releases of Empire and Jedi in 2030 and 2033.

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The stars! The stars!

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They look great, don’t they?
 

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RM4747 said:

I hope so, but if they were all being released at the same time, wouldn’t the announcement have mentioned Empire and Jedi too?

No, because they didn’t do that on the first announcement, either. They originally said it would be “Star Wars: A New Hope” and said the release date was April. And then months later they said it was the original theatrical version, and the release date is now February.

We’ve got over a year until the 50th anniversary year actually kicks off. They’ve been working on all three movies since 2022. They’re not going to work on all three movies and then artificially withhold the other two by years when the 50th is right there. They’re not gonna announce everything all at once. They will add to the 50th celebration every couple months, more than likely, with new details as to what that entails, the closer we get to it.

I don’t think they’re going to put all 3 in theaters at the same time.

It’s exactly what they did for the 20th Anniversary. And it was (surprisingly!) huge. People forget now but the Special Edition wasn’t expected to do THAT much business. There’s no reason to think they won’t do it for the 50th Anniversary. It maybe won’t do AS much business now (nothing does, audiences have been steadily declining at the theaters SINCE the 90s, really) but I feel like people are going “there’s no way they’ll do that, they’ll milk it” more out of cynicism/skepticism nurtured over years and years, rather than looking at what they’ve been doing with all three movies basically SINCE they became a Trilogy in the 80s.

edit: I remain astounded at how NATURAL the colors look, especially on Star Wars. Every new leak shows just how striking the photography was on that movie.

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For the negatives apparently being so faded and in such rough shape, I’m amazed they were able to clean them up so well.

The raw scans are interesting to see: streamable. com/8xxg9h

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

If you watch the behind the scenes bonus feature about the 1997 restoration, they claimed the negatives even back then were already badly faded and in rough shape, and they said “If we don’t do it now, we’ll never be able to scan the negatives ever again!”

youtu. be/VhLUdy3RDpM

Well… thankfully that wasn’t true lol

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I’d still love to see another nine film 4k box set possibly with a better restoration of the 35 mm print for Phantom Menace

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Onne said:

I would love to see “Definitive Editions” where all the problematic changes are reversed. Obviously, this brings a problem : what to keep and what to reverse?

To make every fan happy, Disney must release this on the streaming service with a questionnaire that the viewer have to fill out before watching the movie:

Do you prefer
a) Han shoots first
b) Greedo shoots first

Do you prefer
a) Yub Nub
b) Victory celebration

…and 50 questions later the streaming will adjust the movie according to your input! 😄

But to answer more seriously: If they ever was gonna make to a “Definitive Edition”, they should base it on Hals “Custom Special Edition”.

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aGreatHumanBeing said:

Onne said:

I would love to see “Definitive Editions” where all the problematic changes are reversed. Obviously, this brings a problem : what to keep and what to reverse?

To make every fan happy, Disney must release this on the streaming service with a questionnaire that the viewer have to fill out before watching the movie:

Do you prefer
a) Han shoots first
b) Greedo shoots first

Do you prefer
a) Yub Nub
b) Victory celebration

…and 50 questions later the streaming will adjust the movie according to your input! 😄

Kathleen Kennedy reading this and banging her head on the desk 😆

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RM4747 said:

aGreatHumanBeing said:

Onne said:

I would love to see “Definitive Editions” where all the problematic changes are reversed. Obviously, this brings a problem : what to keep and what to reverse?

To make every fan happy, Disney must release this on the streaming service with a questionnaire that the viewer have to fill out before watching the movie:

Do you prefer
a) Han shoots first
b) Greedo shoots first

Do you prefer
a) Yub Nub
b) Victory celebration

…and 50 questions later the streaming will adjust the movie according to your input! 😄

Kathleen Kennedy reading this and banging her head on the desk 😆

“I think I’m ready to retire now…”

Me if I ever meet Kathleen Kennedy after this…
https://streamable.com/6gctjv

-TGWNN

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RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

-TGWNN

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RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

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YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

-TGWNN

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YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

That is to say, yes, but you don’t notice it. Being black and white films, their grain is finer than that of a 1970s color film. In fact, when YCM Labs made their corrected IP, which was used as the master for the 97SE, ultra-fine grain color films already existed. Therefore, in 2004 they wouldn’t have needed to use OCN to restore it so poorly in digital, since they had a perfect print, a literal copy of the negative without necessarily worse quality for being second generation, and with the SE additions and changes that George liked so much.

