REY NOBODY - A Collaborative Thread — Page 7

bbghost said:

Master Lawdog said:

Here is a compilation of scenes for how Rey Nobody can work. Let me know what you all think.

https://vimeo.com/580074316
PASSWORD: fanedit

“The only family you have here is me.”

Not sure how that line works in this context?

It could work as in Rey only having Palpatine to be with. He could’ve said something like that to Vader after losing Padmé.

RogueLeader said:

Don’t have anything to share yet, but working on the audio edit of Rey taking about her vision with Finn gave me the urge to work on Rey Nobody a little more.

I’m currently messing with the Force bond duel scene, which I think is the most difficult scene to alter, because you’re having to actually change the narrative somewhat, and not just cut lines.

I might have something to show sooner rather than later, but this scene is a real pain in the ass. Many of Kylo’s lines “echo” in the other channels, so even if you change/cut lines in the primary dialogue channel, you can still sort of hear them in the other channels. Which means you would have to basically replace the music, sound effects, and dialogue reverb in a few parts of that scene.

With that being said, I still think it’s doable, but if I share a test with y’all, it definitely will be a “test” and nowhere close to final. I’m curious how other people who have tried editing this scene have tackled this issue.

Hey RL, not sure how this is coming along, or what your new intention for the Kylo Quarter Duel even is, but I had a thought. Rather than replacing the dialogue with new lines, what if we just, ya know, cut most of the scene out? Kylo says, “Where are you?” They clash a couple of times. “You can’t hide from me.” Few more swings. Rey hits the Vader pedestal. “So that’s where you are.” Rey manages to shut down the connection. Kylo turns to the trooper, “She’s in my quarters, lock down the ship.”

Do we even need to explore her backstory, or her parents, or have any meaningful conversation here at all? All of the stuff relevant to this movie comes in the next scene anyway when he’s all like, “We’ll kill Palpatine together.”

In fact, I almost wonder if the Hanger Scene will play out even better this way. As it is, Kylo says, “I’m gonna be right there, Rey, and then we have stuff to talk about. Cool?” So then when they have their little face-off in the hanger, you’re just waiting for them to chat. On the other hand, if you make the Quarter Duel about just tracking Rey down, and end it with an ominous “There you are…” - and also consider that the last time they met on Pasanna, he tried to turn her into roadkill - when he appears in the next scene in person, the audience is waiting with baited breath for him to attack. But then…he starts talking? He’s suggesting they team up to kill Palpatine?? Holy shit, this was completely unexpected. What’s going to happen next?

I quite like this idea. Sometimes the best option is the most straightforward one.

sherlockpotter said:

RogueLeader said:

Don’t have anything to share yet, but working on the audio edit of Rey taking about her vision with Finn gave me the urge to work on Rey Nobody a little more.

I’m currently messing with the Force bond duel scene, which I think is the most difficult scene to alter, because you’re having to actually change the narrative somewhat, and not just cut lines.

I might have something to show sooner rather than later, but this scene is a real pain in the ass. Many of Kylo’s lines “echo” in the other channels, so even if you change/cut lines in the primary dialogue channel, you can still sort of hear them in the other channels. Which means you would have to basically replace the music, sound effects, and dialogue reverb in a few parts of that scene.

With that being said, I still think it’s doable, but if I share a test with y’all, it definitely will be a “test” and nowhere close to final. I’m curious how other people who have tried editing this scene have tackled this issue.

Hey RL, not sure how this is coming along, or what your new intention for the Kylo Quarter Dual even is, but I had a thought. Rather than replacing the dialogue with new lines, what if we just, ya know, cut most of the scene out? Kylo says, “Where are you?” They clash a couple of times. “You can’t hide from me.” Few more swings. Rey hits the Vader pedestal. “So that’s where you are.” Rey manages to shut down the connection. Kylo turns to the trooper, “She’s in my quarters, lock down the ship.”

Do we even need to explore her backstory, or her parents, or have any meaningful conversation here at all? All of the stuff relevant to this movie comes in the next scene anyway when he’s all like, “We’ll kill Palpatine together.”

