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Chronological Marvel (No Spiderman Spoilers, Yes Endgame Spoilers) (* unfinished project *)

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My mom is a big fan of Lost, and when I was 16 she had me watch it with her, since she had the full show on DVD, and I loved it too. I discovered a fanedit of Lost called Chronologically Lost, which puts the whole show into chronological order, and puts simultaneous scenes synchronously on screen at the same time.

Years later, watching Endgame in theaters, I was reminded of this, and thought I should make a fanedit like that. Marvel and Lost are very different stories, the timelines are handled very differently, and both stories’ approaches to time travel are on exact opposite extremes of the spectrum, and there aren’t as many cool simultaneous scenes that make Chronologically Lost so interesting, but it’s still a cool thing to check out.

I plan on putting the first 22 movies (Iron Man 1 through Endgame) in the fanedit, because they’re the “Infinity Saga”, however my girlfriend and my brother really want me to put Far From Home in the fanedit, saying it’s the real last movie in the Infinity Saga, not Endgame. I wouldn’t know, I haven’t seen Far From Home.

I’m putting the movies in as I rewatch them with my girlfriend, and my friend who’s helping with the fanedit. We want to rewatch them all partially to make sure I have the actual timelines of the movies down, but also partially just as an excuse to watch all the movies. Plus we’ve also put in Captain Marvel, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Infinity War, since we’ve seen them recently enough that we remember them, at least much better than we remembered Iron Man 2, for example.

Endgame clips will be placed in the timeline normally, even in alternate universes. Simultaneous clips will be played simultaneously, clips that take place in the past just through time travel will be placed normally. Even like with the GotG1 opening and the Power Stone heist, where they clearly contradict each other.

I’m not sure if we’ll include the webisodes, Chronologically Lost did. We definitely will not be including the TV shows. The movies alone already have 47 hours and 48 minutes of runtime, we don’t need a TV show.

Here is the timeline so far. I’ll be updating this as we add movies.

This will probably come out shortly after Endgame is released on Blu Ray.

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That’s going to be one long Fan Edit mate 😉

Good luck with it 😃

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I’ll probably split it into parts. A 48 hour fanedit in one piece is probably pretty daunting, even if you never planned on watching the whole thing either way.

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I made a four hour chronological edit of Captain America/ Marvel through Ant Man and the Wasp. Basically everything except Infinity War, End Game and Far From Home. After watching End Game, there’s a few things I’d want to change/ include, including replacing the bootleg Captain Marvel footage with DVD footage (yeah, it’s DVD quality, which is good enough for me). I’d like to share it with you, as well as see what your is like.

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If you want the chronology to be as accurate as possible, I suggest that you take a look at this detailed timeline that dozens of people have put together:

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline-continued.14631/

All of the canonical tv shows are also in place on this timeline that you’ll have to ignore (unless you want a 500+ hour fan edit) since you’re just focusing on the movies.

I noticed you put Iron Man in 2010 and separated Iron Man 2, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk, whereas those three movies are usually put in the same week titled “Fury’s Big Week” according to other material. In the thread linked above, there’s also a spreadsheet put together detailing all the evidence people have scoured through; if I find it, I’ll be sure to link it here. Of course, this is mainly just me being OCD because I obsess over timelines and dates too much. The specifics porbably won’t matter to this fan edit unless you wanted to display the year on screen upon changing. I look forward to what you do!

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If you want the chronology to be as accurate as possible, I suggest that you take a look at this detailed timeline that dozens of people have put together:

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline-continued.14631/

All of the canonical tv shows are also in place on this timeline

This would be a mammoth task to construct but at the same token if it was done correctly and the comics made into videos with background music so it would include everything in this list which would make it the fullest experience it would be a marvel fan’s ultimate dream. I for one would happily sit thru 500+ hours just to say I’d watched everything the way it should be and I put money on it that I wouldn’t be the only person. Like I said this is a mammoth task but I really hope someone or a team would take this into consideration:)

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Lesser said:

If you want the chronology to be as accurate as possible, I suggest that you take a look at this detailed timeline that dozens of people have put together:

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline-continued.14631/

All of the canonical tv shows are also in place on this timeline that you’ll have to ignore (unless you want a 500+ hour fan edit) since you’re just focusing on the movies.

