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STAR WARS - SEQUEL TRILOGY ENHANCEMENT

I’ve been a faneditor for about nine years now, and did a very radical The Phantom Menace edit two years ago to mixed results. I never got around to completeing the edit fully, although I did release it. I grew tired of Star Wars, and got pretty fatigue’d by the community as well as Disney. However, this horrible sequel trilogy has made me a little impatient.

I watched TFA twice in cinema. I watched TLJ twice in cinema. I hated TFA. I disliked TLJ. Upon rewatching, I hated them both - and even more so than i thought i did. And i completely dislike the entire trilogy (two-piece) thus far.

However, upon my rewatch a couple of months ago, I got some ideas. And when i get ideas that i think are plausible to execute, my fanedit senses start tingeling.

THE MAJOR ALTERATIONS:

TFA:

  • Film opens with Rey.
  • Removed inproper or bad comedy (Poe’s opening line, some banter on the Star Destroyer etc). Phasma being held hostage. Finn being a horny doofus. And more.
  • Kylo Ren is not revealed to be Han Solo and Leia’s son BEFORE after Leia is introduced. It is revealed during the emotional dialogue between her and Han.
  • No Snoke/New Emperor foreshadowing, except by name - twice. We acknowledge that Kylo Ren and Hux have a boss. That is it.
  • No Death Star Weapon/Planet. Starkiller Base is just a base, with no doom weapon. Our characters travel there to do a surprise attack as well as save the force-sensitive Rey. It follows the film’s original run of events, except anything that includes the weapon.
  • Rey does not win over Kylo Ren in the duel. She manages to surprise him, but no fatal strike - the ground splits, she runs off in fear. Kylo falls to the ground. We do not see him after this.

The main reason to these changes is to remove the ANH ripoff that this film is, and to make it stand more on its own two feet. Removing Snoke is also to make Kylo the main baddie, to not hype up “The new emperor” before his death in TLJ - and therefore not disappointing the audience upon Snoke’s death in TLJ as much as it did. His TLJ death will now not be as devestating to the overall plot (because he was now not foreshadowed to be the main baddie).

TLJ:

  • The film starts with Rey. 12 minute opening.
  • Luke did not try to kill Kylo Ren.
  • Luke does not throw his lightsaber away. He gives it back to Rey in what should now be an emotional scene.
  • Luke has no traitor-y or coward-y traits besides his guilt over Kylo and his former Jedi Temple’s doom.
  • Luke doesn’t make Rey sound like some of the strongest shit ever put to existence. This includes removing all the “I did not fear it then, but i do NOW”.
  • Luke is nicer to Rey and her situation than in the original film. He’s no longer on the brink of being a want-to-be-dead character.
  • Rey trains on the island during the events of the film. Two training montages. A lot of time goes by. The audience can expect her to have been there for at least two or three weeks.
  • Finn’s scenes are more streamlined (removing the six-scene gaps before he actually goes on his sideplot-mission).
  • And of course, Canto Bight and all that crap is streamlined into something a lot more bearable and the events go by in a pace on the brink of lightning.
  • No flying Leia.

… - and a lot of the obvious “done hundred times before” edits that the film need will be done as well.

Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Credits:

  • Happily borrowed Hosnian Scene destruction idea and execution from NevererGreat’s edit / Hal 9000, with my own alterations to fit my story.

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.

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I really loved your Ancient Lore fanedit, so I’m curious to see what you do here. Im saving working on my sequel trilogy edits until after Rise of Skywalker is released, but Ive actually liked the sequel trilogy so far. But your changes sound interesting- I especially like the removal of Snoke and centering the story around Rey.
Will there also be color corrections and music and dialogue changes like The Ancient Lore? because that was amazing.

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Here’s a suggestion: don’t have Han be a smuggler in The Force Awakens, because it completely goes against all of his character development in the original trilogy.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

Im definitely interested in seeing these

Happy to hear that!

SkyAnakid said:

Will there also be color corrections and music and dialogue changes like The Ancient Lore? because that was amazing.

Definitely.

FreezingTNT2 said:

Here’s a suggestion: don’t have Han be a smuggler in The Force Awakens, because it completely goes against all of his character development in the original trilogy.

Excellent suggestion! I’ll remove any mention of him being a smuggler again. Perhaps try to find a way to make him have another title.

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
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Anjohan said:

Removing Snoke is also to make Kylo the main baddie, to not hype up “The new emperor” before his death in TLJ - and therefore not disappointing the audience upon Snoke’s death in TLJ as much as it did. His TLJ death will now not be as devestating to the overall plot (because he was now not foreshadowed to be the main baddie).

