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Yeah: a few standardized screen caps included right in the FAQ post. Personally, for any new set I like to see:

(a) if the thing's anamorphic;
(b) what's up with Greedo's subs -- hard or soft, font, size, colour, accuracy, etc.;
(c) if the menus suck or not -- and what to look for when the disc's fired up, to be able to tell different versions apart; and
(d) some technical details, like sharpness, colour, blown-out whites, crushed blacks, noise, etc.

I think most of that could be distilled to just two or three caps for the first film, and maybe two for each other film. Seven screen caps -- OK, say a maximum of 10 -- to more or less define a set would be acceptable, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, I could live with that, add the encoder used, and capture method and equipment (CLD-2950 LD player to a Flyvideo 9000SUX catpure card using Virtualdub etc.)
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Now we are getting somewhere...

I think that summary should be the second post of any new release thread. The first post is the basic explanation, setting up the discussion about the project. The second post should be a bullet pointed summary like the sample above. It would travel with the topic and there would not be a need for a sticky. This also would allow us to talk about the original post and the tangents that arise during that topic discussion freely without messing up the vital info.

Is there a way to automatically insert a space for the summary in the forum software?

This is looking really useful and will save us all a lot of time from yelling at people who don't want to read for eight straight hours.
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Title : Cowclops v1 Original Trilogy DVDr Set (originally known as the TR47 set)

Number of discs in set : 4 - 1 disc for Bonus Materials
Disc Sizes : ANH 4.33gb, ESB 4.36gb, ROJ 4.35gb, Bonus 3.99gb
Video Bitrate: 4-7 Mbps (average rate)
Audio Bitrate: Main - LPCM 1536 Kbps

Media Used : 1993 Defintive Collection Laserdiscs (NTSC). CAV format
Region : NTSC based
Sound : PCM Audio
Screen : Letterbox Widescreen
Title Screen / Menus : No
Chapter Markers : Yes, but not the original laserdisc markers
Commentaries : No
Subtitles (other than alien subtitles) : No
Easter Eggs : No
Year Of Release : 2003
Dual Layer DVD Version Available : No
Specific DVD Cover & Disc Art available : No - would recommend Cerberus' DC covers

Equipment Used : Pioneer CLD-59 Elite Laserdisc Player
Encoder Used : CinemaCraft Encoder
Software Used : DVDit PE, Nero, various noise filter software (?)
Capture Method : onto a DV format

Editing Notes : Hooked up the s-video out on a Pioneer Elite CLD-59 Laserdisc player to a Sony Digital8 camcorder with analog in. Recorded the video to DV format by way of the camcorder, and used firewire to digitally transfer the video into the computer. From there, used several programs to filter out the noise from the laserdisc. Then, encoded the video to DVD format with CinemaCraft Encoder SP. Finally, authored the DVD with DVDit PE and wrote it to a Ritek 2x DVD-R with a Pioneer DVR-104 drive using Nero.

Glitches / Errors : ESB has 4 seconds of blank screen before Leia welding footage (At 50m 31s). ROJ - on some DVD players there MAY be a slight stutter when a speeder bike explodes due to a bitrate jump.

Bonus Disc Info : Same content as the 1993 DC Supplemental Materials laserdisc.

Overall Comments : Along with the Dr Gonzo Anamorphic Set it is one of the most popular Original Trilogy dvdr sets available.


Chaper Markers:-

A New Hope:

1. Opening Title (0:00)
2. Preparing to be Boarded (2:34)
3. Lost in the Desert (8:54)
4. Sandcrawler (13:06)
5. Cleaning Up the Droids (19:17)
6. Artoo in the Jundland Wastes (27:22)
7. Obi-Wan's Home (32:11)
8. The Death Star (36:31)
9. Mos Eisley (42:23)
10. A Fast Ship (46:51)
11. The Jump to Lightspeed (53:12)
12. The Falcon Captured (1:02:48)
13. Prisoner Transfer (1:09:59)
14. The Trash Compactor (1:16:34)
15. Lightsabers (1:27:21)
16. TIEs in Pursuit (1:31:08)
17. Artoo's Data (1:36:00)
18. Fighter Attack (1:42:19)
19. The Victors Return (1:54:44)
20. End Credits (1:57:11)


The Empire Strikes Back:

1. Opening Title (0:00)
2. Probe Droids (1:55)
3. Wampa's Lair (8:18)
4. Snowspeeders at Dawn (15:02)
5. "It could be an Imperial code" (18:09)
6. "Prepare for ground assault" (22:20)
7. Launching the Snowspeeders (25:11)
8. Evacuating the Command Center (31:17)
9. Setting Course for Dagobah (36:11)
10. A Soggy Landing (41:22)
11. Asteroid Hiding Place (44:52)
12. The Emperor (52:08)
13. Jedi Training (1:00:26)
14. Leaving the Asteroid Field (1:06:00)
15. Garbage Day (1:13:51)
16. Bespin (1:17:45)
17. Leaving Dagobah (1:22:02)
18. Cloud City's New Arrangements (1:27:21)
19. Luke at Cloud City (1:33:20)
20. Duel in the Carbon Freezing Chamber (1:39:22)
21. Revelations and Losses (1:48:13)
22. Leaving Bespin (1:54:36)
23. A Hand for Luke (1:58:11)
24. End Credits (2:00:21)


Return of the Jedi:

1. Opening Title (0:00)
2. Vader arrives at Death Star II (1:56)
3. Gifts to Jabba (4:58)
4. The Bounty on Chewbacca (14:02)
5. Escape from the Carbonite (17:06)
6. Enter the Jedi (21:53)
7. Sarlacc (29:06)
8. Departing Tatooine; An Old Friend (36:17)
9. Yoda (38:43)
10. The Fleet Assembles (47:34)
11. Vader and the Emperor (52:43)
12. Endor (56:04)
13. Vader returns to the Emperor (1:05:28)
14. A Feast in 3PO's Honor (1:11:11)
15. Tribal Council (1:15:01)
16. Father and Son Reunited (1:21:39)
17. The Fleet Enters Hyperspace (1:25:59)
18. Meeting the Emperor (1:29:17)
19. All According to His Plans (1:34:39)
20. Fully Armed and Operational (1:39:31)
21. Hotwiring The Bunker (1:41:30)
22. "Obi-Wan has taught you well..." (1:47:48)
23. The Full Power of the Dark Side (1:54:42)
24. Fighter Attack (1:56:45)
25. The Mask Comes Off (1:58:39)
26. Funeral (2:03:56)
27. End Credits (2:06:36)




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That is awesome. I really wish one of the moderators could make a pinned thread that has info exactly like this for each OT preservation, PT edit, and bonus material disc made. I mean, am I the only one who would like to see something like this? It would take a lot of work, but like I said, I'd be happy to contribute as much as I am able.
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Title : Row47 Original Trilogy DVDr Set - based on Cowclops / TR47 v1 Set

This version is exactly the same set as the Cowclops / TR47 v1 set, EXCEPT each disc in the trilogy now has a basic title screen, and that the 2 errors - 4 blank seconds in ESB before the Leia welding scene, and a possible stutter during a scene where a speeder bike explodes in ROJ due to a large bitrate jump, have been corrected.

This version was completed by RowMan.




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(1st off - I don't have this version - so this is cobbled from info throughout this thread - some of which I have no doubt I've misinterpretated or just got wrong. If anyone has the set and can come up with any missing or corrected info, then that'll be great. Many thanks to Rikter, agr1170, grinder, rowman, jzilli, 88keyz and everyone for posting info on the sets.


Title : Cowclops v2 Original Trilogy DVDr Set (in association with by TR47)

Number of discs in set : 7 dvds - 4 discs of Bonus Materials + a cd of dvd covers
Disc Sizes : ANH 4.18gb, ESB 4.22gb, ROJ 4.30gb
Video Bitrate:
Audio Bitrate:

Media Used : 1993 Definitive Collection Laserdiscs (NTSC). CAV format.
Region : NTSC Based
Sound : PCM Audio
Screen : Anamorphic Widescreen
Title Screen / Menus : Yes - with chapter selection + motion and sound during playing menus
Chapter Markers : Yes
Commentaries : Yes - from the 1993 DC Laserdiscs
Subtitles (other than alien subtitles) : No
Easter Eggs : Yes - but only on the Bonus Discs for ANH, ESB and ROJ (7 disc set)
Year Of Release : 2005
Dual Layer DVD Version Available : No
Specific DVD Cover & Disc Art available : No, would recommend Cerberus' DC covers

Equipment Used : Pioneer CLD-97 Laserdisc player
Encoder Used : CinemaCraft Encoder
Software Used : Nero, Tmpgenc
Capture Method : Phillips based 10-bit Asus tv fm capture card, HuffyUV

Editing Notes :

Glitches / Errors :


Bonus Disc Info : 4 discs - a combination of materials from the 1995 Faces and 1993 DC Laserdiscs Sets:-

