⭐ Star Wars' 50th anniversary in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations (if any)... — Page 2

I specifically avoided the Revenge reissue release because the ticket price was 20 dollars and standard laser DCP. On their smallest crap screen. At AMC. Meanwhile Sinners was on the Imax. If it was the Imax I would have paid as much as 25 dollars.

It wasn’t even in the Dolby cinema that was some other movie too.

Reminds me of when I wanted to see Dead Reckoning and both Imax screens were showing Barbie and Oppenheimer.

If this is not the original cut they can forget about it. 1981 release I probably would see just for the hell of it, but they aren’t doing that, Lucas and his vision and all that speak.

Even if I despise the title A New Hope.

To be 100% transparent the 2020 Maclunky cut from the official 4K home video release, Dead on Arrival. For me at least, although so many people will just go see it anyway. They don’t care it’s not the real deal. A lot of them like Lucas so called enhancements. And won’t mind seeing Han shoot second in 4K. or the awful Artoo behind cgi rocks. Of the three films it is the least ruined 4k release. It had a ton of DNR but not ruinous like Empire. And the Atmos mix is not bad. It’s not the actual movie, it’s a redone mix but for modern mixes it’s as tasteful as you can get.

TBH the only Star Wars I’m waiting and hoping to see is the 70mm Star Wars. Since Lucasfilm is not going to restore the oot for home viewing in any century without Lucas’s consent. He is more in tune and interested with his museum of narrative art and his charitable causes and god love him for that, but I want Star Wars. Not A New Hope.

George is never relenting, he is a known quantity. He never apologizes and he never forgives, he never comprises. And he always wins. He likes it that way, fans be damned. Unless suddenly the man has mellowed, and says give those Gen X haters of the prequels the originals. He is more likely to withhold them even more, due to his quote they throw rocks at me. They do fanedits of my movie, it’s my movie. I’m paraphrasing but he said similar things. He also said the original movie was crap because it was a laserdisc. That whopper was at Cannes.

Considering I’ve never had a chance to see Star Wars in theaters in general, I’d undoubtedly go to this regardless of cut. Obviously I’m hoping for the OUT, but I won’t hold my breath. We went through similar speculation for the 40th anniversary with absolutely nothing to show for it.

It’s definitely going to be the Disney+ one, unfortunately

Wazzles said:

Considering I’ve never had a chance to see Star Wars in theaters in general, I’d undoubtedly go to this regardless of cut. Obviously I’m hoping for the OUT, but I won’t hold my breath. We went through similar speculation for the 40th anniversary with absolutely nothing to show for it.

And the 30th and only got the Rinzler book and no film.

JadedSkywalker said:

Wazzles said:

Considering I’ve never had a chance to see Star Wars in theaters in general, I’d undoubtedly go to this regardless of cut. Obviously I’m hoping for the OUT, but I won’t hold my breath. We went through similar speculation for the 40th anniversary with absolutely nothing to show for it.

And the 30th and only got the Rinzler book and no film.

I was also 14 and too busy focusing on Halo 3 😁

30th in 2007: George wanted to hype up The Clone Wars.

40th in 2017: Right in the middle of the ST. Episode VIII had literally been penciled in for Memorial Day Weekend that year until RJ asked for more time to work on the script.

50th in 2027? I’ll just note, by that point the 2019/2020 transfers will have been out there for more than seven years, with the underlying 4k scan possibly dating back as far as 2012. Even if this is still George’s Preferred Version, I wouldn’t be shocked if it ends up being a brand new master they can show off in Imax.

I’m excited about this but I’m not holding my breath for a re-release of the original theatrical cut. I hope we get it but I won’t be surprised if we don’t

It’s got to be the Maclunkey version, especially after that Kathleen Kennedy speech about the BFI print being super rare and whatever. Even the name has been revised again! The sequel trilogy era convention of losing the numbered episode is still in effect.

Edit: the online press thing claiming this is a “once in a generation event” is weird too. Like, is it the 1977 version? If it’s not why is this such a special event? If it is are they going to put it into a vault for a few decades and not stream it until a new generation grows up? What are they talking about?

Mocata said:

It’s got to be the Maclunkey version, especially after that Kathleen Kennedy speech about the BFI print being super rare and whatever. Even the name has been revised again! The sequel trilogy era convention of losing the numbered episode is still in effect.

Edit: the online press thing claiming this is a “once in a generation event” is weird too. Like, is it the 1977 version? If it’s not why is this such a special event? If it is are they going to put it into a vault for a few decades and not stream it until a new generation grows up? What are they talking about?

There hasn’t been a wide theatrical release of the original movie - any version of it - since 1997.

So, in that very specific sense it’s a “once in a generation event.”

Referring to it as Star Wars: A New Hope could simply be to specify it’s the original since there’s been a million other things since then and simply calling it “Star Wars” might just confuse people at this point. Yeah, that’s all it was called for the first four years but we’ve had another 44 years of it being a franchise since then. That’s probably an overly optimistic read re: whether or not it’s the original version, though.

I can’t help wondering if they’re announcing it this far ahead of time so they can gauge everyone’s reactions and see just what it is people want.

This will undoubtedly be the 2019 ¤k release.

Did anyone check out Eck’s video he made on the announcement now that we might have a little more context for the potential scoop he broke that the German article benduwan posted in this thread almost a month ago mentions?

https://youtu.be/Q36HagGPPUc?si=QUp8rn8EiWMqunRV

At the 3:20 mark he actually shows what he claims are screenshots from the allegedly official restoration project that accidentally made some clips public.

