Finished my VisComp for Star Trek: The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition DVD. There’s hundreds of tweaks I didn’t catch, but it goes to show you how subtle the original version was.
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‘Star Trek Discovery fans angry as new season is pulled days before launch’:-
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59316606
'Star Trek fans have been left livid after the global release of the new season of spin-off show Discovery was pulled days before its planned launch.
The fourth season of the sci-fi series had been due to launch outside North America on Netflix on Friday.
However, Netflix has lost the global rights to Paramount, which will now put the show on its own streaming service.
Viewers outside the US and Canada must wait until Paramount+ launches in 20 countries including the UK next year.
A statement said it would be available in early 2022, but an exact date and plans for the rest of the world have not been announced.’
https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1460714359588483074
^ Seems to read like a vague ‘STFU and put up with it’.
As someone else said elsewhere…
'Incredible PR work, sending cast members to Destination Star Trek in London the weekend to plug the season starting this week, then 48 hours later saying “oh, and by the way you c**** aren’t getting to see it,” 48 hours before it’s due. The PR skills are amazing. Fuck ‘em’.
It seems cast and crew, whilst on the PR tour of Europe, weren’t aware of this either (and share the ‘understandably upset’ and ‘disappointment & frustration’):-
https://twitter.com/albinokid/status/1460811969053745158
I’m sure nobody knows of other ways and means to watch such shows meanwhile…
And I’m quite sure everyone will be simply counting down the days until they are able to subscribe to such a service that doesn’t exist for them yet - with no availability date even given. Whilst likely being subject to massive spoilers online for episodes that air in the US & Canada…
A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
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I won’t see it til it is on blu ray or digital whichever is cheaper.
Paramount plus isn’t for me. I have the Blu ray steelbook for season 3 and i’m fine with waiting.
They are recompositing shots from the 65mm negative effects work of Doug Trumbull with modern tech for the 4K of the directors cut of the motion picture.
I wonder if its to reduce grain and, does the digital composite done now today have no matte lines?
You can tell from the preview images they’ve eliminated the matte lines AND increased the quality.
https://twitter.com/startrekviscomp/status/1486164666179112964?s=21
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https://variety.com/2022/film/news/star-trek-chris-pine-zachary-quinto-zoe-saldana-1235021307/
I’m not optimistic about the script, given their track record, but maybe…
They finally recast Kirk Prime. For Strange New Worlds.
I’ve never been the biggest Star Trek fan but I occasionally would watch the original series when it came on TV and watched J.J.'s 2009 film when it came out. I really enjoyed the film as a casual viewer and found the TV series to be fine but nothing earth shattering. I never really truly got into it but recently I decided to watch clips for the original series and I found I like it a lot more now. I do find I like Next Generation the best of what I’ve seen with the shows but we’ll see as I watch the original series properly if it overtakes it. I definitely want to watch the movie for Star Trek: V at some point as the premise intrigues me more than it seems to most Trekkies.
What would Trekkies say are essential things about it that I need to know?
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
I’m not digging the DVNR on the 4K directors edition of Star Trek TMP if the trailer is anything to go by. What is the point of going back to the 65mm negative which wouldn’t have as much grain. If they were going to make it look like a movie shot today digitally. I guess its a pass for me.
What would Trekkies say are essential things about it that I need to know?
I’d say you’re well on your way. Familiarity with TOS and TNG is the baseline for the franchise.
I wasn’t expecting this. Not all at once. But am glad it is happening 😃
“The other Sequels were the result of an over-anxious press. The original intention was to make three [films], and that was really the end of it. It was not until 10 years after the first [film] that I thought of doing a back story.” - George Lucas, speaking at the Premiere of ROTS in 2005
I wasn’t expecting this. Not all at once. But am glad it is happening 😃
Given that this is their final season, let’s hope they pull off the sort of swan song they never got, something akin in feel to The Undiscovered Country.
Given that this is their final season, let’s hope they pull off the sort of swan song they never got, something akin in feel to The Undiscovered Country.
They had their perfect send off in All Good Things. The movies that followed and the Picard series in particular highlight the truth in the saying you can never go home again.
I feel sorry for the fans who held off watching the new series but will now start doing so in anticipation for season 3. As the first season is one of the most cynical, cold and cruel things I’ve ever watched. I’d never been personally offended by a television series before this. And the second season isn’t much better. What they’ve done to Gene Roddenberry’s vision is unforgivable.
Given that this is their final season, let’s hope they pull off the sort of swan song they never got, something akin in feel to The Undiscovered Country.
I’d never been personally offended by a television series before this.
Not even Game of Thrones season eight, the season that eliminated Game of Thrones from the pop culture zeitgeist?
TOS had a great sendoff only if you pretend Generations didn’t happen. I’d like to see Kirk’s final words be second star to the right and straight on til morning. Not some Nexus thing that didn’t make sense. and now he only exists as an echo in the nexus. While Spock got lost and died in the JJ timeline.
