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but of course...
its on StarWars.com
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
we should get kevin smith to help us


Agreed. Anyone have any thoughts as to how to get ahold of him?

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okay i didnt know where to put this and i apologize for my language in advance....

Star Wars Trilogy 2004 Release

if you read the first paragraph in that article tell me what you see?

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Fox Home Entertainment have revealed some new details on the Region 1 DVD release of the Star Wars Trilogy due to arrive in separate widescreen and full screen editions on 21st September 2004 with a retail price of $69.98 each. The four-disc sets will present the original trilogy with digitally remastered THX Certified transfers and new English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX Surround mixes alongside the original English, Spanish and French Dolby Surround tracks.


well i think its about time you guys got rid of the name DVDTimes and called yourself worst fuckin dvd site in the world because guess what dipshits?
its not the "original trilogy"!!!!!

OMFG!
what the hell are wrong with these people?
do they have their heads so far up their asses that they don't notice the difference...

im not even gonna continue with what i was gonna say cuz this is the like 100th time ive seen a site reporting this release as the OT...

hell someone start a thread where we can just post links to other sites calling it the OT...
i guarentee we would have over 10 pages in less than a week
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Site #1: Starwars.com
Site #2: Theforce.net

And I'm sure it goes on and on and on...I sympathize with you, Luke. If they called these the 2004 Special Editions and were marketing them as such, it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal. But first, we got the news that only the Special Editions were to be released, then after awhile, Lucasfilm was simply advertising them as the Star Wars Trilogy, releasing action figures from Hasbro that are supposed to be like the Vintage lines but aren't. Now everyone's just lazily calling them the Star Wars Trilogy, which, while I know most consumers aren't going to give much of a damn about, is still misleading and annoying for those of us that know that there are umpteen versions out there. I've thought about it a bit over the past few days, and I've realized that I don't hate the upcoming release per se. What I hate is A) Only the new versions are to be released, and B) That Lucasfilm is covering up that fact by using the simple 'Star Wars Trilogy' tag. Though I did learn that they're not just now becoming lazy. I didn't find myself buying the trilogy until 2002 (much to my regret), and the set that I have (obviously SE) is just labeled 'The Star Wars Trilogy,' with no reference to the SE changes anywhere. So it's not a new exclusion unfortunately, though still a pain.

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You think Smith would help?


I'm not too familiar with Smith's work, but I do know that he's a huge Star Wars fan, and has made Star Wars references in most (if not all) of his films. I've heard that Smith allegedly made a couple of the Phantom Edits floating around out there (not that it's true, and not to say that I didn't misread it, but if it's true, it means he isn't a Lucas worshipper, not a huge fan of the Prequels, and hence probably supports the release of the Originals).
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
okay i didnt know where to put this and i apologize for my language in advance....

Star Wars Trilogy 2004 Release

if you read the first paragraph in that article tell me what you see?

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Fox Home Entertainment have revealed some new details on the Region 1 DVD release of the Star Wars Trilogy due to arrive in separate widescreen and full screen editions on 21st September 2004 with a retail price of $69.98 each. The four-disc sets will present the original trilogy with digitally remastered THX Certified transfers and new English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX Surround mixes alongside the original English, Spanish and French Dolby Surround tracks.


well i think its about time you guys got rid of the name DVDTimes and called yourself worst feeliing dvd site in the world because guess what dipshots?
its not the "original trilogy"!!!!!

!!!!
what the shell is wrong with these people?
do they have their heads so far up their butts that they don't notice the difference...

im not even gonna continue with what i was gonna say cuz this is the like 100th time ive seen a site reporting this release as the OT...

tell someone start a thread where we can just post links to other sites calling it the OT...
i guarentee we would have over 10 pages in less than a week



Remeber, by "Original Trilogy", they mean "A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi" as oposed to the "Prequel Trilogy" TMP ATOC and ROTS.

It has nothing to do with the version. It just means that they aren't the prequels. I assume your probably intellignet enought to figure that out on your own, but just feel like complaining about the changes anyway.

