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Lines I suggest be cut are in [brackets]. Lines I wish were never imagined in [[double brackets]].

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(Padme enters. Anakin is tinkering with something. He is obviously very disturbed.)

- I brought you something. Are you hungry?

- The shifter broke. Life seems so much simpler when you're fixing things. I'm good at fixing things. [Always was.] [[ But I couldn't. Why couldn't I save her? I know I could have! ]]

- Sometimes there are things noone can fix. You're not all powerful [Ani]. [I cut "Ani" because of overlap with next line.]

- [[ Well I should be! Someday I will be. I will be the most powerful Jedi ever! I promise you! I will even learn to stop people from dying! ]]

- [ Anakin!?! ]

- It's all Obi-Wan's fault! [[ He's jealous! ]] He's holding me back! [Can insert "Anakin!?!" instead of "He's jealous!"]

- What's wrong Ani? [Or alternatively, replace this line with "Anakin!?!"]

- [[ I ... ]] I killed them. I killed them all. [They're dead. Every single one of them.] [[ And not just the men. But the women. And the children too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I hate them! ]]

(He sits on the floor. Padme crouches beside him.)

- I'm a Jedi! [I know I'm better than this.]

(Padme consoles him.)


I don't think you can cut this scene entirely, as I agree that it's pivotal to show his gradual change. I enjoyed this scene, but I see that it could be "streamlined", for lack of a better word. I think that one of the worst lines here is Amidala's "What's wrong Ani?" Keep in mind that this comes right after his mother dies. It seems a little insensitive and out of place for her.

...there's another scene like that where Yoda says "seeing you again brings warm feelings to my heart." ...and she just ignores him.

How is it that the whole fanbase can see these little oddities about the forced speech, but trained editors and filmmakers can't?

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Crap! such a noob.

Done. But still says i have no messages?
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I saw Batman Begins today - was really, really impressed, a thoroughly enjoyable film - seemed that Liam Neeson had some great dialogue early on - very much in a Jedi stylee - that would have been more than worthy for Episode 1, or for inclusion in other SW films...

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Ah. Batman, Episode 1. Give the Dark Knight a lightsaber and we'll be more willing to accept him into the SW universe than Jar Jar.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Ah. Batman, Episode 1. Give the Dark Knight a lightsaber and we'll be more willing to accept him into the SW universe than Jar Jar.


Maybe when it comes out on DVD you could rotoscope some lightsaber blades and effects on his and his enemies Katanas.
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I was just about to come in here and post that there are alot of lines that can be lifted from Batman and would fit perfectly in your edits. Heck, I even thought that you could use some of them as a voice over during the 'stare far away' scene in the Temple, having Qui Gon speak to Anakin before he makes his final decent.
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*potential Spoilers*


Some of the dialogue beween the Bats and Liam in the final duel on the Tram would work for SW as well.

If I remember it correctly it spoke more about facing your fear, that would work great for an EpIII re-edit, maybe even AOTC.
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I have yet to see Batman.
I was supposed to see it opening night but the people I was going with flaked out.
I had expected there would be something usable within the film.

Here's a question for you guys:
Do any of you know of a film where Liam yells "No!".
I would really like to fix that "Anakin! Anakin! Noooo!" thing in II where they have Frank Oz voice the "Nooooo!" and try to claim its Liam.

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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I have yet to see Batman.
I was supposed to see it opening night but the people I was going with flaked out.
I had expected there would be something usable within the film.

Here's a question for you guys:
Do any of you know of a film where Liam yells "No!".
I would really like to fix that "Anakin! Anakin! Noooo!" thing in II where they have Frank Oz voice the "Nooooo!" and try to claim its Liam.


I believe he had a line such as that (and maybe other usuable ones) in the first Darkman!

(wow- and find a place for the line "TAKE THE F***IN ELEPHANT!!!"... LOL)
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"I would really like to fix that "Anakin! Anakin! Noooo!" thing in II where they have Frank Oz voice the "Nooooo!" and try to claim its Liam."

