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I shall leave to you the last word on this subject, as your thoughtful responses generally provide some fairly interesting insights which bear reasonable consideration…
I wish I had something intelligent and thoughtful to say on the subject to end this, but I don’t. I sucked at handling bullies when I was kid and still do.
In hindsight, I would’ve countered my bullies’ taunts with witty repartee.
In hindsight, I would’ve done a lot of things differently.
Violence, man, I’m tellin’ you.
The Person in Question
I agree with a less extreme mfm. Efforts would be much better spent teaching kids how to defend themselves against bullies than preventing bullying, because that ain’t gonna happen so you might as well teach people to not be a victim. Would it be great if we could stop bullying? Obvi. But we can’t.
Never heard his music, so I can only guess. And since I hate pretty much all popular music these days (that I’ve heard) I tend to lean towards the expectation that I won’t like it.
Well, if that’s how you feel…
I just thought it was funny that, of all the mainstream musicians, he’s probably the least deserving of being shit on for being not a “real musician.”
And who cares what you expect from me?
I agree with a less extreme mfm. Efforts would be much better spent teaching kids how to defend themselves against bullies than preventing bullying, because that ain’t gonna happen so you might as well teach people to not be a victim. Would it be great if we could stop bullying? Obvi. But we can’t.
Another (albeit complimentary rather than exclusive) answer is to hold the bully accountable for their actions as well, though how effective this is in elementary/grade school is debatable. It’s more of a way to deal with adults, or at least the examples I can think of are.
Never heard his music, so I can only guess. And since I hate pretty much all popular music these days (that I’ve heard) I tend to lean towards the expectation that I won’t like it.
Well, if that’s how you feel…
I just thought it was funny that, of all the mainstream musicians, he’s probably the least deserving of being shit on for being not a “real musician.”
That may be the case. I’ve never listened to his music, but every single other mainstream musician that I’ve heard that is lauded as being basically perfect by almost everyone (e.g. Kanye, Katy Perry, Beyonce, Sam Smith, Drake, Megan Trainor, etc. etc.) has failed to impress me one bit. So my thoughts on Lamar are basically: I hate 99% of what our mainstream culture offers in terms of music, so why should I even bother sampling the other 1%? And just so you know, I’m one of these assholes that thinks 1979 was the last year that any good music came out. There’s great music today, but by and large it’s ignored because quality products typically aren’t marketable to mainstream audiences these days. That goes for movies, books, music, and pretty much everything else.
The Person in Question
I agree with a less extreme mfm. Efforts would be much better spent teaching kids how to defend themselves against bullies than preventing bullying, because that ain’t gonna happen so you might as well teach people to not be a victim. Would it be great if we could stop bullying? Obvi. But we can’t.
Another (albeit complimentary rather than exclusive) answer is to hold the bully accountable for their actions as well, though how effective this is in elementary/grade school is debatable. It’s more of a way to deal with adults, or at least the examples I can think of are.
It isn’t effective with kids. A lot of bullies get suspended or sent to detention if they’re caught by a competent administrator, but if they don’t have attentive parents to actually help them understand why it’s wrong then the punishment alone likely won’t mean anything. Most bullies that I remember were constantly in and out of the principal’s office and it didn’t change their thuggery one bit.
The Person in Question
Black person: White people should not use that word under any circumstance.
mfm: You’re childish.
Have I got that right?
If “under any circumstance” includes when quoting something, when referring to the word itself, or when writing or playing a character, then yes I absolutely would say that that person is being childish and can’t understand context. I don’t understand why that’s unreasonable.
I think that most black people would get what I’m saying here and not shrug me off as some ignorant, mean white person. I, unlike most white Americans, actually do acknowledge the racism that still exists in this country. I actually am outraged by our racist justice system and our militant, guns-a-blazin’ police forces. I actually am outraged that our nationalistic buffoon of a president and our nationalistic population condemn and slander black athletes as unpatriotic for daring to peacefully protest during the sacred national anthem (which apparently these nationalistic assholes think is more sacred than lives of this country’s citizens). I actually do care that our bought-and-paid-for politicians vote in favor of policies that result in the unjust mass-incarceration of black people so that the private prison industry can make some extra money. I actually am in favor of protesting in the streets demanding that our systems change. So hopefully me not wanting to pointlessly substitute a child-like euphemism in order to water down a word that I consider hateful won’t taint my image in the eyes of black America.
The Person in Question
I agree with a less extreme mfm. Efforts would be much better spent teaching kids how to defend themselves against bullies than preventing bullying, because that ain’t gonna happen so you might as well teach people to not be a victim. Would it be great if we could stop bullying? Obvi. But we can’t.
Another (albeit complimentary rather than exclusive) answer is to hold the bully accountable for their actions as well, though how effective this is in elementary/grade school is debatable. It’s more of a way to deal with adults, or at least the examples I can think of are.