I don’t think that it was his presence that hyped Snoke up. I mean, why didn’t Yoda sence this extra dark side presence at any point? What was he doing during episodes 1-6? He is stronger than Palatine (apparently)? All of these questions (and I’m sure more) are what hyped him up, not how much he was in TFA.

If Snoke was just some rich evil guy from the outer rim that saw his chance at building up his own empire by offering his wealth (cut out his force abilities), it would have all worked.

This would have told us where all their funding is coming from, Kylo and Hux would still have seen him as their boss and his death in TLJ wouldn’t of been an issue. Kylo would of had all the funding they needed by that point and his continued presence wouldn’t have added to the story any further. His lack of force abilities wouldn’t have set the audience up to think he was “the final boss” either.

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DougieP said:

Anjohan said:

Removing Snoke is also to make Kylo the main baddie, to not hype up “The new emperor” before his death in TLJ - and therefore not disappointing the audience upon Snoke’s death in TLJ as much as it did. His TLJ death will now not be as devestating to the overall plot (because he was now not foreshadowed to be the main baddie).

I don’t think that it was his presence that hyped Snoke up. I mean, why didn’t Yoda sence this extra dark side presence at any point? What was he doing during episodes 1-6? He is stronger than Palatine (apparently)? All of these questions (and I’m sure more) are what hyped him up, not how much he was in TFA.

If Snoke was just some rich evil guy from the outer rim that saw his chance at building up his own empire by offering his wealth (cut out his force abilities), it would have all worked.

This would have told us where all their funding is coming from, Kylo and Hux would still have seen him as their boss and his death in TLJ wouldn’t of been an issue. Kylo would of had all the funding they needed by that point and his continued presence wouldn’t have added to the story any further. His lack of force abilities wouldn’t have set the audience up to think he was “the final boss” either.

I agree on all these things, yes, except the fact that his presence does not hype him up. There i completely disagree.

Having him as a commanding presence in hologram form - three times, during TFA, sets him up as the main antagonist by far. He is commanding both Kylo Ren and General Hux. He is known in the ways of the force (this already sets him up to be a Sith of some sort). And even worse, we have not yet seen him in his physical form. The audience almost DEMAND to see him in the next film, this time in the flesh. In other words, The Force Awakens sets him up for BIG REVEALS and an even more commanding presence. Also, the parallels to The Emperor is uncanny.

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.

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Anjohan said:

I agree on all these things, yes, except the fact that his presence does not hype him up. There i completely disagree.

Having him as a commanding presence in hologram form - three times, during TFA, sets him up as the main antagonist by far. He is commanding both Kylo Ren and General Hux. He is known in the ways of the force (this already sets him up to be a Sith of some sort). And even worse, we have not yet seen him in his physical form. The audience almost DEMAND to see him in the next film, this time in the flesh. In other words, The Force Awakens sets him up for BIG REVEALS and an even more commanding presence. Also, the parallels to The Emperor is uncanny.

You make good points, I do remember the “Is he really that tall?” etc questions popping up. Would only mentioning him not also build up the hype? I’m not sure but I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

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TFA Updates:

  • Make Han Solo less of a Smuggler, and more like a rogue. It’s more up to the audience to choose his occupation for this film. All we know, and need to know, is that he and Leia parted ways due to Kylo Ren’s turn to the dark side. That broke their hearts, and Han Solo needed to part ways and do something on his own. This includes alterting the Rathar sequence (which is also heavily trimmed in this edit from beforehand).
  • Rey does not pilot The Falcon like a God. Or like Han Solo. She barely gets the ship of its feet, does a turn - gives Finn the oppurtunity to fire on the Tie-Fighter - and then they leave the planet in a hurry. I despise The Falcon sequence on Jakku, main reason being Rey’s magical handeling of it.

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
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Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.

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Anjohan said:

  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Also Anjohan:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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Anjohan said:

Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Seriously impressive - as always, mate 😃

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Anjohan said:

Luke’s handeling of the saber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRGy8rm3iQ

Luke agrees to train Rey, once she gives her a speech about Leia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSiBwwVvNNo

Rey’s first training lesson (Not completely finished): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TwFCido9g

  • For this sequence; audio is not completely finished (cleaned up), and I want a better Rey to Kylo transition. I might also change the soundtrack.

Kylo’s inner turmoil, and Leia’s heartbreak over her son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCfk7kqmoEg

Have in mind that none of these clips are fully completed, but very near.

OFFICIAL UPDATES:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.
  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Oh its beautiful.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Thank you, my friends. Means a lot! ❤️

Someone asked me two questions on the videos, but I’ll answer them here for clearity:

  • No, there will be no voice over/additional lines to Luke in the opening scene. This would only work if he actually said a line first.

