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^ Don't give Lucas ideas


Lord Peeler - some nice generalisations there. You tar everyone with the same brush?

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I fully expect Lucas to present some lame-o Midichlorian explanation for the young Anakin vision at the end of the film in Revenge of the Sith. Not that the explanation will rectify matters, but I do think he'll try.

I participated in a DVD marathon last week ... luckily, I didn't have to buy the DVDs before I saw them. Every single person in the room (30+ in age) wailed at every change. I'm sorry ... but the lightsabers were always fine. The explosions were always fine. None of this stuff needed to be spiffed-up. The FX were groundbreaking in the day ... now they're standard CGI ... no better than what's seen in The Star Wars Kid videos.

And something else ... while the DVDs' film quality was crystal-clear, the first two movies didn't have the same look as Star Wars did when seen in a theater. The colors were sharpened beyond anything that was seen in the day ... it's not the same color composition anymore. Everyone looks like they're wearing orange makeup (which they probably were ... because such makeup was expected to fade out to a natural fleshtone on film).

Frankly, if Lucas has issues with his first three films ... then he should freakin' REMAKE THEM FROM SCRATCH. New actors; new everything. But leave the original films as-is. As far as I'm concerned, he's had his chance to make Star Wars films with every modern toy available ... they're the prequels, and I happen to hate them.
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Originally posted by: Asha
I'm glad you're so familiar with the term "fanboy," Peeler. Are you as familiar with the internet term "troll?" FYI: Trolls typically continue posting on boards where they know their opinion runs counter to the purpose of the website's mission.

That's what you're doing ... trolling. I think your trolling is pretty pointless ... there are scores of Star Wars sites teeming with people who share your opinions on these DVDs, George Lucas' revised "visions," and the prequels. This site is not one of them ... if it was, I'd be banned by now (and I haven't even posted very much here yet).

I came here to find like-minded fans of the original films who share my contempt for and disappointment with George's constant meddling. Even at IMDB, the like-minded individuals I saw were few and far between. I did not register here to read the same old "Lucas is an infallible God" line that, quite frankly, I believe is contributing to the destruction of everything that was ever good about Star Wars. Low expectations reap lowly products.

So instead of "trolling" here and whining about the reactions you've received, why aren't you sticking to websites that you know agree with you?


Gee, I read somewhere that the purpose of this site was to get Lucas to release the O-OT's on DVD. Where was that at? Oh yeah, right here:

Our goal is to persuade Mr. Lucas to reconsider his decision.


Now, do you really think calling the guy a "lunatic" is going to presuade him of anything?
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The petition doesn't call Lucas a lunatic. But the forum welcomes such opinions ... I deduced that from lurking here for a while before I posted.

A troll is a troll is a troll.
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Originally posted by: Asha
The petition doesn't call Lucas a lunatic. But the forum welcomes such opinions ... I deduced that from lurking here for a while before I posted.

A troll is a troll is a troll.


A troll is someone who makes off topic posts. The topic here is "I love the DVDs". You don't love the DVDs.

So who is the troll?
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And here we go with the fanboy hypocricy again. You think people shouldn't bash Lucas and hate the prequels and Special Editions...hate to break it to you jackass, but they have as much right to hate it as YOU do to love them. So shut the fuck up and leave if you don't like the generally anti-Lucas atitude.
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No, a troll is someone who disrupts an online community by intentionally posting content that runs counter to the general spirit of the community ... which is what you're doing.

Personally, my definition of a fanboy is someone who laps-up any and every product associated with a genre property ... regardless of quality or integrity.

Regardless, I dare anyone to call me a "fanboy" with a straight face ... because I'm a woman.
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Originally posted by: Darth Justin
And here we go with the fanboy hypocricy again. You think people shouldn't bash Lucas and hate the prequels and Special Editions...hate to break it to you jackass, but they have as much right to hate it as YOU do to love them. So shut the fuck up and leave if you don't like the generally anti-Lucas atitude.


Post what you want. I'm suggesting that bashing the one person with the power to give you want you want is counter productive and I thought the point was clear....

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Yes but Lucas has made it clear many times, and continues to do so, that what we want will never happen. So if hope is lost, why shouldn't people be able to bash?
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Exactly. Lucas has quashed all hope for a proper release. Why take it on the chin like a wimp if being nice about it will have no effect?

And you know ... I silently steamed about the direction of Star Wars UNTIL Lucas had to be a condescending prick with his "sorry you fell in love with my first vision" tripe.

I firmly believe that had Saturday Night Live not mocked NSYNC, the group would have remained in the film (BTW: I enjoyed Saturday Night Live's sendup more than the finished movie). Had Luke's girly scream in Empire not been mocked to high-heaven and low-hell, he wouldn't have removed it. Clearly, being polite goes nowhere in Lucas' world.
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Ever since the SE's came out, Hell ever since the Ewoks fanboys and fangirls have been bitching. You can't claim you tried to be nice and it didn't work, because the thought of being respectful toward the guy never entered into most hater's heads.
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Personally, my definition of a fanboy is someone who laps-up any and every product associated with a genre property ... regardless of quality or integrity.


