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I doubt his account will lose moderator privileges just because he is leaving the forum. I don’t know.

I know. He’s stepping away from his position as moderator. I don’t know if that means that he’ll officially lose mod powers.

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

That’s the first I’m hearing of it.

oojason has announced that he is stepping down as a mod. (yet his sig still indicates that he is a mod)

Once a king or queen of ot_com, always a king or queen of ot_com.

Thanks man - I think 😉
 

I’m sure Jay will remove the Mod badge when he gets around to it.

moviefreakedmind said:

I know. He’s stepping away from his position as moderator. I don’t know if that means that he’ll officially lose mod powers.

Don’t underestimate the power of the Dark Mod Side!

Although any ‘mod powers’ will soon be gone (not that I’ve used them since Saturday) - I’m a regular everyday member here, just like the rest of you good people.
 

Do you feel any different?

moviefreakedmind said:

Do you feel any different?

The missus says I’ve got a new glow about me…

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Meanwhile, we’ve had a major staff departure, and it seems a good lot of you haven’t even noticed yet. 😕

I have no comment.

Yes you do.

Lol.

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

When is Frink coming back?

I assume the ban is lasting at least a month, looking at the date of last activity. That would mean 9 more days at least.

*shrug* I’m not really sorry he’s gone, though. As unpopular a position as that might be.

A gentle reminder not to knock on people who aren’t able to respond here.

I understand having limits on what one can say about someone who is banned or otherwise unable to respond and defend themselves. One certainly shouldn’t be allowed make fun of, personally attack, or name call such. But if you are going to ban all negative opinions about such, positive opinions about such should also be banned(imagine if you will how unfair we would all think it would be if mods on a forum said you were allowed to give positive opinions about Trump or some other politician but not negative opinions). Besides, if the person can’t respond be the person is banned, the mods must either agree that it is the person’s own fault that they can’t respond or that they banned someone that didn’t deserve to be banned.

Hence the gentle reminder so it doesn’t reach that level. And comparing a banned forum member to a politician is an apples and oranges argument if I’ve ever heard one.

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

When is Frink coming back?

I assume the ban is lasting at least a month, looking at the date of last activity. That would mean 9 more days at least.

*shrug* I’m not really sorry he’s gone, though. As unpopular a position as that might be.

A gentle reminder not to knock on people who aren’t able to respond here.

I understand having limits on what one can say about someone who is banned or otherwise unable to respond and defend themselves. One certainly shouldn’t be allowed make fun of, personally attack, or name call such. But if you are going to ban all negative opinions about such, positive opinions about such should also be banned(imagine if you will how unfair we would all think it would be if mods on a forum said you were allowed to give positive opinions about Trump or some other politician but not negative opinions). Besides, if the person can’t respond be the person is banned, the mods must either agree that it is the person’s own fault that they can’t respond or that they banned someone that didn’t deserve to be banned.

Hence the gentle reminder so it doesn’t reach that level. And comparing a banned forum member to a politician is an apples and oranges argument if I’ve ever heard one.

It is not apples and oranges in the way I made the comparison.

The point is, is that is is unfair to allow positive comments about X but yet not allow legit criticism of X.

No it isn’t. That statement ignores the reasoning of why criticism of X may not be allowed. Among other things.

You’re creating a strawman, Warb.

Possessed said:

What about XXX strawmen?

Would that be Vin Diesel-shaped strawmen, or pornographic strawmen?

Warbler said:

How is it a strawman? I did not ignore the reasoning of why criticism of X may not be allowed in the my initial post on the subject.

Claiming that stopping people from criticizing banned users that can’t respond is like preventing you from doing anything other than make positive statements about the country’s leader is a strawman. You either understand that or don’t know what a strawman is.

For the record, a strawman is when you create a caricature of someone’s argument, so you can then attack that caricature and make your position look more reasonable by comparison to it.

Warbler said:

The point is, is that is is unfair to allow positive comments about X but yet not allow legit criticism of X.

But it’s not unfair. The reasoning why they don’t want active users to criticize banned users is because said banned users can’t personally rebut to defend themselves. It’s not a blanket rule against criticism in general or against people in general. It is with regard to specific people for specific reasons.

And SW was not telling me off. He was giving fair warning in advance of anything actionable that we might say, while trying to be civil and friendly about it.

To brand it as “X” suggests that all negative criticism is created equal, that their reasons are unimportant, and that allowing non-negative conversation makes them hypocrites, which is not true. Therefore, attacking “criticism of ‘X’” instead of specifically criticism of banned users is a strawman.

Warbler said:

It looked to me like he was trying to politely tell you to shut up about Frink.

I just said I’m not sorry he’s gone. Maybe that’s too critical for the mods, or maybe it just opened the door for other people to be critical. I assumed the latter, but I took no offense because I won’t get banned or even harshly chastized by the mods for saying that one thing. So I was content to leave it at that and not worry about it.

Now, I’m assuming they would prefer we change the subject, so…

 
I’ve been hungry a lot in recent days. My family has been on this “intermittent fasting” thing lately, which basically means only eating within an 8-hour period each day. I’m trying to get back down to fitting into some of my pants that are now too small, but I’m not losing weight very fast, if at all, which is bothering me.