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
okay i didnt know where to put this and i apologize for my language in advance....

Star Wars Trilogy 2004 Release

if you read the first paragraph in that article tell me what you see?

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Fox Home Entertainment have revealed some new details on the Region 1 DVD release of the Star Wars Trilogy due to arrive in separate widescreen and full screen editions on 21st September 2004 with a retail price of $69.98 each. The four-disc sets will present the original trilogy with digitally remastered THX Certified transfers and new English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX Surround mixes alongside the original English, Spanish and French Dolby Surround tracks.


well i think its about time you guys got rid of the name DVDTimes and called yourself worst feeliing dvd site in the world because guess what dipshots?
its not the "original trilogy"!!!!!

!!!!
what the shell is wrong with these people?
do they have their heads so far up their butts that they don't notice the difference...

im not even gonna continue with what i was gonna say cuz this is the like 100th time ive seen a site reporting this release as the OT...

tell someone start a thread where we can just post links to other sites calling it the OT...
i guarentee we would have over 10 pages in less than a week



Remeber, by "Original Trilogy", they mean "A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi" as oposed to the "Prequel Trilogy" TMP ATOC and ROTS.

It has nothing to do with the version. It just means that they aren't the prequels. I assume your probably intellignet enought to figure that out on your own, but just feel like complaining about the changes anyway.


Shoot. Thanks for pointing that out, Chaltab. I thought I saw Original Versions when I read that, even though my misgivings still remain. I wouldn't have commented with as big of a rant as I did had I looked at it right. This release just has 'massive confusion' written all over it.
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i know they're the originals too... but when the released the SE they called it the star wars trilogy Special Edition...
get it?

at least give it some sort of distinction from what is ultimatly known as the Star Wars Trilogy...

why did he give the SE the name SE if those are how he originally saw Star Wars the whole time?
i just find it to be a big web of lies with Lucas...
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Everything about it is lies! The entire marketing campaign. From the poster art, to other Star Wars items, not related to the DVD's. The problem is, nobody says anything about it, or they don't realize it, or they just don't care. Which is sad.
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indeed it is...
i wonder if the sites that are giving the descriptions on these dvd sets are word for word from Lucas... or if its what they came up with by themselves..

if they did it themselves those people definatly need to be fired for their misinformation...
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Remeber, by "Original Trilogy", they mean "A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi" as oposed to the "Prequel Trilogy" TMP ATOC and ROTS.

It has nothing to do with the version. It just means that they aren't the prequels. I assume your probably intellignet enought to figure that out on your own, but just feel like complaining about the changes anyway.



Yes we do know the difference due to our love of SW and/or total geekness. However, it's the general public, who are going to buy 99% of the dvds, that don't know the difference and assume it really is the "original versions" (even though they probably wouldn't know the difference).

I have yet to find someone in my personal life (friends, family, co-workers, ect and who isn't a hardcore sw/movie person, but is interested in the dvds) who has any idea that these aren't the "original versions". I'm constantly having to inform people that there are 'changes' in the official dvds, since they assume that by "Original Trilogy" they are watching the pre-se/original versions.


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Hopefully enough people will get pissed off once they learn the official DVDs are a further altered SE version (without the SE moniker), and will hound LFL to give them what is now being called the "classic" version on DVD.
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If you guys want Kevin's help, try posting on HIS forum. He is constantly lurking at the official ViewAskew.com forum. That's your best bet.He's well aware of the hype surrounding SW. He was himself once rumoured to be a Phantom Editor.
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You can also try e-mailing view askew. Unlike many directors, if something interesting comes across the eyes of his screeners, he will respond. Another good way to get all View Askewers involved is to e-mail a help request to the guys at newsaskew.com. They are the official information source for View Askew stuff. Good guys.
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^ woh.

That's a disgrace m8, and blatently false advertising.

My opinion of GL sinks even lower...

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This?

Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope was originally released in 1977 and has a running time of 125 minutes. Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980 and is 135 minutes. Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi was released in 1983 and has a running time of 130 minutes. All three films have been rated PG by the Motion Picture Association of America and are rated PG in Canada.

