MalàStrana said:
The fact is that I never said that. That’s why I won’t reply to Jason, because my message is clear enough. But according to the commentary track of TLJ it seems the Leia scene is something Kennedy wanted so much.
(some people here seem to believe on the contrary that a producer just pays the bills on a set…)
You state I should ask Outbound Flight first re his post… of which I am not addressing or taking issue with - before you will answer… - you then later say you will not answer at all because your ‘message is clear enough’? Obviously this is not the case if I’m asking you for explanations…
Though I can certainly see why you would wish to deflect away from your own post.
MalàStrana said:
Just to be sure of something: each time someone makes even a slight criticism of the new SW producer, the reactions seem quite nervous to defend her. So: is it because she is a she ? I mean, do you believe “we” criticize her because she’s a woman ? And do you defend her because she’s a woman and/or because you believe that “anti-Kennedy” are all misogynist ? It’s important because on the Solo thread Jason made it impossible to talk about the movie with the perspective of the way it was produced by Kennedy (next step: we won’t talk about the screenwriter or the director of a movie because it’s not relevant ?You know, directors and screenwriter don’t take every single decision on a movie either…). I think it’s good to clear that.
No. What I said to you in the Solo thread was after this post by you…
MalàStrana said:
snooker said:
Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?
I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.
oojason said:
MalàStrana said:
snooker said:
Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?
I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.
That’s a false equivalency at best; you may not have liked them when Lucas was writing the prequels - and you may not like them with the current writers, but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.
Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.
and when you then replied with…
MalàStrana said:
oojason said:
but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.
Isn’t Disney producing the new movies the same way they produce the Marvel or other series they own ? (real question)
Because it’s totally relevant when talking about the new movies to base any analysis about that fact which makes a clear distinction between the Lucas/independant era and the Disney/corporation era of the Saga. It’s so clear at every single level (good or bad, to each is own point of view on that) that I don’t want to stay blind about that and pretend we can talk about Solo or else the same way we were talking about Ep I to VI. SW was a Saga. It’s now a Franchise. You can love it, that’s fine. But you can’t pretend it’s not true and saying Disney has nothing to do with that.
I said…
oojason said:
MalàStrana said:
oojason said:
but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.
Isn’t Disney producing the new movies the same way they produce the Marvel or other series they own ? (real question)
Because it’s totally relevant when talking about the new movies to base any analysis about that fact which makes a clear distinction between the Lucas/independant era and the Disney/corporation era of the Saga. It’s so clear at every single level (good or bad, to each is own point of view on that) that I don’t want to stay blind about that and pretend we can talk about Solo or else the same way we were talking about Ep I to VI. SW was a Saga. It’s now a Franchise. You can love it, that’s fine. But you can’t pretend it’s not true and saying Disney has nothing to do with that.
And now we’re no longer talking about retcons…
and you somehow managed to miss this part of my last post when quoting it:-
oojason said:
MalàStrana said:
snooker said:
Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?
I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.
Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.
If you’d like to continue a wider conversation on the franchise (and how it compares to Marvel etc) that’s fine, though it won’t be done in here - the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’. So find a relevant thread to do that - or feel free to PM me to carry the conversation on.
Which is not what you have just claimed, yes? No mention of Kennedy at all by yourself - just another of your throwaway threadcrapping shitposts, then followed up a with pretence that you were having a serious conversation…
Your post in here was yet another thread-crapper from you - like yours in the Solo thread linked to above to which you refer, yes? A bit like many of the other occasions you have previously been asked not to, and the multiple warnings given to you for doing just that, followed by your empty claims that you will refrain or reign in the threadcrapping - yet then revert to it after a period of time… once again. That is bad enough.
You then put words into the mouths of others, and basically making false claims - yet again - which is worse. You’ve been told before what would happen if this occurred again, yet here you are.
Enough is finally enough.
Perhaps, upon your return you could create a thread to talk about these perceived production / management / quality issues in which you seemingly and repeatedly love to shitpost in so many other threads on here?