Whoever did this new matte shot for the 4k TMP Directors edition should get fired. did anyone even bother to check their work? The new matte created for the DVD Directors Edition looked fine, but when they recreated it for the 4k version, no care seems to have gone into it at all. The whole thing looks horrendous. (#1 is just speculation on my part as to what have caused this anomaly, but it does look like this is a likely method used to blend the matte overlay into the background in order to not have to rotoscope each individual character.)
In fact, the original matte looks 100 times better
Hopefully they’ll be able to go back and tweak some of the weaker rotoscoping like this. The edit and sound are incredible, save for a few shots!
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What would Trekkies say are essential things about it that I need to know?
I’d say you’re well on your way. Familiarity with TOS and TNG is the baseline for the franchise.
Thank you! I shall continue getting into it through both. Star Trek was always this mysterious and foreign thing for me but since looking into it again recently it started to click for me just how much I think I could potentially end up really liking it.
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
Given that this is their final season, let’s hope they pull off the sort of swan song they never got, something akin in feel to The Undiscovered Country.
They had their perfect send off in All Good Things. The movies that followed and the Picard series in particular highlight the truth in the saying you can never go home again.
I feel sorry for the fans who held off watching the new series but will now start doing so in anticipation for season 3. As the first season is one of the most cynical, cold and cruel things I’ve ever watched. I’d never been personally offended by a television series before this. And the second season isn’t much better. What they’ve done to Gene Roddenberry’s vision is unforgivable.
I have not seen any new Trek since Star Trek Beyond, but I have enjoyed reading the plot summaries of Picard Season 2 (Season 1 sounded too convoluted IMHO, but, again, hard to judge without actually watching it) - it sounds like a fairly plausible Q Episode, maybe a two-parter, stretched to season-length. Q does something stupid to mess with Picard and test him in some way, but this time there’s time-travel involved as well, and a look at what is essentially the Mirror Universe (but not, for canon-reasons). Sure, why not.
You make a good point about All Good Things, though. That is, indeed, the perfect series finale.
I’ve always been a huge Star Trek fan since I was a kid. Star Trek was the first sci-fi saga I discovered, I discovered Star Trek even before discovering Star Wars. I’ve always loved it and I’ll always continue to love it. But I don’t approve of what Star Trek has turned into after the conclusion of Enterprise. My Star Trek personal Canon is basically this:
In my opinion, everything else is so far from Gene Roddenberry’s vision that it doesn’t deserve any consideration. To me Star Trek ended in 2005, just like the Skywalker Saga.
«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)
I’m hoping that Strange New Worlds is good, as well as the 4th Kelvin film. I haven’t given up on Disco yet but its had 4 seasons to become Star Trek and it hasn’t i’m also hoping season 3 of Picard is finally respectful of the legacy.
Maybe someday they’ll publish Lucas Star Wars sequel ideas in a book, novelize them or make a graphic novel about them. I’d really dig them doing something like The Star Wars graphic novel not just for the Lucas sequels. But for Duel of the Fates and for Leigh Brackett’s Star Wars II.
Hated the trailer for Picard season 3 looks like Star Trek Nemesis meets Into Darkness. Its more Space Revenge supervillain again. They can’t do anything new can they? How many times do they have to redo the Khan style story.
I’d still argue that the Picard series is at least on par with the TNG movies and in many ways it’s better in character development, world building, and raising interesting ideas. That said, the best examples of the 90s shows still blow it out of the water.
Finally got around to watching the 4K release of The Undiscovered Country (Extended Cut) last night. The picture quality was, to my eye at least, beautiful. Only a few of the space shots looked model-y, and that’s because they are (and it wasn’t that bad), and I was struck by how some of them, especially towards the end of the movie, felt very TOS in their composition (in contrast with the more dynamic, fancy cinematic shots), but not in a bad way. The acting is, of course, great, though some of the dialogue is ridiculous (“If my surmise is correct those boots will cling to the killers’ necks like a pair of Tiberian bats”).
The movie was really interesting and strange, however, given it’s place in history and current events. It never tries to hide the fact that it’s about the end of the Cold War, but I was a very little kid when the movie debuted and have little sense, myself, of how strange detante with the Soviets must have felt. And yet, given recent events in Ukraine, I felt more understanding of Kirk & McCoy’s attitude towards the Klingons than ever before. Glasnost & Perestroika were wonderful ideas, but it’s so, so hard to not be cynical about where it’s all lead. But I can’t deny that Spock & Gorkon are right, it’s just so difficult.
Oh also the storyline on the Enterprise, with Detective Spock-lock (Sher-spock?), is the better part of the middle act. Rura Penthe sounds cool, but honestly it wasn’t that great.
What would Trekkies say are essential things about it that I need to know?
I’d say you’re well on your way. Familiarity with TOS and TNG is the baseline for the franchise.
Thank you! I shall continue getting into it through both. Star Trek was always this mysterious and foreign thing for me but since looking into it again recently it started to click for me just how much I think I could potentially end up really liking it.
Star Trek is great. While I am a Warsian first and foremost, I am also major fan of Trek.
My recommends are:
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Next Generation
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
Star Trek IV: The Journey Home
Star Trek Brave New Worlds
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