He also claims that this restoration is using alternate takes of certain lines of dialogue because they are of better quality than what was previously available. If that’s actually true, not sure how I feel about it. Obviously there were multiple different soundtracks heard in 1977 with different dialogue takes in certain scenes (maybe Eck is getting what he heard confused with this?), and yes they would still be using original recordings from ‘76/‘77, but unless it’s matching one exact version that would’ve been heard in theaters back then it’s not really preserving the movie as originally exhibited.

The Coppola restoration of The Godfather apparently used an alternate take of a shot in one scene IIRC, so this kind of approach isn’t unprecedented.

Anyway, just thought I’d share for anyone who wants to compare the alleged screenshots to any official releases as well as the various preservation projects.

Fang Zei said:

Did anyone check out Eck’s video he made on the announcement now that we might have a little more context for the potential scoop he broke that the German article benduwan posted in this thread almost a month ago mentions?

https://youtu.be/Q36HagGPPUc?si=QUp8rn8EiWMqunRV

At the 3:20 mark he actually shows what he claims are screenshots from the allegedly official restoration project that accidentally made some clips public.

He also claims that this restoration is using alternate takes of certain lines of dialogue because they are of better quality than what was previously available. If that’s actually true, not sure how I feel about it. Obviously there were multiple different soundtracks heard in 1977 with different dialogue takes in certain scenes (maybe Eck is getting what he heard confused with this?), and yes they would still be using original recordings from ‘76/‘77, but unless it’s matching one exact version that would’ve been heard in theaters back then it’s not really preserving the movie as originally exhibited.

The Coppola restoration of The Godfather apparently used an alternate take of a shot in one scene IIRC, so this kind of approach isn’t unprecedented.

Anyway, just thought I’d share for anyone who wants to compare the alleged screenshots to any official releases as well as the various preservation projects.

Hopefully after all these years, George & Disney will see sense & do a clean up of the film we saw in '77, no CGI updates, keep in all the elements that won all those Academy Awards

J

Interesting but vague. Does anyone here believe that screenshot he posted was legit? It’s not a lot to go on.

That does not mean its intended for release even if there is a restoration. It could be just to put it back into Disney’s vault. To protect their assets.

What are the odds Lucas relented. Look how angry he got that Disney did not use his story treatments, you think he wants the original of Star Wars available.

I wonder if Disney can do it against his wishes. If they actually have a contract that prevents them from releasing them.

JadedSkywalker said:

Look how angry he got that Disney did not use his story treatments,

Yet there was nothing he could do to stop that.

I get not wanting him to trash them in the press, though. That’s why I suspect the recent announcement might turn out to be a kind of “final edition” where he gets to go crazy making any last changes he wants to on their dime and in exchange they get to include the restored unaltered versions without him badmouthing them for it.

George himself would’ve probably gotten around to it sooner rather than later if he hadn’t sold the company. He wouldn’t have been able to justify not doing it in the early 2010’s when all that was keeping Lucasfilm going was The Clone Wars. Now his former company is just another part of Disney. They’ve been able to hold off on something like that because they have a million other revenue sources. But it hasn’t been all smooth sailing for Lucasfilm these last several years and even they have to eventually ask themselves whether it’s worth it to keep the most conspicuously absent other version of a movie ever made locked in a vault.

rocknroll41 said:

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet but:

New rumor going around is that the theatrical re-release of Star Wars A New Hope planned for 2027 will be the original, unaltered version… but they might use AI to upscale it to 8k/ 120 frames per sec.

You joke (I think?) but Cameron literally used that TrueCut technology to “motion grade” certain scenes in Titanic and Avatar for 48 frames per second.

Firstly that one Ecks guy said the new version of SW had grain, which sounds more realistic as a leak.

Second what are they talking about 8k 120FPS, that’s not a thing right? I mean I hope, the high-frame rate stuff always look like utter crap, I thought it died out.

Mocata said:

Firstly that one Ecks guy said the version of SW had grain, which sounds more realistic as a leak.

Second what are they talking about 8k 120FPS, that’s not a thing right? I mean I hope, the high-frame rate stuff always look like utter crap, I was hoping it died out.

If they’re actually getting George to sign off on a motion-graded version of the SE then I could see it happening. He was kinda following Cameron’s lead converting TPM to 3D back in 2012 just before Titanic’s conversion came out. Avatar and Titanic were remastered yet again within the last several years and this time around there were certain scenes motion-graded to 48p for theaters capable of projecting in high framerate. I heard there were even certain theaters showing Way of Water in regular 2D in HFR, so it clearly wasn’t just to make the 3D smoother.

The 8k thing was also mentioned in the sample of one of the alleged “leaked documents” Eck was sent, specifically in reference to the vfx shots and how they require higher resolution to “disentangle” as someone put it.

Almost makes me wonder if someone else heard 8k and conflated it with 120p. This most recent rumor also mentioned AI which again feels like someone jumping to conclusions.

There is a market if you live in Japan have an 8k television set and NHK television which broadcasts 8k movies like 2001 a Space Odyssey. I don’t think that is Disney’s demo.

As for my personal opinion about higher than 24fps I saw the Hobbit in 48 frames per second and it looked horrid like video. I was generally unimpressed they chose to shoot on digital for 3D over film in any case since Lord of the Rings was shot on Super 35.

Honestly anything over 4k seems like overkill for consumers anyway. You can scan higher for sure if your final output is 4K.

Well maybe lots of people enjoyed it when The Hobbit looked like a daytime TV reality show, but I hope it doesn’t come back.