I’ve actually been looking for something like that, because I’m not a Marvel expert. Thanks!

I noticed you put Iron Man in 2010 and separated Iron Man 2, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk, whereas those three movies are usually put in the same week titled “Fury’s Big Week” according to other material. … The specifics porbably won’t matter to this fan edit unless you wanted to display the year on screen upon changing.

I do plan on showing the dates. My friend actually told me about Fury’s Big Week, although he wasn’t super specific (sorry if you’re reading this) and so I opted to put it in the order it’s in. There’s some other statement by the people who worked on the MCU I read back in 2015 or something that unless otherwise noted, the movies take place the year they come out. Obviously you can’t take that too seriously, Iron Man 2 and Thor are supposed to take place close together in time, they both came out in 2010 and 2011, yet Iron Man 2 takes place 6 months after 2008’s Iron Man 1. However, I tried following that rule where it made sense.

Obviously though if people are coming into the thread and pointing it out, Iron Man 2 and Thor taking place in the same week is probably pretty commonly accepted. I’ll fix that.

Me and my friends actually skipped Incredible Hulk while rewatching it, so I haven’t put it in yet.

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SparkySywer said:

I’ve actually been looking for something like that, because I’m not a Marvel expert. Thanks!

I do plan on showing the dates. My friend actually told me about Fury’s Big Week, although he wasn’t super specific (sorry if you’re reading this) and so I opted to put it in the order it’s in. There’s some other statement by the people who worked on the MCU I read back in 2015 or something that unless otherwise noted, the movies take place the year they come out. Obviously you can’t take that too seriously, Iron Man 2 and Thor are supposed to take place close together in time, they both came out in 2010 and 2011, yet Iron Man 2 takes place 6 months after 2008’s Iron Man 1. However, I tried following that rule where it made sense.

Me and my friends actually skipped Incredible Hulk while rewatching it, so I haven’t put it in yet.

Not a problem! I think I placed Incredible Hulk there in my brain subconsciously, my bad. There’s a YouTube channel called “Geekritique” that also does a lot of videos on the MCU timeline, and in his Iron Man 2 video he mentions that 6 months later refers to 6 months after that opening scene that doesn’t necessarily have any confirmed time placement (I could be wrong as I don’t really remember the beginning of Iron Man 2. But Thor is definitely in 2011 based on Fury’s line in Avengers about him arriving the year before, and Avengers is double confirmed in 2012 through Endgame. For the most part, the movies taking place when they release is true unless stated otherwise like Black Panther, Homecoming, and Guardians 2 for example.

Quick question: Marvel Studios has put out these very short news videos on YouTube called “WHIH Newsfront” featuring reports within MCU about characters such as Scott Lang in prison and other events happening within the universe. Would you consider putting these in your chronological edit as a sort of buffer between the movies? There’s also a few one-shots found on some DVDs and probably online like one with Coulson on the way to Thor’s hammer.

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SparkySywer said:

I’ve actually been looking for something like that, because I’m not a Marvel expert. Thanks!

I do plan on showing the dates. My friend actually told me about Fury’s Big Week, although he wasn’t super specific (sorry if you’re reading this) and so I opted to put it in the order it’s in. There’s some other statement by the people who worked on the MCU I read back in 2015 or something that unless otherwise noted, the movies take place the year they come out. Obviously you can’t take that too seriously, Iron Man 2 and Thor are supposed to take place close together in time, they both came out in 2010 and 2011, yet Iron Man 2 takes place 6 months after 2008’s Iron Man 1. However, I tried following that rule where it made sense.

Me and my friends actually skipped Incredible Hulk while rewatching it, so I haven’t put it in yet.

doesn’t necessarily have any confirmed time placement

Yeah, I agree, and originally I put it in 2008, but again my friend convinced me. I’ll look at the video you recommended to see what they have to say.