A New Hope Bonus Disc
George Lucas Interview Part 1
The Making of Star Wars
Trailers & Promos
Cast Auditions - Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher & Harrison Ford
Deleted Scenes - Lukes Intro, Anchorhead, Biggs Confides in Luke, The Cantina early cut
Parodies - Saturday Night Live (Carrie Fisher), Simpsons & Troops
Easter Egg - Pink Five (Parody Death Star Run)

The Empire Strikes Back Bonus Disc
George Lucas Interview Part 2
Clapperboard (TESB)
Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams, Anthony Daniels & Harrison Ford Interview
SP FX: TESB
Trailers & Promos
Deleted Scenes/Pictures - Lukes Recovery, Wampas in Echo Base, C3PO’s Diversion & Another Bespin Kiss
Rare TV Clips - Commercials & Sesame Street (C3PO & R2D2)
Easter Egg - Star Wars Gangsta Rap

Return Of The Jedi Bonus Disc
George Lucas Interview Part 3
From Star Wars To Jedi: The Making of a Saga
Classic Creatures: ROTJ
Trailers & Promos
Deleted Scenes/Pictures – Jedi Jump, Vaders Walk, Tatooine Sandstorm & Jerjerrods Death
Rare TV Clips
THX Demos - WOW & Putting Together The Soundtrack
Easter Egg - Who's On First?

The 4th Bonus Disc is the same as the bonus disc from v1 cowclops/tr47 set - it's content is that from the 1993 Definitve Collection bonus materials laserdisc.


Overall Comments :




There are sceenshots of this version on pages 5, 9, 14, 16 & 24 of this thread. On page 24 there are screenshots of subtitles used during the Greedo/Han Cantina scene from ANH. There are also screenshots of this set in the 'official screenshots thread'...




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Hey there gang!

Well it's now been almost a month and no trades yet?!

So if anyone has this set (has anyone got a copy yet?) and wants to trade I'll be more then happy to trade ya for it!


“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Rikter -

You still don't have copies? Damn.

Would someone send him copies so we can get these babies on myspleen?

Help a brother out..
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Rikter started this thread, so the best way to get the updated summary info in the right place is to have him edit his first post. The stuff oojason has put here can be copied to the first post of the thread, so that all the current info is there. That works wonders at places like doom9. Much less intimidating for people new to a huge thread.

Hell, it's even better for the oldtimers in a thread, too: if I were a noob, I wouldn't bother reading more than about 5 pages; I'd just post my question, get yelled at, and have someone either answer it or point me directly where to go.
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Rikter started this thread, so the best way to get the updated summary info in the right place is to have him edit his first post. The stuff oojason has put here can be copied to the first post of the thread, so that all the current info is there. That works wonders at places like doom9. Much less intimidating for people new to a huge thread.

Hell, it's even better for the oldtimers in a thread, too: if I were a noob, I wouldn't bother reading more than about 5 pages; I'd just post my question, get yelled at, and have someone either answer it or point me directly where to go.


Yep - I'm planning on REVAMPING the whole front page with all new info ONCE I get the set - THANKS for the OFFERS for the set I look forward to getting these uploaded - I will be uploading the FIRST 3 discs IN order and one after the other and then the extras STAGGERED between Superman RIC and some other NONE Star Wars stuff - I also plan on sharing these with THE DARK ONE to be posted on the newsgroups if he's down for it.

Like I said in the past - I WILL be GIVING away about ten sets of the "3 DISC set" TO REGISTERED SEEDERS and UPLOADERS on MYSPLEEN.NET and If I can find a MEMEBER or UPLOADER from another torrent site to also upload the set THAT would be SWEET - SO if you can upload on another site send me the sites URL and reg info so you can then PM me from that site also -

The goal is to have 5 seeds on MYSPLEEN and 4 seeds on another + 1 more uploader on the NEWSGROUPS (The Dark One - I hope) once I upload the set with help form OOJASONS info for the NFO's + COVERS by myself and any others that wish to contribute to the COWCLOPS V.2 set

I will also delete the old COWCLOPS V.1 (tr47) set from MYSPLEEN and I ask that if your seeding it to please DROP the torrent and DELETE the DVD from your HD's - The V.2 set one is a comin'!!!!

PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME to request a set for FREE - I will only take PM's AT MYSPLEEN.NET for this - DEAL?

AGAIN I DO NOT YET HAVE it and I will burn off 10 copies OR if you want to forward me a set to PASS on to another uploader THAT would BE awesome (this will take 30 discs and I want to use SONY DVD+/-R made by TAIYO YUDEN burned at 4x for the uploaders )

AGAIN I thank you all for your support!!!!!!