Did they really do that?

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Maybe you could replace Yoda's "Nooo!" with Vader's from Ep.3

Couldn't be much cheesier, could it?

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I always thought it was a modulated version of Luke's Noooooo from ESB.
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"A small comment about the Spanish dialogue: for me this works well when the characters speak a foreign tongue among themselves, but I would prefer if they switch to English when they address an English-speaking character. Again, as someone else pointed out, the alternation of languages in a conversation in your edits has an unintentional humorous effect, as it suggests that everyone has Babelfish in their ears!"

Then you run across the problem of having a person speak the same in English and Spanish.

"Maybe you could replace Yoda's "Nooo!" with Vader's from Ep.3
Couldn't be much cheesier, could it?"

That's actually an excellent idea. I like the AOTC "Nooooooo". That being said, I'm curious to know whose voice it is,

BTW, for those who are interested:

Another plot device may become apparent in Episodes II and III is the answer to the question of why Qui-Gon Jinn doesn't fade away? Lucas suggest we will learn the answer in an interview:

The [fact that] Qui-Gon [does not disappear] you will discover as time goes on. There is a whole issue around that and the ability to disappear. The key line to understanding this is when Ben Kenobi tells Darth Vader, "If you try to strike me down, I will become... ...more powerful than you can possibly imagine." So, that's a key line. And it'll be explained as we go along. (6/18/99).

Further evidence that this will cleared up comes from an interview with George Lucas in Starlog Magazine Issue 300 (first reported on the Force.net):
STARLOG: And isnt that Qui-Gon Jinns [Liam Neeson] voice we hear during Anakins attack on the Tusken Raiders who killed Shmi Skywalker [Pernilla August]?
LUCAS: Thats a fan thing, isnt it? Its actually more than that. Its a plot point. All I can really say is that youll find out [more] in the next film. If you thought really hard, you would probably be able to figure it out, but it really is a set-up for the next film. Its connected with the whole ability to be brought into and become a part of the Force, but still be able to retain YOUR ability which, up to this point, Anakin couldnt do. We talked to Liam about [recording new dialogue], and we went back and forth [about it]. This [dialogue] is something we already had [from Menace]. Next time will be a little more complicated. (7/20/02).

Even more clarification comes from the Yoda Entry on Star Wars.com:
"While meditating, Yoda had felt a traumatic event befall young Anakin Skywalker. At that very moment, he also heard the voice of Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master slain a decade previous. It was impossible for a Jedi to retain his identity after becoming one with the Force, yet he had heard it. "

The Force.net contributor Darth Fred comments:
So apparently the Jedi didn't know you could come back as a shimmering blue light at the time of Episode II. Interesting. As Lucas has noted, it's a trick Yoda teaches the Jedi which we'll most likely see in Episode III. (7/20/02).

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I've already posted this several time on this board, it relates to TPM & AofC. If you've read it, move a long. I just thought I'd post it if anyone needs some ideas:


1.) As far as Hayden and Jake go, if you realize that they are going to struggle with many lines, you should cut out all unnecessary lines from these two. The less said by Anakin the better. I think a more minimalist style to Anakin's dialogue would allow the character to blend in better with Darth Vader, who was always a calculating and efficient with his word choice (examples: "I find your lack of faith disturbing" to Motti, "Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?" to Lando, and "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" to Jerjerrod). Anakin definitey has way too much dialogue in the prequels. If Anakin were more of a minor character in the Phantom Menace and a man of fewer words, he could have been much more effective. I think Obi-Wan should be the hero of all three prequel trilogies, and the scripts should have been written to reflect this. First scene on the chopping block (one of many): "It's working, it's working!" No kid actor could have delivered this line well.