Marvel Studios has put out these very short news videos on YouTube called “WHIH Newsfront” … Would you consider putting these in your chronological edit as a sort of buffer between the movies?

The one-shots, webisodes, and WHIH Newsfront are more likely to go in than the shows, but I’m not sure either way which I’ll decide. I’m thinking I might put them in, though, since they’re not that long and they spice it up.

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SparkySywer said:

I plan on putting the first 22 movies (Iron Man 1 through Endgame) in the fanedit, because they’re the “Infinity Saga”, however my girlfriend and my brother really want me to put Far From Home in the fanedit, saying it’s the real last movie in the Infinity Saga, not Endgame. I wouldn’t know, I haven’t seen Far From Home.

They are correct. It is an epilogue.

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By coincidence, I am also working on a similar edit. Mine has a slightly different goal, though–it’s to shave down as much as possible to make it a streamlined series. It’d be aimed at NON-superhero audiences who prefer drama over action.

I’m calling it Game of Marvels, patterned after Game of Thrones in the style of cutting between different characters.

So it’s chronological as well, but very very specifically focused on certain characters. Many things will be cut if they don’t impact the overall narrative (i.e. the fake Mandarin).

Perhaps we can exchange notes?

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I was thinking about putting text cards detailing which universe Endgame stuff takes place in. This is especially to help contradictory scenes that might be running close in time. Simultaneous contradictory scenes would be pretty easy to digest (such as the opening of GotG1 with the Morag scene from Endgame), but something like Loki escaping in Endgame will be just two scenes before he’s shown captured and sent to Asgard (from Avengers 1). What do you guys think? Also, how should the six different timelines be named, since I can’t seem to find any official names?

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Perhaps we can exchange notes?

PM me if you’re interested, but it also sounds like our fanedits are pretty different.

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SparkySywer said:

I was thinking about putting text cards detailing which universe Endgame stuff takes place in. This is especially to help contradictory scenes that might be running close in time. Simultaneous contradictory scenes would be pretty easy to digest (such as the opening of GotG1 with the Morag scene from Endgame), but something like Loki escaping in Endgame will be just two scenes before he’s shown captured and sent to Asgard (from Avengers 1). What do you guys think? Also, how should the six different timelines be named, since I can’t seem to find any official names?

thebluefrog said:

Perhaps we can exchange notes?

PM me if you’re interested, but it also sounds like our fanedits are pretty different.

You could name each timeline after the movie events that Endgame revisted.
I.e.
2012 - Loki timeline
2013 - Asgard timeline
2014 - Guardians timeline
and so forth.

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SparkySywer said:

I was thinking about putting text cards detailing which universe Endgame stuff takes place in. This is especially to help contradictory scenes that might be running close in time. Simultaneous contradictory scenes would be pretty easy to digest (such as the opening of GotG1 with the Morag scene from Endgame), but something like Loki escaping in Endgame will be just two scenes before he’s shown captured and sent to Asgard (from Avengers 1). What do you guys think? Also, how should the six different timelines be named, since I can’t seem to find any official names?

thebluefrog said:

Perhaps we can exchange notes?

PM me if you’re interested, but it also sounds like our fanedits are pretty different.

You could name each timeline after the movie events that Endgame revisted.
I.e.
2012 - Loki timeline
2013 - Asgard timeline
2014 - Guardians timeline
and so forth.

Not a bad idea

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Also, don’t forget that next year there will be TV shows exploring 2012 Loki’s escape.

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On screen text, especially the text in GotG 1&2 is my bane. I’m trying to make consistent date and location texts (especially when it comes to font) and move the logos and credits to the beginning and end, but these two movies can be a pain in the neck about it.

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Lesser said:

If you want the chronology to be as accurate as possible, I suggest that you take a look at this detailed timeline that dozens of people have put together:

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline-continued.14631/

All of the canonical tv shows are also in place on this timeline that you’ll have to ignore (unless you want a 500+ hour fan edit) since you’re just focusing on the movies.

I’ve actually been looking for something like that, because I’m not a Marvel expert. Thanks!