Exactly, and not only does Peeler not any taste, but he has no clue what the accepted definition of a fanboy is.

Alsong with Asha's fine definition, the core of a fanboy is to give up free will, and accept everything from that subculture as the gospel, regardless of its quality or logic.

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Peeler. Listen. And understand. George Lucas is a madman. He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop fucking with the Original Trilogy, ever, until he is dead
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Originally posted by: Sam_Lu
Peeler. Listen. And understand. George Lucas is a madman. He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop fucking with the Original Trilogy, ever, until he is dead


Now, now, let's not be silly. I'm sure Rick McCallum will continue with the raping of the trilogy long after Lucas has passed on.

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the fact that you came to these boards knowing what this cause is about and what we've been campaigning for and then make a post like this,

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I have watched all three of them over and over. I must say, the changes are not bad at all! My favorite is how they took out the original emperor hologram and replaced him with the man we all know and love. I don’t think these are abominations, not like a lot of purists do. Lucas is just doing now what he couldn’t back then. He’s not hurting them, he’s just patching some old cracks. It’s his work of art; let him do what he wants to them.


makes us wonder why you would even post that as your first post...
you must
a) want people to hate you
b) be a friend of jimbo's
c) have been payed by Lucas himself to come here and piss us off
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d) flocked over to this site with most of the other new fanboy members from starwars.com

i dunno about most of the other members here but if you notice the url being originaltrilogy.com....
your not going to make many friends by coming here and praising the new DVD's considering we got screwed...
i find this forum to be getting more and more out of hand by the day....
fanboys are coming out of Lucas' pants and coming in here to be nothing other than annoying pricks who just want to shit all over our parade...

well i dont know about some of you guys but i think Luke is posting his resignation in the next couple days...
i just dont even have a fun time coming here like i used to with some of you guys...
but i hate to leave because we have got some other really great members in the last little while...

ie. Regicidal, Darth Justin, and many others..

before i leave this topic and perhaps this board for good i just want to say kudos to Jay for standing up to this new member...
i dont know if you've done it before but the only other time i've felt that proud was when i saw Han shoot first...

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
the fact that you came to these boards knowing what this cause is about and what we've been campaigning for and then make a post like this,

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I have watched all three of them over and over. I must say, the changes are not bad at all! My favorite is how they took out the original emperor hologram and replaced him with the man we all know and love. I don’t think these are abominations, not like a lot of purists do. Lucas is just doing now what he couldn’t back then. He’s not hurting them, he’s just patching some old cracks. It’s his work of art; let him do what he wants to them.


makes us wonder why you would even post that as your first post...
you must
a) want people to hate you
b) be a friend of jimbo's
c) have been payed by Lucas himself to come here and piss us off
or
d) flocked over to this site with most of the other new fanboy members from starwars.com

i dunno about most of the other members here but if you notice the url being originaltrilogy.com....
your not going to make many friends by coming here and praising the new DVD's considering we got screwed...
i find this forum to be getting more and more out of hand by the day....
fanboys are coming out of Lucas' pants and coming in here to be nothing other than annoying pricks who just want to shit all over our parade...

well i dont know about some of you guys but i think Luke is posting his resignation in the next couple days...
i just dont even have a fun time coming here like i used to with some of you guys...
but i hate to leave because we have got some other really great members in the last little while...

ie. Regicidal, Darth Justin, and many others..

before i leave this topic and perhaps this board for good i just want to say kudos to Jay for standing up to this new member...
i dont know if you've done it before but the only other time i've felt that proud was when i saw Han shoot first...

lates


Thanks for the props.

Don't leave man.

I too have been frustrated by the very recent influx of Apologists and Lucas-lap-dogs but I think they'll wear themselves out just like all trollers.

Just sit tight and ride out the tide of pathetic fanboy freeaks until they go back to StarWars.com or whatever dark hole they all crawled up out from.

Seriously where are these weirdos coming from?

And what is their objective?

They got theirs now we want ours.

Lucas Losers leave, now.
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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I'd like to ask the fanboys one simple question regarding their arguments against releasing the OT on DVD:

What are you afraid of?

We all know what Lucas is afraid of, that the OT would easily outsell the crappy SSE 2004 edition, and he'd have to weather the ridicule and embarassment of the general public slamming not only his crappy prequels, but his terrible updates of the classic OT. That's why Lucas would never release the OT, because he wants the terrible SSE 2004 edition to win by default.

But what do the fanboys have to fear? Why are they so against the OT?