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YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

That is to say, yes, but you don’t notice it. Being black and white films, their grain is finer than that of a 1970s color film. In fact, when YCM Labs made their corrected IP, which was used as the master for the 97SE, ultra-fine grain color films already existed. Therefore, in 2004 they wouldn’t have needed to use OCN to restore it so poorly in digital, since they had a perfect print, a literal copy of the negative without necessarily worse quality for being second generation, and with the SE additions and changes that George liked so much.

If this were true, they’d always use the seps and not risk wear on the negative.

While they’re an extremely high quality second-gen copy, they’re still going to have some degree of generational loss…

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YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

That is to say, yes, but you don’t notice it. Being black and white films, their grain is finer than that of a 1970s color film. In fact, when YCM Labs made their corrected IP, which was used as the master for the 97SE, ultra-fine grain color films already existed. Therefore, in 2004 they wouldn’t have needed to use OCN to restore it so poorly in digital, since they had a perfect print, a literal copy of the negative without necessarily worse quality for being second generation, and with the SE additions and changes that George liked so much.

If this were true, they’d always use the seps and not risk wear on the negative.

While they’re an extremely high quality second-gen copy, they’re still going to have some degree of generational loss…

George is the same one who has insisted on using the negative whenever possible; that doesn’t change the fact that the separation masters together are a literal copy of the OCN. Ted Gagliano states: “You know the original negative will fade, so you can turn to the separation masters; it’s the record of what it’ll look like and it’ll last forever. So the negative you make off your YCMs should be just as good as the original negative.”

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YAREL_RGP said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

That is to say, yes, but you don’t notice it. Being black and white films, their grain is finer than that of a 1970s color film. In fact, when YCM Labs made their corrected IP, which was used as the master for the 97SE, ultra-fine grain color films already existed. Therefore, in 2004 they wouldn’t have needed to use OCN to restore it so poorly in digital, since they had a perfect print, a literal copy of the negative without necessarily worse quality for being second generation, and with the SE additions and changes that George liked so much.

If this were true, they’d always use the seps and not risk wear on the negative.

While they’re an extremely high quality second-gen copy, they’re still going to have some degree of generational loss…

George is the same one who has insisted on using the negative whenever possible

I don’t mean just Star Wars. Look at almost every major studio 4K release. Seps are only used in modern transfers when the negative is irreversibly damaged.

that doesn’t change the fact that the separation masters together are a literal copy of the OCN

So is an IP from that same point of view. Both are second gen. I don’t get your point.

Ted Gagliano states: “You know the original negative will fade, so you can turn to the separation masters; it’s the record of what it’ll look like and it’ll last forever. So the negative you make off your YCMs should be just as good as the original negative.”

He said this in 1997. I could see this being true if your goal is making release prints that are another three gens away. But for a 4K digital presentation—which did not exist in 1997—I’m doubtful the statement holds.

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I guess as long as enough remains on the negative for them to restore digitally, it’s best to use that.

The separation masters would technically be second gen, but not sure how noticeable it would be.

Christopher Nolan scans the interpositive instead of the OCN for his movies, and they still look great.

Since they’re doing color correction anyway, maybe it doesn’t matter as much.

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Just a head’s up, the separation masters consist of three different strips of film so 3 different layers of grain, scratches, dust etc.

Not to mention that film tends to shrink and warp over time so the images don’t always line up.

Thanks to modern technology, a lot of this can be overcome, but it requires more steps and manipulation of the image. The OCN is definitely preferable in this situation.

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Haarspalter said:

Hopes:

Of course an official announcement that the OT Theatrical Cuts are going to be released from Lucas’ ego prison. Not gonna happen…

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This Will Be A Day Long Remembered

One day we will have properly restored versions of the Original Unaltered Trilogy (OUT); or 1977, 1980, 1983 Theatrical released versions (Like 4K77,4K80 and 4K83); including Prequels. So that future generations can enjoy these historic films that changed cinema forever.

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NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON - AND A NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM STAR WARS…

 

ALI…

Is ALI cropped differently? On the wall with lights, the lowest rows third light from left is almost completely gone here. UHD and 4K77 on the other hand shows more of this light, and the blu(e) ray even more.

Sorry if this is already discussed.

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