I noticed you put Iron Man in 2010 and separated Iron Man 2, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk, whereas those three movies are usually put in the same week titled “Fury’s Big Week” according to other material. … The specifics porbably won’t matter to this fan edit unless you wanted to display the year on screen upon changing.

I do plan on showing the dates. My friend actually told me about Fury’s Big Week, although he wasn’t super specific (sorry if you’re reading this) and so I opted to put it in the order it’s in. There’s some other statement by the people who worked on the MCU I read back in 2015 or something that unless otherwise noted, the movies take place the year they come out. Obviously you can’t take that too seriously, Iron Man 2 and Thor are supposed to take place close together in time, they both came out in 2010 and 2011, yet Iron Man 2 takes place 6 months after 2008’s Iron Man 1. However, I tried following that rule where it made sense.

Obviously though if people are coming into the thread and pointing it out, Iron Man 2 and Thor taking place in the same week is probably pretty commonly accepted. I’ll fix that.

Me and my friends actually skipped Incredible Hulk while rewatching it, so I haven’t put it in yet.

So it’s been confirmed in the movies that Iron Man 1 takes place in 2008 (Happy: “I’ve been holding this ring since 2008” in Spider-Man Homecoming). Iron Man 2, Thor and Incredible Hulk comprise “Fury’s Big Week” in 2011. The beginning of IM2 starts in 2008, then, while Vanko is building his Whiplash armor, it goes from 2008 to the end of 2010. Some of this was retconned to become this way of course. The “Six Months Later” now is “Six Months Later” after it’s already been some time later. You can read all about this on the comicboard.com site referenced above, and the original thread it was continued from due to the tragic passing of the original poster. But the gist of it is as follows:

2008
May 25
Iron Man Chapter 15: “Underpowered” (1:53:22 - 1:57:07)
Iron Man 2 Chapter 1: “Across the Globe” (0:00:00 - 0:02:56)

May 26
Iron Man Chapter 15: “Underpowered” (2:05:03 - 2:05:38) (Nick Fury scene)

??? (sometime in 2008-2010)
Iron Man 2 Chapter 1: “Across the Globe” (0:02:57 - 0:04:30)

2010
November
Iron Man 2 Chapter 1: “Across the Globe” (0:04:31 - 0:05:03)

(Six Months Later)

2011
May 25
Iron Man 2 Chapter 2: “Stark Expo” (0:05:04 - 0:11:06)
etc.

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On screen text, especially the text in GotG 1&2 is my bane. I’m trying to make consistent date and location texts (especially when it comes to font) and move the logos and credits to the beginning and end, but these two movies can be a pain in the neck about it.

You can do a cheap solution and do an overlay OVER the existing txt. Like a black bar with new text. I believe you could use a blurring tool to make the black bar auto-match colors with the surrounding background.

Won’t look that great but better than cutting the scene.

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There’s been no activity on this thread for over a year, but I’ll add my two cents here. I too am working on a chronological MCU edit including all films, one-shots, deleted/extended scenes (insofar as they do not contradict the film narrative and have reasonably finished effects) and any useable bonus content on the Blu-rays. The idea is to present it as a single chronological 40+ hour film, so I will not be doing any side-by-side for simultaneous scenes. For differing perspectives of the same scene, e.g. All Hail the King’s main narrative’s Trevor Slattery viewpoint and the credits’ Justin Hammer viewpoint, I am using the selections that present the most engaging cinematic narrative and cutting the duplicates. For disparate scenes, I will simply put one after the other in the order that makes most sense, e.g. after Odin pushes Thor into the Bifrost, it cuts to to Jane, Selvig, and Darcy in New Mexico at the beginning of the movie until the Bifrost reaches Earth. In presenting this as a cinematic experience, I am also narrative focused to an extent. The time travel elements from Endgame will be placed in the 2023 segment because that is the character’s present and it avoids contradictions in the original timeline. The few new bits unrelated to time travel will be placed in their original times, e.g. Hulk having to take the stairs.