I don't think that's misleading, but a warning would be fine.
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It's kind of funny, the dates and the movie lengths don't match up. The lengths here are of the special editions.
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Chaltab, that's just the SRP (Suggested Retail Price). The regular store price will like be between US$50-60 with first-week sale prices of US$40-45. All movies and other items that are sold have what manufacturer's refer to as the SRP or MSRP. This is what the manufacturer sees as being the ideal price. Almost never holds up once it's on the shelves. Usually just a bit lower. The SRP on the Simpsons sets are about US$45-50 and they have a pretty common shelf price of US$35-40.
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i found the first season of simpsons for $15 last week... couldnt believe my eyes...

but back on topic i still think its some form of false advertising or misleading the customer...
either way they should not be calling these the Original Trilogy (just for consumer's benefit of knowing what version it is) and they should not be saying these are the movies from 77, 80, and 83...
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Anyone read the new Homing Beacon? #17? It's is another prime example of misleading advertising. Here it is...

Though most fans would find it hard to believe, there was a time when Star Wars was a huge gamble. Gary Kurtz, the producer of the original Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, had to face a world of skeptical studios executives who couldn't fathom George Lucas' outer space fantasy ever becoming a crowd-pleaser. "The atmosphere in the studios was not very partial to sci-fi," recounts Kurtz. Even the most popular sci-fi film at the time had been a meager success in the eyes of Hollywood executives. "2001 had come out in 1968 and took six years to make its money back," he says. But Alan Ladd Jr. at 20th Century Fox had enough faith in Star Wars to greenlight the project. "It was the cheapest film that they had on their slate that year; everything else was more expensive, so even if they didn't make their money back and just broke even, it would be okay," says Kurtz. In the almost three-decades since the debut of Star Wars, the movie landscape has changed so radically that the quieter days of 1977 seem almost alien in comparison. "In the box office takings nowadays, the opening weekend is the key thing. In the '70s, the style of release was quite different," says Kurtz. "Most films were platformed, which means they were tried out in a few cinemas, and then expanded over time. In this case, we were stuck, as Star Wars was one of the first films with Dolby Surround sound and Dolby stereo mix. We only opened in cinemas which had Dolby stereo installed, and cinemas were so reluctant that Fox had to guarantee they would recoup the costs of the installation, and said they were willing to pay for the costs of removing the equipment if cinemas didn't want to keep it!" From the initial 32 theaters on May 25, 1977, Star Wars's release grew to encompass hundreds of theaters, but it was still just a fraction of the number of theaters most big films open nowadays. What contributed to its box office success was months, not weeks of steady business. "It was never in more than 600 cinemas at one time," says Kurtz, "but it played for a long time; some ran the films for six months! You'd never have that these days. A big film will open in 4,000 cinemas and be gone in three months." The dramatic uphill struggle to make Star Wars is extensively documented in Empire of Dreams, the feature-length documentary found on the Star Wars Trilogy DVD that debuts on September 21. Kurtz is one of the dozens of personalities interviewed in the film. In the coming weeks, keep checking starwars.com for a more extensive look at the making of this long-awaited DID set as the countdown continues to September 21.

I love how the entire article is about the opening in '77, then says, "oh ya, be sure to get the DVD's in September"
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lol clever no?
ive come to the conclusion that the people who are writing these are complete a**holes... and most likely they're being told what to write by someone higher than them.... which is even worse...

this is so not a coincidence.... and thats the saddest part...
they have to trick their consumers into buying the product...
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Chaltab, that's just the SRP (Suggested Retail Price). The regular store price will like be between US$50-60 with first-week sale prices of US$40-45. All movies and other items that are sold have what manufacturer's refer to as the SRP or MSRP. This is what the manufacturer sees as being the ideal price. Almost never holds up once it's on the shelves. Usually just a bit lower. The SRP on the Simpsons sets are about US$45-50 and they have a pretty common shelf price of US$35-40.


Good. I was getting worried there for a minute.

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