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Why would Disney/LFL send the negative all the way to the UK (Cinelab) for scanning? Doesn’t seem like something they’d do.

I had missed that redacted pastebin partial. Any idea what the .WI source is? The others all make sense.
very interesting that they’ve partially re-recorded foley for the new 7.1 mix. That’s…well, maybe it’s understandable, but it’s surprising nonetheless.
VVI stands for Vista Vision Intermediate or Interpositive. This has been confirmed by the clips that have been named as such…
Ooooooh that makes so much sense. Thank you.
Yeah. For Star Wars 77 those shots would be limited to the many space or model ship shots…
-TGWNN

ALI…

 
UHD…

 
2011 Blu Ray…

 
4K77…

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No, sorry mate. I have just posted up a redacted segment of a pastebin document featuring the sources used for the ALI restoration - in FAQ #3 (along with the reasons why). I hope you and others understand why I won’t be posting them in full. 👍
Thanks oojason. It appears the pertinent information is there.
I was going to qualify my original request but I knew you would likely hold back on posting anything compromising.
In one of the documents there is mention of a published cropping standard for all three films Which is apparently being used. ROTJ seems to have the widest cropping; seeming to be even wider than the official release, though ESB and ANH are much, much more tight. From what we can tell the final cropping will most likely be different.
Thank you.
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Yes, my thanks too. My initial post thanked oojason for posting them, not knowing who to attribute them to.
a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/qqydrw
I’m flabbergasted that we’re still getting clips.
Unless it’s a backdoor plan to get unofficial feedback from technically-minded fans
It blows my mind too, but I’m not going to pretend to understand what is going on.
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Yes, my thanks too. My initial post thanked oojason for posting them, not knowing who to attribute them to.
a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/qqydrw
I’m flabbergasted that we’re still getting clips.
Unless it’s a backdoor plan to get unofficial feedback from technically-minded fans
It blows my mind too, but I’m not going to pretend to understand what is going on.
😉
 
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Why would Disney/LFL send the negative all the way to the UK (Cinelab) for scanning? Doesn’t seem like something they’d do.

ALI…

 
UHD…

 
2011 blu ray…

 
4K77…

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that’s not what the UHD looks like

that’s not what the UHD looks like
Are you sure, Little Nemo?
I don’t create the comparison images - though I’ve double-checked to make sure I didn’t make a mistake on the ‘image comparison’ upload… and also put in the UHD disc to have a look - and the scene does indeed look a lot like that.
Is there a particular reason why you think this image does not look like the UHD? Have you a screenshot for comparison etc? 👍
 
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I know screencaps are an imperfect science (I also think I’m a frame off) but when I try I get this:
UHD

vs. the above

…which feels like it’s had some of the blue sucked out and highlights surpressed

Different methods of sdr conversion will produce different results.

The more I look at it, the more the ALI looks similar to 4K77…
I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.
Star Wars has 3 eras: The eras are 1977-1983(pre Expanded Universe), (1983-2014) expanded universe, or (2014- now) Disney-bought version. Each are valid.
My movie reviews aren’t AI, they’re just written by someone who’s Neurodivergent. If you don’t like them, then simply don’t read them.

I know screencaps are an imperfect science (I also think I’m a frame off) but when I try I get this:
UHD
vs. the above
…which feels like it’s had some of the blue sucked out and highlights surpressed
Thanks for doing that, mate. Hopefully the person who does the image comparisons will see it and be able to explain the difference (though could be something akin to what Fang Zei posted above too - or screen calibration / settings differences). 👍
 
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I know screencaps are an imperfect science (I also think I’m a frame off) but when I try I get this:
UHD
vs. the above
…which feels like it’s had some of the blue sucked out and highlights surpressed
What source are you using for the UHD? And what HDR to SDR converter?
-TGWNN

I have no clue what source you’re using, but it’s completely wrong.
Here’s the UHD with HDR simulation:

And here’s the SDR 1080p BD:

And here’s yours:

I haven’t got a clue where you’ve sourced your screencap from, but it doesn’t look like the UDH. Not even close. Please check your sources before correcting people in the future.
-TGWNN

ALI…

 
UHD…

 
2011 blu ray…

 
4K83…

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I still find it strange that the VistaVision intermediate film hasn’t been scanned at 8K. I don’t know if 6K is really that good, because even though VistaVision is high quality, how comparable is it to a 65mm film to warrant scanning it at 8K?

NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON - AND A NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM RETURN OF THE JEDI…
ALI…
UHD…
2011 blu ray…
4K83…
a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/q1txlq
I still find it strange that the VistaVision intermediate film hasn’t been scanned at 8K. I don’t know if 6K is really that good, because even though VistaVision is high quality, how comparable is it to a 65mm film to warrant scanning it at 8K?
I’m not sure why you’re mentioning Vistavision, as only a handful of shots were printed on that stock. The reason this shot is labeled as such is most likely a typo, as the last ROTJ shot (palace door matte) was a VVI, and that has been carried into the title of this new clip. Either way, according to the docs, all effects shots are, in fact, being scanned in 8K. This shot, which isn’t a VVI, was most likely scanned at 6K. At least according to the documents.
-TGWNN

ALI…

 
4K77…

 
ALI…

 
4K77…

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It looks like the font has changed on the ALI versions in that it’s regular, vs bold on the 4k77.

Can we add the UHD to the comparison of “A long time ago” ?

It looks like the font has changed on the ALI versions in that it’s regular, vs bold on the 4k77.
It’s not. It’s the exact same font. It’s just that 4K77 has brighter highlights Which gives the illusion of a different font. But it’s the same font and even fades in and out at the exact same time.
-TGWNN

Thanks for that info. Good to hear!