2.) Instead of putting Anakin in the cockpit of the Naboo starfighter in Phantom Menace, Anakin should have stayed with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon to watch them fight Darth Maul. This change would have removed the utter lack of seriousness for the space portions of the battle and would have furthered Anakin's character development, by having him witness a traumatic event and be exposed to both sides of the Force. I actually expected this to happen in the movie. Lines like "No one can kill a Jedi ... I wish that were so" and "It's a hard life" from Qui-Gon hint that Anakin will be exposed to these challenges within the movie. The scene would not have required any dialogue from Anakin, but merely a few telling glances from Qui-Gon and Maul. Instead he goes off and destroys the Federation battleships and delivers the line "This is podracing". Horrible stuff. Luke's attack on the Death Star was heroic and required maturity, but Anakin's attack on the Federation ships is idiotic and impossibly lucky, not heroic.

3.) Remove the Midi-Chlorians. Qui-Gon's senses should be proof enough that Anakin is powerful, we don't need a blood test. I don't mind the Prophecy, but it would have been much better without the Midi-chlorian explanation. This change to the lore also contradicts the view of the Force shown by Obi-Wan in ANH and Yoda in Empire.

We would much rather have Qui-Gon's explanation of the Force be consistent with the explanations given by Obi-Wan in A New Hope and Yoda in Empire, but with his character's own personal touches. Here are their explanations of the Force (which is not unexplainable magic, as you seem to understand it).

Obi-Wan : "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together."

Obi-Wan's explanation seems to imply that the Force is universal. Midi-chlorians do not create the ability to use the Force, but other living things create it. Any being can use the Force with enough training, focus, and patience. Specifically, your ability to use the Force stems from your mind, not from the number of symbiotic organisms within your body.

Yoda: "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."

Notice how Yoda specifically made the contrast between matter and humanity. Yoda says that humans are more than just the sum of their cells. Explaining one's ability to use the Force through the results of a blood test means that the Force does boil down to 'crude matter'. He also repeats Obi-Wan's assertion that all life creates the Force.

The Midi-Chlorian explanation in Episode I specifically refutes the explanations of the Force given in the original two Star Wars films. In the OT, we could say that Yoda is the wisest and most powerful Jedi because of his faith, dedication, focus, patience, intelligence, etc. In the PT, we say that Yoda and Anakin are the two most powerful Jedi because they were born with the highest number of Midi-chlorians in their body. This is almost a Social Darwinist theory of the Force.

Qui-Gon says that without Midi-chlorians, life would not be possible and we would have no knowledge of the Force. Therefore, all living things possess midi-chlorians, and all living things should have access to the Force

The film would have been superior if the midi-chlorians were never mentioned, though. The Force definitely has changed since Obi-Wan described it in Episode IV (Lucas was trying to make a positive change, but hurt the films instead). In Episode IV, Obi-Wan comments: "When I first met your father, I was amazed at how strongly the Force was with him." In Episode I, this comment seems to have changed to "I was amazed at how high his midi-chlorian count was." The descriptions of the from the original trilogy imply that your ability to use the Force is limited only by the strength of your mind and will. Yoda makes it abundantly clear that NO PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS can be placed on the Force, including a Midi-chlorian count. In the PT, this is no longer the case.

Lucas has treated his audience like complete idiots throughout the prequels. The audience understands exactly what Lucas is TRYING to do with the Midi-chlorians (all too well), but it does not have the desired effect. This is a clear-cut example of one of the main problems with the PT: Lucas explaining the story through expository dialogue instead of demonstrating things through action. (ie- Lucas tells us Anakin is strong with the Force through prolonged dialogue, while Luke demonstrates his strength through actions; Anakin and Padme tell us their feelings in words, while Han and Leia demonstrate their feelings through actions and expressions; etc.) These examples disrespect the intelligence of the audience rather than overestimate it.

To put things this way: which explanation of the Force do you prefer? A New Hope, Empire, or Phantom Menace?

To put things another way: no one would ever complain about Yoda's sublime description of the Force in Empire, but very many people complain about Qui-Gon's explanation to Anakin. There is a definite reason why.

Of course, that's forgetting that Darth Vader redeemed himself, killed the Emperor and returned to Anakin Skywalker when Luke lifted his helmet. This naturally led to the poignant scene at the end of ROTJ where the newly-redeemed Anakin takes his rightful place with the other Jedi.