- THESE DVD's will be released in about 2 weeks or LESS and the world will then enjoy them...





- at least till the XO Project is done!

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For Cowclops v2:

Disc Sizes : ANH 4.18gb, ESB 4.22gb, ROJ 4.30gb

I would give you video & audio bitrates, but I am not positive how to do this for DVDs. I can help if you let me know what to do
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cheers for the info jzili

AVIcodec - a small 434k program will tell you all the info on the discs regarding bitrate - audio and visual - it is available free to download here - http://avicodec.duby.info/

I'm not sure what other programs does this...

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GSpot is my favorite for A/V file details.

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Originally posted by: Rikter
I will also delete the old COWCLOPS V.1 (tr47) set from MYSPLEEN and I ask that if your seeding it to please DROP the torrent and DELETE the DVD from your HD's
"That version doesn't exist anymore." Sounds familiar ?

... the sincerest form of flattery

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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Originally posted by: Rikter

The goal is to have 5 seeds on MYSPLEEN and 4 seeds on another + 1 more uploader on the NEWSGROUPS (The Dark One - I hope) once I upload the set with help form OOJASONS info for the NFO's + COVERS by myself and any others that wish to contribute to the COWCLOPS V.2 set


I just received my set and I will gladly seed it when you get it on MYSPLEEN Rik.

I watched "A New Hope" with my 6 year old daughter. Nice menus, animated chapter menus, picture and sound quality are good but after further viewing versus V1 on different setups I got to say I like V1 better, the picture quality looks better. Now I am not saying V2 is not good, it is a good quality set, thats my own opinion. Thanks to Cowclops and TR47 for doing these.

I got the 7 disc set (actually 8 counting the CDR of covers). The extras discs are LOADED to the brim with all the goodies, even some rare stuff I had not seen before. I can list the extras if needed.

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I wonder if it´s on the cards to send copies of the new Cowclops DVD´s to Prillaman, who has done those extensive and great reviews of available Star Wars bootlegs on his site www.prillaman.net ? Also it would be interesting to hear some reviews from peepz who have received the set. It´s all about the comparison...
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lads - the more info on the set - the better

Would be great if someone could post a screencap of the subtitles being used from the Greedo/Han scene from ANH...

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Ask and you shall receive. Played back and captured using InterVideo WinDVD7 and compressed to JPG format using PicPress from Pegasus Imaging.

With the original subs from the laserdisc (non-removable)

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcsales/anh_ldsubs.jpg

With the original subs from the laserdisc (non-removable) and the Cowclops created subs (removable)

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcsales/anh_dvdsubs.jpg

I only have a standard TV so I watch them with the Cowclops subs turned off.


[Off Topic]PicPress is THE best JPG compressor ever for both size and quality, blows Photoshop away. Turned these 852x480 BMP files into 40-50KB JPG files on its highest quality setting, the same files compressed using PhotoShop are twice the size and don't look as sharp or as detailed as the ones saved using PicPress. The program has long been removed from the Pegasus website but the free trial version can still be downloaded from this link. Program has since been replaced with The JPEG Wizard v2 and its well worth the USD$29 asking price.[/Off Topic]
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I just got the cowclops v.2 discs and it is an amazing set. Video and audio quality is great. Thank to Cowclops for the great job on tranferring the set, and to TR47 for sending them.
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Here are some side by side comparision shots of the two transfers. I picked selected frames from Zion's comparision page so that if you want you can also compare v.2 to other releases that are currently available.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcsales/compare-0.jpg

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcsales/compare-1.jpg

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcsales/compare-2.jpg

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Ummm....are those pictures reversed because for some reason, the old version looks better than the new one....

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Originally posted by: Mavimao
Ummm....are those pictures reversed because for some reason, the old version looks better than the new one....

Exactly my thought...
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Nope, I guarantee you they're not. If you zoom in on the pictures you will see less jaggies in the new version but based on the screen caps overall quality appears to be better in the original release. Keep in mind though that a single frame capture is not a good measure of picture quality, you really need to compare video clips not screen caps. Trust me this new transfer is at least of equal quality and in many cases better, especially where there was compression artifacts in the original release there are almost none in the new release. In any case though don't throw away those original TR-47 releases just yet, especially if you own a standard television. My main gripe about this new release is that the black bars at the top and bottom of the picture aren't quite as black as the ones generated by my DVD player so I can see the seperation point, though if you own a widescreen set this won't be an issue.
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Wow, I hope those screenshots aren't representative of the actual product because v1 definitely looks better than v2 in those shots.