  • Yes, Luke mourning his dearest friend is of course included, and instead of the scene transition to Leia (which i thought was more important to give to Kylo to strengthen their relationship) we move along with a beautiful shot of the island and another scene with Luke and Rey. It might sound stale for some, but I think it works beautiful.

Also, have in mind; Luke and Leia get their two moments later on in the film. One when Luke transfers some of his remaining powers to her, and the second on “Insert Hoth 2”.

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The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
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Anjohan said:

All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Quoth the Palps, “Dewit.”

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FreezingTNT2 said:

Anjohan said:

  • All the SW films have a saber duel, so I’ve borrowed Snoke’s Guard’s sequence with lightsabers. However, I might give them different colors (perhaps they all have purple instead of red, or two of them with purple and the rest red).

Also Anjohan:

  • Luke has his original saber (green) during the Kylo confrontation.

Hehe, DUEL. Not saber showcasing. “look at my saber while i dodge your attacks” doesn’t count!

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I need some feedback on this approach, before I either give it the green light or the bin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7oIDRXkmw

This change is to TRY and up Kylo’s stakes in the film, and also make his motivation later on to betray Snoke clearer. Audio happily borrowed from a YouTuber.

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Anjohan said:

I need some feedback on this approach, before I either give it the green light or the bin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7oIDRXkmw

This change is to TRY and up Kylo’s stakes in the film, and also make his motivation later on to betray Snoke clearer. Audio happily borrowed from a YouTuber.

I like the concept of it quite a lot and think it does up the stakes and give an insight into why Kylo may feel he is being played for a fool by Snoke (afterall, Kylo has already killed his dad…)

It did require a few repeat viewings to hear clearly what Snoke was saying - despite that it was some good voice acting (just the audio levels were a little off) - or I need another hearing test 😉

I think it is a solid idea, mate.

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oojason said:

Anjohan said:

I need some feedback on this approach, before I either give it the green light or the bin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7oIDRXkmw

This change is to TRY and up Kylo’s stakes in the film, and also make his motivation later on to betray Snoke clearer. Audio happily borrowed from a YouTuber.

I like the concept of it quite a lot and think it does up the stakes and give an insight into why Kylo may feel he is being played for a fool by Snoke (afterall, Kylo has already killed his dad…)

It did require a few repeat viewings to hear clearly what Snoke was saying - despite that it was some good voice acting (just the audio levels were a little off) - or I need another hearing test 😉

I think it is a solid idea, mate.

Cheers, bud. I agree. He should by now feel that Snoke is only using him to get rid of important figures, not by any concern or care for him.

I will heighten the audio levels a small fraction at the words I think are the hardest to hear, but on my Home Cinema System it does sound alright.

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I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to know if its passable.

I need more input from people here. If not enough input, or people find it jarring, I simply will remove it. This was an afterthought.

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Anjohan said:

idir_hh said:

I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to know if its passable.

I need more input from people here. If not enough input, or people find it jarring, I simply will remove it. This was an afterthought.

Why not just cut up audio clips of Snoke speaking and re-arrange them to make new dialogue, like how the “Despacito 2” parody video remixed existing audio clips from Despacito? (Yeah, I know that it’d sound a little choppy and sometimes robotic, but at least it’d be close to what Snoke’s voice sounds like)

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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FreezingTNT2 said:

Anjohan said:

idir_hh said:

I’m not saying you do a bad voice impression of Snoke,I just think its noticeably different and it might be a little jarring for some.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to know if its passable.

I need more input from people here. If not enough input, or people find it jarring, I simply will remove it. This was an afterthought.

Why not just cut up audio clips of Snoke speaking and re-arrange them to make new dialogue, like how the “Despacito 2” parody video remixed existing audio clips from Despacito? (Yeah, I know that it’d sound a little choppy and sometimes robotic, but at least it’d be close to what Snoke’s voice sounds like)

This was my original idea, but it didn’t work out nearly as good as this from the post above. And also, I don’t really think that works well enough either.

So I’m probably going to stick with the original cut, unless I dub Snoke into a foreign Alien language and subtitle him. Kylo Ren/Ben knowing his language would be plausible, having been under his command for recent years.

If I should pursue either of these ideas, I would have to start work; tonight.

I want these two edits out the same day that Rise of Skywalker releases. They’ve been in the works for too long. I want people to experience these two films as much more original pieces to the Star Wars saga than what they were presented as.

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I would love to see a scene at the end of TFA, when Han is killed, we get a quick cutaway (like in Empire when Luke was on the Falcon talking to Vader) First Leia, knowing Han was just killed, then Luke, as he feels it also. That’s how I would have done that scene originally. It would have mirrored Empire. That would have been Luke’s first scene. Fans would have gotten that.

I don’t get why they don’t get this when making new Star Wars films.