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That's what I'd like to know. I'd love to interact on Starwars.com or theforce.net, but the second I see someone say, "I don't really like the SE", they get torn to shreads. They're not even complaining, just stating, and they're labeled Lucas-hating prequel bashers. What is the big deal? We don't mind that you love the DVDs, why must we be made fun of because we prefer old special effects?

Lord Peeler, please stop being so general in your witchhunt. If you dislike this board and its members, please speak your mind elsewhere. Not because we don't want you here, but because this site issn't for you if this is the case. All we ask is constructive posts. Do you honestly think the opinions of a forum is going to affect his decision. Bashing Lucas will no more hurt our cause than kissing up to him will help it.

Sam_Lu, you too are pushing buttons, please be calm and fair. I agree with what you're saying, but there's no need to be hostile. It's obvious that you're passionate about this, but fighting solves nothing.

Luke, please don't leave. You are a valued member of this board and we would all hate to see you go.

Darth Al, it's great that you love the changes, more power to you, but why do you come to a haven for those who don't? I welcome you here, but please, contribute, don't rile. We get too much of that elsewhere.

Face it, if you were on "specialedition.com" and some guy came in and rubbed in how much he loved his original version DVDs, and you didn't have DVDs of the SE(provided the situation were reversed), how'd you feel? I don't even care if I get Star Wars on DVD, as I don't mind VHS. What I do mind is that Lucas, a man I respected growing up, won't give his fans the choice he has to choose. I mind that anyone who speaks against any change, for better or worse, gets attacked because "they live in the past". You have your version, where's the harm in letting us have ours? Let's all try being considerate of one another.


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Originally posted by: Sam_Lu
I'd like to ask the fanboys one simple question regarding their arguments against releasing the OT on DVD:

What are you afraid of?

We all know what Lucas is afraid of, that the OT would easily outsell the crappy SSE 2004 edition, and he'd have to weather the ridicule and embarassment of the general public slamming not only his crappy prequels, but his terrible updates of the classic OT. That's why Lucas would never release the OT, because he wants the terrible SSE 2004 edition to win by default.

But what do the fanboys have to fear? Why are they so against the OT?


Well, since you want to claim I'm a Lucas fanboy, please point out the post in which I ever said I don't want to see the O-OT on DVD.

A fanboy likes what he likes and bashes everything else. An example would be someone who likes the Original cut of the OT and hates everything Lucas has done since.

I like the O-OT, I wish it was on DVD. But I think calling Lucas a "rapist" isn't the way to go.

And other than pointing out were the fanboys have made shit up, I really haven't defended the PT or the SE's. I posted that nobody booed TPM. That's a fact, not a defense. I posted that the DVDs made over $80 million in a single day, so not everyone who likes them is a Lucas mole. That's a fact, not a defense.
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Since you insist on acting like a Spoiled Lucas Fanboy Brat, could you please show me where I called that senile old moron a RAPIST or uses the word RAPE in any way?

Let me guess, you made it all up because George "told you to", right?
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Originally posted by: Sam_Lu
Since you insist on acting like a Spoiled Lucas Fanboy Brat, could you please show me where I called that senile old moron a RAPIST or uses the word RAPE in any way?

Let me guess, you made it all up because George "told you to", right?


I was referring to badkarma's BS about Lucas "raping" the OT.

Still can't find an example of me actually defending the DVDs or the PT other than pointing out that the DVDs are selling like hotcakes and nobody ever booed the PT, can you?

Typical fanboy.

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Typical Spoiled Lucas Fanboy Brat.
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How are O-OT lovers fanboys? A lot of them despise Lucas and hate everything he's done since...that doesn't sound like fandom.
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Originally posted by: Sam_Lu
Typical Spoiled Lucas Fanboy Brat.


Great comeback. How witty and urbane. I'm peiced by your rapier-like wit. You slay me. :roll:

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Originally posted by: Darth Justin
How are O-OT lovers fanboys? A lot of them despise Lucas and hate everything he's done since...that doesn't sound like fandom.


A fanboy likes what he likes and hates everything else. Some of the O-OT's fanboys here love only the O-OT and passionatly hate everything else Lucas has done to the point were you can't discuss things rationally with them. I mean they even go so far as to say anyone who says they like the DVDs are "Lucas moles" and make up stories about how people booed TPM in the theater and that ILM, the company that created CGI, doesn't know how to do CGI.

It's like PS2 fanboys vs. XBOX fan boys. Tell a PS2 fanboy that GTA is better on XBOX and they'll say "Nuh Uhh!" and claim the PS2 graphics are better. To people like that the idea of owning both a PS2 and an XBOX makes somebody a "game system traitor".

Or LOTR fanboys vs. Star Wars fanboys. God forbid somebody love both.

It's an immature attitude, and in the case of this site it really hurts our cause.
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