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Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

Next time try reading what is posted - before replying.

oojason said:

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I make my posts pretty clear, and if anyone has an issue with them they are always welcome to ask questions or talk about them with me (or even PM me) - this is a discussion forum after all. Though I don’t really appreciate being cast with incorrect aspersions (not many people do at all, I imagine).

Though I accept your apology - even with whatever you wrote after it as some sort of redundant caveat / excuse as to why you wrongfully (and seemingly narcissistically) read into and then posted what you did - despite my already stating it was not about anything on here.

Cheers.
 

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Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

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^ The delectable Joanna Lumley.

(I must get around to watching some ‘Sapphire and Steel’ again one day)
 

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SilverWook said:

Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

Non-canon as far as I know.

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oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

Next time try reading what is posted - before replying.

oojason said:

(other sites)

I make my posts pretty clear, and if anyone has an issue with them they are always welcome to ask questions or talk about them with me (or even PM me) - this is a discussion forum after all. Though I don’t really appreciate being cast with incorrect aspersions (not many people do at all, I imagine).

Though I accept your apology - even with whatever you wrote after it as some sort of redundant caveat / excuse as to why you wrongfully (and seemingly narcissistically) read into and then posted what you did - despite my already stating it was not about anything on here.

Cheers.
 

I know you said “(other sites)”, but I still didn’t get that what you were talking about had nothing to do with this site. I thought maybe it started here and then you thought it spread to another site. I admit I rushed to judgement. Again, I am Sorry.

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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

Non-canon as far as I know.

Who cares.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

Non-canon as far as I know.

Who cares.

I guess only me.

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oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

Next time try reading what is posted - before replying.

oojason said:

(other sites)

I make my posts pretty clear, and if anyone has an issue with them they are always welcome to ask questions or talk about them with me (or even PM me) - this is a discussion forum after all. Though I don’t really appreciate being cast with incorrect aspersions (not many people do at all, I imagine).

Though I accept your apology - even with whatever you wrote after it as some sort of redundant caveat / excuse as to why you wrongfully (and seemingly narcissistically) read into and then posted what you did - despite my already stating it was not about anything on here.

Cheers.
 

Be careful not to choke on those aspirations. 😛.

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Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

To be clear, I meant “Next time you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.”

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Warbler said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

To be clear, I meant “Next time you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.”

or you could try not taking offense or assuming offense was intended.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

To be clear, I meant “Next time you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.”

or you could try not taking offense or assuming offense was intended.

I have admitted I rushed to judgement. I am sorry I did that. I was wrong.

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Warbler said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I’ll leave the conversation there - as it wasn’t about you (or anything to do with this site)

In that case, I apologize. Next you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.

To be clear, I meant “Next time you may want to it more clear what it is you are talking about.”

Gosh, I really do need to proofread better, I left out the word “make”.

It should have originally read “Next time you may want to make it more clear what it is you are talking about.”

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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

Non-canon as far as I know.

Yes, I’m just saying the idea has been around a while. If you count the Peter Cushing Dalek movies, the 1970’s stage play, and an animated web series, there are a lot of non-canon Doctors floating around.

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SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Possessed said:

You realize he was just parodying you when you say you aren’t going to engage with insert poster right?

Also I must admit my understanding of DW is very limited, but HAS it always been a male? I thought it was kinda like a trill. Sure it always HAS been a male, but does it HAVE to be? I mean it’s not like Luke was suddenly a woman in the ST or anything, doesn’t the very gimmick of the series enable the doctor to be a woman sometimes?

The Doctor turned into a woman in The Curse Of The Fatal Death, which was a one off comedy special that aired during a charity telethon in the 1990’s. Coincidentally, that was written by Steven Moffat, who worked on the new version of the show until recently.

Non-canon as far as I know.

Yes, I’m just saying the idea has been around a while. If you count the Peter Cushing Dalek movies, the 1970’s stage play, and an animated web series, there are a lot of non-canon Doctors floating around.

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Warbler said:

I really am sick and tired of all the hate I’ve been getting recently.

I know that you have an internet restraining order against me as an excuse to pretend to ignore my posts, but do you realize that all (and I do mean 100 fucking percent) of the antagonistic posts directed at you over the last few months have been in response to you aggressively annoying other people? I’m just curious if you’ve noticed that. I just genuinely want to know.

Also, as a note, most of the antagonistic posts you complain about have been totally reasonable, even if they’re harsh. You’re also the only one in those exchanges that’s ever broken forum rules, insulted people, or threatened to insult people. That’s another thing I’m curious if you’ve noticed. I know I’ll continue to be curious because you’ll read this and then not respond to it, but this is the bitching thread so I wanted to vent on that for a few sentences.

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ChainsawAsh said:

And yet people still whine about the ST being “SJW” this and “Feminazi” that. Just like people are bitching about DW having an “agenda” now.

and I am sure that every single person that is upset with the ST is upset for only one reason: a female lead. Yeah, right.