I have been debating whether or not to include date stamps. I am using https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline as my timeline reference. There is a lot of contradictory date information in the movies and supplemental material - this wiki analyzes it all and applies ranges and weighting factors to come up with the best fits.

As far as the shows go, my rule is I have to own the content on disc to include it. I currently don’t own or have any intention of buying any show seasons. I do, however, have season 1 of a few different shows on my Amazon Wishlist as gift ideas for my family. If I ever receive any, I will include those and consider purchasing season 2. I have no expectation of ever including all of Agents of Shield. I feel like around the time of the Framework, the show really started to go off the rails and lost what little connection it had to the rest of the MCU.

Unfortunately, I don’t really see how I can share the results of my work (I’m about half-way through currently) as I don’t want to have to continually pay for the cloud space to host this much HD video.

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I would use the comicboard.com I refered to above for any timelines questions you have such as specific dates. I’m not saying the wiki is wrong, but in my opinion there’s more precise research and dedication from the people on comicboard and I’ve been using their timeline forever. I personally want to one day do a chronological edit of legitimately everything MCU including the shows but I’m too poor to own all of it at the moment. I cut together the S5 finale of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Infinity War whenever the latter was released on digital and I haven’t done anything with it whatsoever in the two+ years since I cut it.

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I have my doubts the comicboard.com site does more precise research. I haven’t looked at it enough to see how much dedication they put in, but I have seen the pages upon pages of data analysis and calculations the wiki puts in to calculate a single date. As a physicist, I can say some of the people involved have to be mathematicians. However, from a readability and usability standpoint, the comicboard site is 1000 times better and with using for that alone. The wiki concerns itself with every little event in the MCU’s history, no matter how small or obliquely referenced, nor are there any timestamp references. From what little I’ve looked at, they are in nearly perfect agreement anyway, so I wonder if the same people are involved in both. Although the comicboard site has ??? sometimes where the wiki has dates, or at least approximate dates.

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After doing some work this weekend, I have to take back what I said about them being nearly identical. I have found numerous inconsistencies, and generally speaking, comicboard.com always seems to be the one that doesn’t make any sense.

It has the molecular disequilibrium flashback dated as 2004. Ant-Man & the Wasp cannot take place any later than 2018. The actresses portraying Ghost were 28 and 7 at the time of filming (note also that child actresses are usually older than the character they are supposed to be portraying). Foster’s character was de-aged to how Laurence Fishburn looked circa 1991. With no other hard dating evidence, this gives a realistic date range of 1991 to 1997 to work with. So where did 2004 come from?

Fury’s Big Week doesn’t make any sense. The news reports on Hulk’s rampage at Culver University in Iron Man 2 before it ever happens. Likewise, Fury says he has more important things in the Southwest before anything has happened there.

As much nonsense as I have to wade through on the Marvel wiki, I am going to stick with that.

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I don’t plan on continuing to update this project. It took way longer than I thought to do, and at a certain point it kind of outlived the novelty it had after Endgame came out. If you want to take over and have me to give you everything I had made for it, I will, but I don’t think it’ll be super impressive.

As for the inconsistencies, yeah, the MCU is held together by a thread. I just kinda made calls for whatever I thought was right when there was a contradiction, which happened a lot especially with Phase One stuff. That’s what I recommend you do as well.

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Thanks for the offer, but as I mentioned earlier, I don’t really have a way of sharing the finished product. I acknowledge that this is just going to be a fun way to marathon the movies with my friends and family. Once I found this thread, I just wanted to share that I was working on this too. I am over halfway done already (13 out of 23 movies combined so far) and I enjoy the editing, so I am going to keep at it and will probably finish it up early in the new year.

You are right about the MCU being held together by a thread. I think when you look at all of the movies, there is evidence directly dating the original Iron Man to each year from 2007 through 2010 or something like that. There is definitely a significant degree of judgement on what gets counted, what is ignored (I think everyone ignores the 8 years later at the beginning of Spider-Man: Homecoming), do you massage this number or that number to make something work, etc. I am putting everything in according to the wiki timeline right now. Once it’s all in, I will go through and see if it makes sense to me to switch any scenes around.