This recent change is illogical, lame, and obviously done so that the crappy Lucas Prequels can insert even more control over the superior OT. Lucas continually tries to get the Prequel scenes and story into the OT, like some ugly guy hanging out with a pretty boy, hoping some of the charm will rub off.

4.) Shorten the podrace sequence, specifically by removing the pre-race introductions, the awful broadcasters, and Jar-Jar's cheering and by not having Anakin's podracer stall out at the beginning of the race. I cringe every time I watch the beginning of the Podrace. The final lap is decent and is all that was required to make the race seem dramatic and dangerous. The first two laps remove the tension. I also think Jabba should be more menacing in this scene, perhaps by having him laugh every time a racer dies.

5.) I am not a pure Jar-Jar hater like most people. I do hate scenes like when the creature farts at him on Tatooine, and other cheap attempts at humor. I actually think the character had some potential, and not all of his scenes were bad, but many of them were. I actually think the dialogue between Jar-Jar and Padme on Coruscant is excellent, but Jar-Jar's actions in the Battle of Naboo do not like up to his promise of those key lines "Gungans get pasted too, eh? ... Wesa no dying without a fight. Wesa got grand army." I actually love these lines, but they emphasized a change and maturation in Jar-Jar that never came to be. Much like Anakin in the space battle, Jar-Jar is not heroic, he is a stupid coward who gets lucky. We should have seen Jar-Jar's character develop over the course of the film, from initially being a clumsy kid and then learning from the example set by the Jedi and becoming a proud Gungan warrior once the time of crisis puts his people in danger. Jar-Jar should have learned from the Jedi over the course of his travels (specifically, have Qui-Gon give him a peice of advice about fighting droids that he teaches the Gungans later on) and then come back a changed person. We should have seen him rescuing Captain Tarpals in the battle (not vice-versa), and then have him be named general, and make it a bittersweet occasion as he learns he is relieved of his life debt. It also would have been nice to have Jar-Jar demonstrate a fraction of the loyalty to Qui-Gon that Chewie shows towards Han with his life debt. Jar-Jar should have been visibly upset any time he was separated from Qui-Gon, to demonstrate his basic goodness underneath the clumsiness and immaturity, and done some sort of mourning at the funeral (like Chewie's at the Carbonite Chamber).

6.) At least a few Gungans should die in the Battle of Naboo (Hell, even an Ewok died in ROTJ). When Sidious says "Wipe them out, all of them," the droids should have obeyed this command. It actually bothers me when the droids start taking the Gungans prisoner. The droid control ship should go down during the heat of battle, not after the Gungan surrender.

7.) Either re-do the voices of the battle droids with a deeper voice, or have them use no voice at all. The destroyer droids were cooler and more menacing because they did not speak. The same could have been done for the battle droids.

8.) Another main problem I have with the Phantom Menace is the contrived plot device of the leaking hyperdrive. When the pilot rushes to deliver the line "the hyperdrive is leaking" just seconds after passing the blockade it feels very contrived, as does Obi-Wan's super quick reaction to the problem "Here, Tatooine". The hyperdrive problem was already done to death in Empire, and it should not have been used again. The writers could have found some other way for the characters to be stranded on Tatooine. It could have been as simple as saying that the Trade Federation would recognize their ship and destroy it at Coruscant, so that the characters need to buy a new ship. I think the hyperdrive problem is a glaring, sloppy error to the film.

9.) C-3P0 should not have been created by Anakin. His dialogue in TPM is also horrendous at times (ie- repeated lines: "That Jar-Jar creature is quite unusual"). C-3P0 would have worked better as a servant of the Naboo, or as a translator in the Senate, and R2-D2 would have worked better as Anakin's creation. R2-D2 is the astrodroid with spunk, after all.