Also, neither Leia nor Padme were the leads in their trilogies.

come on, both were major stars in their trilogies. One can argue that Leia outranked both Luke and Han in the Rebellion. Padme was the leader of a whole planet and a Senator.

Similarly to how DW has had strong female characters for decades in companions like Barbara, Liz Shaw, Sarah Jane, Ace, Amy Pond, and so on and so forth, but God forbid you cast a woman in the lead role…

They didn’t just cast a women, they turned a character that had been make for over 50 years into a female. They didn’t do it for the sake of the show, they did it for PC reasons

Likely it was done for both reasons simultaneously…it appears the newest obsession is the temptation to rewrite much of history (pardon, herstory 😉) so as to be ritualistically inclusive of the modern narrative…though this is not all negative, it does have a tendency to becomes particularly grating when it appears to be overtly obvious.

A female lead is refreshing in many instances and can be quite satisfying to watch, but it can also be remarkably distasteful when the reason for it coming about appears to be the result of a cynical attempt to woo a modern audience with the now dully expected gender-reversal reveal. This is not novel–it was preordained…and in being so it loses its effect. It appears more of a trite pandering and devalued attempt to ride the subset of a particular sentiment rather than a truly insightful opportunity to portray a woman in a dominant role.

It would have been a vastly improved position to have given a more realistic phasing out of the old male doctor in favour of this new preeminent character rather than this sudden forced overtaking of another’s position. This is because it would then have allowed the woman in question to have shown her proper qualifications for being so chosen and respected…it would have allowed her to essentially arrive as her own person, with as strong and independent a stride and mannerism as she should desire…whereas currently it appears merely as though she might have been placed in full force through an obvious propping up, as though affirmative action might be considered the only possible means of providing a proper central role for a woman in these circumstances…unnecessarily cheapening the experience for many, rather than providing a healthy and welcome change…

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Post Praetorian said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

And yet people still whine about the ST being “SJW” this and “Feminazi” that. Just like people are bitching about DW having an “agenda” now.

and I am sure that every single person that is upset with the ST is upset for only one reason: a female lead. Yeah, right.

Also, neither Leia nor Padme were the leads in their trilogies.

come on, both were major stars in their trilogies. One can argue that Leia outranked both Luke and Han in the Rebellion. Padme was the leader of a whole planet and a Senator.

Similarly to how DW has had strong female characters for decades in companions like Barbara, Liz Shaw, Sarah Jane, Ace, Amy Pond, and so on and so forth, but God forbid you cast a woman in the lead role…

They didn’t just cast a women, they turned a character that had been make for over 50 years into a female. They didn’t do it for the sake of the show, they did it for PC reasons

Likely it was done for both reasons simultaneously…it appears the newest obsession is the temptation to rewrite much of history (pardon, herstory 😉) so as to be ritualistically inclusive of the modern narrative…though this is not all negative, it does have a tendency to becomes particularly grating when it appears to be overtly obvious.

A female lead is refreshing in many instances and can be quite satisfying to watch, but it can also be remarkably distasteful when the reason for it coming about appears to be the result of a cynical attempt to woo a modern audience with the now dully expected gender-reversal reveal. This is not novel–it was preordained…and in being so it loses its effect. It appears more of a trite pandering and devalued attempt to ride the subset of a particular sentiment rather than a truly insightful opportunity to portray a woman in a dominant role.

It would have been a vastly improved position to have given a more realistic phasing out of the old male doctor in favour of this new preeminent character rather than this sudden forced overtaking of another’s position. This is because it would then have allowed the woman in question to have shown her proper qualifications for being so chosen and respected…it would have allowed her to essentially arrive as her own person, with as strong and independent a stride and mannerism as she should desire…whereas currently it appears merely as though she might have been placed in full force through an obvious propping up, as though affirmative action might be considered the only possible means of providing a proper central role for a woman in these circumstances…unnecessarily cheapening the experience for many, rather than providing a healthy and welcome change…

I don’t understand this at all. The show has eased audiences into the idea of a female Doctor by having other Time Lord characters swap genders when regenerating over the past few years. And the nature of how actor changes happen in the show means it has to be sudden - the Doctor is dying and must regenerate to survive. I don’t know how you’d go about “easing” any new actor into the Doctor role, let alone a woman. You can’t just introduce a female actor and then have them take over the Doctor role. That’s not how the show (or the character) works.

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You can’t just introduce a female actor and then have them take over the Doctor role. That’s not how the show (or the character) works.

Well, you could if you wanted. A multi-doctor story?

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The closest they’ve ever done to including a future Doctor in a story is the brief glimpse of Capaldi’s eyebrows in the 50th Anniversary special.

Though I have had an idea for a concept for a Doctor’s final season that would double as the next Doctor’s first season by introducing an amnesiac future Doctor as a companion, with the reveal happening when the Doctor regenerates at the end of the season…