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The Original Trilogy - a general Random Thoughts thread — Page 2

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Mocata said:

The Empire would probably have a local leader that would order troops to shoot a crowd like that.

I’ve been waiting years for someone to put in Tie Fighters swooping in. 😛

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Indeed. One wonders whether the sale was in part engendered by the fact that Lucas evidently views the late “Uncle Walt” with rose-colored glasses.

Despite all the ill effects Disney has had the multimedia landscape. And the fact that the nostalgia-fueled worldview of Walt Disney and in particular the Disney theme parks arguably fed into the resurgence of Reagan-era conservatism in a way that would’ve horrified the Lucas who so abhorred Richard Nixon.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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imperialscum said:

I see the added celebration scenes as flash-forward, and that is how any intelligent viewer should interpret them.

lawl

Still furiously doing your taxes after all these years.

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canofhumdingers said:

act on instinct said:
I think it’s fine Lucas kept working independently and I share solidarity with his anti-corporation feelings.

Those feelings make his role as founder of Lucasfilm, and especially the eventual sale to Disney incredibly ironic.

It’s almost as if he became the very thing he swore to destroy.

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canofhumdingers said:

act on instinct said:
I think it’s fine Lucas kept working independently and I share solidarity with his anti-corporation feelings.

Those feelings make his role as founder of Lucasfilm, and especially the eventual sale to Disney incredibly ironic.

“I was sort of fighting the corporate system, which I didn’t like, and I’m not happy with the fact that corporations have taken over the film industry, but I found myself being the head of a corporation, so there is a certain irony there. I have become the very thing I was trying to avoid, that is Darth Vader…” - George Lucas

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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Appreciate Lucas’ self awareness, enough to even step down which seems less than tyranical. Not so ironic to my mind though, Lucas had his own projects but from all stories told about how LucasFilm/LucasArts was ran over the years it was said to be a unique level of creative freedom, when it comes to selling the company I find it no more ironic than selling Pixar, just Lucas moving on to future ventures.

“The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.” - DV

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i like most of the special edition edits, but people removing ian mcdiarmid from ESB & re-adding the old emperor just screws with the continuity

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Happy New Year Rodney, and to all at OriginalTrilogy•com! Take care in 2021 everyone.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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I was on holidays in america (orlando) in 2009, i was 14 at the time, and up until that time i had not encountered the original cuts of the movies, but i was in pizza hut and they had a vhs player playing a new hope and i was dumbfounded seeing the unaltered version. I had grown up with the 97 & 2004 edits of the movies, in which i looked at as being the normal versions.

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The Muppet Show is up on Disney+ now. I had to go directly to the Star Wars/Mark Hamill episode (season 4 episode 16).

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Any thoughts on why an extract of music from The Empire Strikes Back is used in the scene from Return Of The Jedi when Luke talks to Leia in the Ewok village. It starts with the extract from ‘Yoda And The Force’ and then goes in to the Jedi score ‘Brother And Sister’. It fits perfect but I am wondering if the scene was originally intended without music until the ‘Brother And Sister’ cue.

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I find it interesting that during the Empire Strikes Back, when Vader confronts Luke, he makes a fair point that the galaxy was consumed in destructive chaos and that it did need order. Eventually order does come and the emperor is destroyed, both in Disney and the EU, so technically Vader correctly prophesied that Luke would end the threat of the emperor.

I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.

Star Wars has 3 eras: The eras are 1977-1983(pre Expanded Universe), (1983-2014) expanded universe, or (2014- now) Disney-bought version. Each are valid.

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I think he was probably talking about the order that could be brought about by crushing all opposition though.

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I sometimes wonder what Star Wars would be like if Kurt Russell was cast as Han Solo.

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Kurt would have been around 25 when Star Wars began filming, and might not have looked older than Mark. And Kurt hadn’t quite shed his wholesome Disney movie image yet. I’ve no doubt that he would have been great in the part though.

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Yeah maybe. Escape From New York was like 4 years later.

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I don’t know if this is the awesomeness of Han Solo or more the shrinkage of the Star Wars universe. But it is pretty cool:

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The Original Trilogy will soon be 50 years old, or at least part of it will be in 2027, and they really have stood the test of time.
It makes me wonder if the Prequels and the Sequels will have a similar affection, when they approach their 50th anniversaries?

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Juno Eclipse said:

The Original Trilogy will soon be 50 years old, or at least part of it will be in 2027, and they really have stood the test of time.
It makes me wonder if the Prequels and the Sequels will have a similar affection, when they approach their 50th anniversaries?

I doubt whether the Prequels or Sequels will on their 50th anniversary. It seems both those trilogies require much ancillary material in a bid to to fix and address their glaring issues.

For the Prequels there is Clone Wars, The Clone Wars, Rebels and the Obi-Wan series in an attempt to somehow remedy those issues. For the Prequel era, or how the Prequels are thought of in general, those series have helped improve the perception of the PT over time. But the PT films on their own? I really doubt it.

In the Sequels it appears The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka (and maybe outlines from Rangers Of The Republic and possibly the new Skeleton Crew series and the coming New Republic theatrical film) is now an attempt to somehow try and remedy the issues of the Sequels. For these all this additional content to now help the Sequel era and the perception of it. But the ST films on their own? As above with the PT films, I really doubt it.
 

The Original Trilogy stands on its own two feet. It is the main draw nearly 50 years on, and is still what most of the merchandise and iconic images used to promote and sell Star Wars.

But that is just my take on it. Maybe one day they’ll actually do a new Star Wars trilogy that can stand on it its two feet too, and not need all this ancillary material to set the layout of the galaxy, or try to explain or remedy the needless issues within the films. And we’ll then get a whole host of new Star Wars series with new stories, in new settings, new eras, and new characters, in the galaxy far far away.

 

Plus, fans still want to watch the versions of the Original Trilogy they grew up with. Or have the option to watch them all. I still get a kick out of these:
 

ORIGINAL Luke vs Darth Vader & The Emperor | Return of the Jedi (1983) [DeEd, Blu-ray, GOUT, LPP] (unbutchered version)

https://youtu.be/Ouv-JDzgQOA?t=338 - at the Star Wars Comparison YouTube channel

 
 

ORIGINAL Funeral Pyre/Celebration | Return of the Jedi (1983) [DeEd, Blu-ray, GOUT, LPP] (unbutchered version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Z6G9LewT8&t=165s - at the Star Wars Comparison YouTube channel

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PT movies are incredibly important technologically and in how pioneering their production workload was, they’ll no doubt be remembered in 50 years, but I don’t think that to the degree of the OT at all.

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My wife recently asked me what I’d want written on my tombstone.

At first, nothing came to mind… and then I jokingly said, “Release the Unaltered Trilogy.” My wife found that extremely funny… and kind of wants me to actually do that now.

Maybe that would finally get Lucasfilm’s attention :p

<span style=“font-size: 12px;”><span>We seem to be made to suffer. It’s our lot in life.</span></span>