In fact, I almost wonder if the Hanger Scene will play out even better this way. As it is, Kylo says, “I’m gonna be right there, Rey, and then we have stuff to talk about. Cool?” So then when they have their little face-off in the hanger, you’re just waiting for them to chat. On the other hand, if you make the Quarter Dual about just tracking Rey down, and end it with an ominous “There you are…” - and also consider that the last time they met on Pasanna, he tried to turn her into roadkill - when he appears in the next scene in person, the audience is waiting with baited breath for him to attack. But then…he starts talking? He’s suggesting they team up to kill Palpatine?? Holy shit, this was completely unexpected. What’s going to happen next?

Relies on the surrounding rescue of Chewie being re-edited a bit but I like keeping this sequence intact anyway: https://vimeo.com/549085906

Hello! I know, it’s been a while, hasn’t it? I feel like a lot of people (myself included) just sort of fell off for a little while there for various reasons, but hopefully we’ll have more time in the future. Good luck with the new setup!

That sounds really awesome though - I forgot that the vision in the beginning now foreshadows some of the Exegol battle, so discussing that and dissecting both parts of the vision across the two scenes sounds like a good way to go. Helps to draw attention to the battle too, so people like me who might have missed it at first would be caught up to speed.

As for trimming it down, I think it would depend on how much footage you need for your new dialogue - if you’ll need the footage underneath “It was Palpatine all along.” then we should focus on just removing the dialogue; but if you don’t need that extra time, we can look for a point at which to cut it entirely. Once you have the audio locked in how you want it to sound, we can figure out how best to edit it so that the scene has the right momentum.

Anakin Starkiller said:

An idea I had today was to make the reveal that Kylo and Rey are a dyad. Could that work?

I feel like it would fall flat. The audience doesn’t know what “a dyad in the Force” even is, let alone its significance to them as characters.

bbghost said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

An idea I had today was to make the reveal that Kylo and Rey are a dyad. Could that work?

I feel like it would fall flat. The audience doesn’t know what “a dyad in the Force” even is, let alone its significance to them as characters.

Yeah, not much weight to a reveal such as that. I still think that attempt someone put together on the thread here where it’s revealed that Rey will kill Palpatine and take the Sith throne works well.

I think it depends on what versions of VII & VIII you pair it with. If it goes after something like Starlight Project, which as I understand it more clearly ties Rey’s instinctive abilities to the dark side, then her self-doubts about her potential can come to a head naturally on their own. But if it goes with a more conservative edit of the previous plots, then I don’t think anything less than revealing she killed her parents can sell her fears of going bad.

I was thinking, I wonder if there’s some way to use Rey’s horrible, drunk parents in TLJ to help lure her to the Dark Side in Rey Nobody. Like, a really obvious character thread for anyone who isn’t Chris Terrio is for Kylo or Palpsters to say “Your parents abandoned you. Doesn’t that fill you with anger and hatred?” Or “You have no family, all alone. Join me.” Or heck even, “Take the Throne, rule over the galaxy, and you can ensure that no one else will ever be forsaken again. Like you were.”

I don’t know if the dialogue exists anywhere (it’s probably easier to just ignore her parents entirely), but it might be interesting to tie it all back together like that. TFA - the trilogy starts with Rey fantasizing about her lineage, TLJ - she realizes that she’ll have to make her own path instead of inheriting one, and TROS - she has to decide which path to walk. Besides, I think “Parents selling child for drinking money -> Child falls to the Dark Side out of resentment” is a much more logical progression than “Parents sacrifice themselves to save child from the Dark Side -> Child falls to the Dark Side…for reasons.” Logical, that is, for anyone who isn’t Chris Terrio.

sade1212 said:

sherlockpotter said:

I was thinking, I wonder if there’s some way to use Rey’s horrible, drunk parents in TLJ to help lure her to the Dark Side in Rey Nobody. Like, a really obvious character thread for anyone who isn’t Chris Terrio is for Kylo or Palpsters to say “Your parents abandoned you. Doesn’t that fill you with anger and hatred?” Or “You have no family, all alone. Join me.” Or heck even, “Take the Throne, rule over the galaxy, and you can ensure that no one else will ever be forsaken again. Like you were.”

Isn’t this what Kylo does in TLJ? “You’re nothing… but not to me.”

Not exactly. My take on the TLJ scene was that Kylo was telling her, “Your parents left you. You’re not special. You’re all alone. But you and I can be friends.” In TROS, my thought was to transition the issue from “Aren’t you sad that you’re alone?” to “Your parents were horrible to you. Doesn’t that make you angry?” Kind of like Anakin being sad about his mom - that turning into anger, into hate, etc.

“It’s like poetry, it rhymes.”