10) HAYDEN'S ACTING: Hayden's horrible portrayal was heightened to obviousness by two factors; bad scripting and bad directing. George Lucas has absolutely no idea how to write or play psychology. The character he created in a young Anakin Skywalker was comparible to a whiney 15-year-old pitching a fit when his father won't let him have the car for the weekend despite being underage as well as ignorant. There was nothing menacing, nothing intimidating, nothing remotely scary in the Anakin he was before Darth Vader. There's not even a shadow of Darth Vader in him. Darth Vader's hatred, all of his anger, would have to have been completely bottled up within him before he became the tyranical war leader. It would have been so subsided that even he didn't know it was there. He would struggle with it, but not know why. Then Darth Sideous, seeing the young man's tallent and potential, would draw that anger out of him and turn him toward the darkside. Recall how horrible Mark Hammil's acting was? However, it was overshadowed by good characterization. Hammil had a lot of anger he was dealing with in regards to an absent father. The character was just written better. Anakin's anger was more Freudian than that with the loss of his mother. However, no where has Anakin ever displayed the type of emotion worthy of being considered a leader. He makes poor childish decisions on a whim without thinking, lashing out without temprament. A leader must be wiser than that. Palpatine shouldn't have seen any potential in such a brat, and neither should have princess Amidala. How can a guy who's acted like that all movie long suddenly have someone confess love to him? "Oh Anakin... I love the way you act like such a baby." Hardly mature. Yes, Hayden's acting was bad. But the worst thing about the whole Star Wars series is that the character of Anakin Skywalker was doomed from the beginning.

11) ANAKIN'S VIRGIN BIRTH: I don't know if Lucas is Catholic or what, but this messianic miraculous conception just doesn't work. Midocholoreans? Give me a break! Trying to explain a religious magical phenonmenon as the Jedi are in scientific means just tore down the whole science fiction fantasy. There were plenty of ways to decipher this young kid's potential without a blood sample. To say that to become a Jedi you must have a high midocholrean count is the equivalent to saying you can only get into heaven if you have quadruple-helix DNA. True, not everyone can be a Jedi, but why exercise that in physical limitations? Just look at Yoda! To try and bolster Anakin's importance by granting him a virgin birth mocks the inteligence of the viewers.

12) INSULTING THE INTELIGENCE OF HIS FANS: This was done in a number of ways, most of which involving scripting. For example: When R2-D2 saves the day and the entire ship upon his first appearance in Episode I, the guard announces his name with slow clarity, "ARE...TOO...DEE...TOO..." ...Come on, how many other R2 units can we name in the Star Wars series? Everyone KNEW that was R2-D2. We're not frickin' stupid, alright? Instances of this nature happened a number of times... "It's blowing up from the inside! We didn't hit it!" No crap?! And the insulting dialogue continued with 3PO's one-liners all the way through Episode II.

13) EWAN MAGREGOR'S INABILITY TO SHINE: My dad made an interesting point about Episodes IV, V, and VI... The star was Harrison Ford. Ford made that series. His character as Han Solo is unmistakably the most entertaining. Not to mention the pair he made with Chewbacca. Dad said that the prequels are lacking a staring character of his caliber. I rather think that Ewan Magregor can be that star. I think he has the potential to be as I've considered him an unbelievable actor. However, through Lucas's poor directing and horrid script, he doesn't know how to draw the strengths out of his cast. He hobbles on the broken leg forgetting that he can use crutches for that.

14) MISSING THE POTENTIAL: I thought that the pod race in Episode I was the coolest thing since Ben Hur. Not to mention, it spawned the best racing video game I've ever played. I think that could have been a monumental scene in movie-making history. However, the special effects that created it were bogged down by a movie that was 87% special effects, including a huge stupid pointless battle toward the end between the droids and Gungans that was nothing but special effects - and not very entertaining at that. It's like a great shot of the best liquor on earth watered down by about eight gallons of water. The creation of the clone army was another storyline of strong potential, overshadowed by the Jango Fett sub-plot. I don't know who that dork was playing Jango, but it looked like Lucas's sad attempt at incorporating racial diversity in his cast. Boba was just annoying. The creating-a-clone-army-but-wanted-one-for-himself-to-be-his-son was weak. Why couldn't he just have a son? I think one of the attractive things that fans had toward Boba Fett was the mystery behind the character. Lucas tried to capitalize on something that wasn't broken in the first place, and told more than we needed or should have known behind Boba Fett's past.