It isn’t effective with kids. A lot of bullies get suspended or sent to detention if they’re caught by a competent administrator, but if they don’t have attentive parents to actually help them understand why it’s wrong then the punishment alone likely won’t mean anything. Most bullies that I remember were constantly in and out of the principal’s office and it didn’t change their thuggery one bit.
Yeah, That’s the part I was concerned about. For the most part, the consequences that school does have tend to be pretty… mild, and I swear a lot of kids I knew would rather be suspended. Obviously, I don’t condone adults using violence to punish kids for acting out, but surely there’s a way to bring on proper consequences.
I don’t condone adult violence against children at all.
The Person in Question
Jay said:
I do the same when the right is intellectually dishonest.I’ve yet to see this happen.
Must never have happened then.
I know it didn’t happen. You refused to call out the intellectual dishonesty of Jordan Peterson, for example. When he says that lack of religion causes immorality, he’s factually incorrect to the point of potentially being an outright liar because it’s documented that the less religious a society, the lower its crime rate. That’s just one example of right wing dishonesty that’s come up in this thread that you’ve been silent on. I wouldn’t mind if you didn’t act as though you’re a neutral voice on this. You obviously, at the very least, lean right. Every person reading this thread can tell. That’s fine, I just don’t get why you want there to be a pretense of you being a centrist.
Most of the bullshit I see in this thread is left-leaning bullshit because most of the posters are left-leaning. Naturally, I sound right-leaning compared to most of you. To the far left, anything not bleeding-heart liberalism is “to the right”.
This is why I stopped posting in this thread, Jay.
I don’t condone adult violence against children at all.
I figured you didn’t condone it. Apologies if it came off like I did. 😃
Don’t worry, it didn’t. I just wanted to make sure that I didn’t come across that way because my cavalier attitude toward violence might’ve made it seem that way. There’s absolutely nothing more frightening (to a child anyway) than being physically attacked by an adult. You can’t even try to defend yourself and it’s even worse when it’s a parent that is supposed to be protecting you.
The Person in Question
Good people who frequent this thread on all things politics…
…there’s no reason to limit all politics to a single thread any longer. Feel free to debate different issues in different threads and avoid those you don’t want to involve yourself with.
A quick look at the Index thread for the Culture section - featuring a few threads listed on various political subjects which some of you may wish to continue with - or start afresh on a new political topic.
A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com
A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)
… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.
And fools can be pitied.
FTFY
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Honestly I don’t think so. I have a lower tolerance for stupidity than I do for bullying.
The Person in Question
Good people who frequent this thread on all things politics…
…there’s no reason to limit all politics to a single thread any longer. Feel free to debate different issues in different threads and avoid those you don’t want to involve yourself with.
A quick look at the Index thread for the Culture section - featuring a few threads listed on various political subjects which some of you may wish to continue with - or start afresh on a new political topic.
But what if we want to limit all politics to a single thread?
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
It would get really difficult really fast to try and keep track of all political discussion if it’s split up over many threads, especially if conversations need to be revisited in light of new developments.
The Person in Question
Good people who frequent this thread on all things politics…
…there’s no reason to limit all politics to a single thread any longer. Feel free to debate different issues in different threads and avoid those you don’t want to involve yourself with.
A quick look at the Index thread for the Culture section - featuring a few threads listed on various political subjects which some of you may wish to continue with - or start afresh on a new political topic.
But what if we want to limit all politics to a single thread?
What we want really isn’t relevant.
Plus there needs to be more justification for this subforums existence 😝
I don’t really mind these extra subforums, I just think it’s silly.
Hmm. Yet another Trump supporter banned from the site. I’m starting to notice a pattern here.
I don’t even see who is banned, much less a trump supporter, or a pattern? Who is banned?
I accidentaly reported this post. Please ignore that.
As I was saying,
I was referring to Jetrell Fo, who at the time that I made that post had just been banned for defending Trump. He had been on here since 2004 and he’s not the only one I’ve seen get banned on here. Cant remember the name, but someone was banned for disliking the idea of abortion and he was also a Trump supporter.
Also, ever since I made that post, nobody seems to care about the work I’ve done on here. Does my hard work count for anything, or should I just leave this site?
He wasn’t banned for Trump, he was banned for nonstop manufacturing drama with other users in spite of months worth of warning to stop. SpacedRanger (or something) was banned for posting pictures of bloody abortions, not for being against abortion. Plus, he came back after his temp ban and insulted all the mods.
The Person in Question
I was referring to Jetrell Fo, who at the time that I made that post had just been banned for defending Trump.
Um, no. Check the date on your post and check the date he last posted.
As for the other thing, nothing personal, but I don’t recognize you at all. Since you don’t post in off-topic, I’ll bet that’s the case for most of the other off topic regulars as well.