15) STUPID POINTLESS BATTLE SCENES: I've already mentioned the one between the Gungans and the Droids. Although I hate to admit it, as cool as it was, the lightsaber battle between Count Duku and Yoda was pretty pointless - especially preceded by the line, "This confrontation cannot be determined by our use of the force, but our skills with a light saber." Please. The battle between the clones and the droids, though necessary, wasn't very well done. And extremely overkill was the battle between the Jedi and... everyone. The worst confrontation in the series thus far was the Roman Colloseum like adaptation of Anakin, Obi Wan, and Padme being fed to the "lions". It was almost like watching an episode of the old Batman and Robin - the villains put the heroes up in these illustrious traps for their own amusement but Batman always has some gadget to get them out of peril. Better than Batman, these are Jedi! Kill them while you have the chance! Don't be so dramatic!

I could write a whole book of how the Star Wars series has become a load of crap (although, I did enjoy RotS). We're stuck in a sequel/prequel era where all original ideas have gone by the wayside and movie companies milk franchises for all they're worth. The true art of storytelling, and rather filmaking as an "art" altogether, is no longer relevant. Unfortunately, we take what we can get. All the studios want to see is the money. The numbers speak louder than a whole hill of criticism. The only way to plead with our film companies of making something that can actually be called "good" is to stop seeing what can only be referred to as "bad."
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I just saw the new Batman movie, and I have to say it has something that I think George Lucas should have seen before making his prequels: LACK OF CG effects. 98% percent of the special effects in that movie were done with good old-fashioned models (ex. exploding train, etc.) Yet the movie was absolutely fantastic, proving once again that you don't need fancy CG effects to make a damn good movie.

To MagnoliaFan or anyone else who plans to make an edit of ROTS: Perhaps Vader's "Nooo!" should be replaced with someone screaming "Porque!!!!!!"

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Please help me! I'm a confused newbie who just wants to watch some BitTorrents on his computer. I just downloaded XviD and have NO CLUE as to how to make it work (we're talkin' EXTREME newbie here). Does anyone know of like a how-to guide on how to use XviD to play .torrent files on Windows Media Player? I'll worry about all the DVD ripping stuff later. Any assisstance would be greatly appreciated!

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Hi Nanner Split - the info you require may well be in the 'torrents thread' in the Preservation & Fan Edits forum.

I don't have an answer to help you play your torrents - sorry m8.

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the faq on the torrent site should have all the info you need.

the quick and dirty of it is you need a bittorrent client (i use bittornado). the .torrent file is just a pointer file, you open that with the client and it will download the file.

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Yeah, well they sure could have used some CGI at the end of the film. When they are standing outside of Wayne Manor, watch the background. Gotham is no where to be seen. What, is it an hour trip into the city for Batman?
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I generally thought that Wayne Manor was pretty far removed from the rest of Gotham City. It gave Bruce some much-needed privacy. I haven't seen this particular movie yet, though, so if Wayne Manor is now supposed to be right next to the urban areas, forgive me.

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Yeah, well they sure could have used some CGI at the end of the film. When they are standing outside of Wayne Manor, watch the background. Gotham is no where to be seen. What, is it an hour trip into the city for Batman?


Well, he did have to drive a hell of a long time to get home, dontcha think?

By the way, thanks for the BitTorrent help, I am now under way! Now I just have to route BitTornado through my firewall.

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Wayne Manor is on top of a hill. You should atleast be able to see Gotham, a pseudo-NYC somewhere in the distance to make it plausible for him to get there in a moderate amount of time. Katie Holmes would have been dead if it was as far as that establishing shot would have made it.
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