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What if IX makes her the Chosen One then ? (but it would go against the “socialist” view of the movie about the Force which belongs to everyone, no-one included). If you think about it, Anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi of the Order but thanks to Obi-Wan restraints he never got too much powerful (TPM and then AOTC deal with that actually) and then he grown mistrust against the Order (TCW/ROTS deal with that as well). Imagine if he had stayed alone a a shitty planet, would he have become like Rey, very powerful in a matter of days ? (not sure) I agree about Rey nonetheless, it has always been my main criticism against TFA (not even bringing the “mary sue” thing; had Rey been a guy mastering so many things on her own in just a few hours, I would have thought the same about the character).

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MalàStrana said:

What if IX makes her the Chosen One then ? (but it would go against the “socialist” view of the movie about the Force which belongs to everyone, no-one included). If you think about it, Anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi of the Order but thanks to Obi-Wan restraints he never got too much powerful (TPM and then AOTC deal with that actually) while growing mistrust against the Order (TCW/ROTS deal with that as well). Imagine if he had stayed alone a a shitty planet, would he have become like Rey, very powerful in a matter of days ?
But I agree about Rey nonetheless, I has always been my main criticism against TFA.

Yeah, but even Anakin needed years of training to become a Jedi. He could see things before they happen, which was presented as a trait of someone with a lot of Force potential, but to use Jedi mind tricks, levitation, and to be proficient with a lightsaber required a lot of effort.

This scene in TESB clashes with the final scenes of TLJ in a major way:

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Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

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rodger that, fixed

Assimilate THIS!

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oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

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JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

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What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? at the end of a line questioning what someone saying ’ the n-word’ have to do with anything. Really?

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I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

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JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Let’s try not to go down this path in this thread again…

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oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? Really?

I’m not arguing his opinion isn’t absolutely worthless. I’m just asking why would him saying the n-word make his opinion more worthless? One of my best friends is racist towards hispanic people, but I’m not going to start throwing his opinions out the door on other matters regardless of how stupid his feelings are on one matter.

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DrDre said:

MalàStrana said:

What if IX makes her the Chosen One then ? (but it would go against the “socialist” view of the movie about the Force which belongs to everyone, no-one included). If you think about it, Anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi of the Order but thanks to Obi-Wan restraints he never got too much powerful (TPM and then AOTC deal with that actually) while growing mistrust against the Order (TCW/ROTS deal with that as well). Imagine if he had stayed alone a a shitty planet, would he have become like Rey, very powerful in a matter of days ?
But I agree about Rey nonetheless, I has always been my main criticism against TFA.

Yeah, but even Anakin needed years of training to become a Jedi. He could see things before they happen, which was presented as a trait of someone with a lot of Force potential, but to use Jedi mind tricks, levitation, and to be proficient with a lightsaber required a lot of effort.

This scene in TESB clashes with the final scenes of TLJ in a major way:

Again, these are ‘perceived continuity clashes’ that you’re pulling out simply to try and discredit the new movies.

Now that you’re using the PT here’s one for you - why didn’t Ben take Luke to be trained by Yoda at a much younger age?

We know he has Skywalker blood - the Force is biological right? We know in ESB that Yoda thinks Luke should have been trained far younger. Why did Kenobi leave it so long?

There is no good answer - and nit picking and holding these new films to it is just a double standard.

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I was really disappointed with Rey.

In TFA, she was likable, but really too powerful to be a compelling character. I was hoping RJ would somehow rectify this, but after watching I felt that she was again massively underserved as a character.

Just like TFA, she doesn’t really struggle or grow in this movie.
What does she learn? What inner challenges does she face during the course of the movie? What must she overcome at the end of the movie, setting up her character for the 3rd act in the trilogy? Nothing…

They briefly touch on a few aspects of her character but there is no focus to any of it, and thus we don’t know anything else about her that we didn’t know halfway through TFA, other than she is still a badass with a lightsaber.
Since Luke doesn’t serve as a mentor, she doesn’t actually go through any sort of training. She briefly tells Luke that she is afraid of what’s inside her, but that doesn’t come up again. They touch on her fears surrounding her identity, parents, and abandonment on Jakku, but that’s also not a main theme of the movie and doesn’t lead anywhere.

She spends most of her time on the island trying to get through to Luke and Kylo, but very little time learning the ways of the force and facing her inner-demons. Maybe if RJ hadn’t included a bunch of silly nonsense like the meaningless, Finn-Rose subplot, he could have spent more time actually developing the main character and focusing on the main theme of the movie.

To Rian’s defense, though, he inherited the whole “depressed-hermit-Luke” scenario from TFA, so it is kind of hard to have Luke be the wise teacher, if he is in such a dark place that it caused him to run away from everything. That’s one of the main reasons I disagree with sending Luke to that island in the first place. I think it would have worked much better to just go ahead and make Luke the mentor in TFA.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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Collipso said:

I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

Sure, but even before the whole concept of midi-chlorians in 1977 George Lucas wrote:

“The Force is really a way of seeing; it’s a way of being with life. It really has nothing to do with weapons. The Force gives you the power to have extra-sensory perception and to be able to see things and hear things, read minds and levitate things. It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different. The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

This has been the basis for the entire OT. Anyone can do it, but it’s not something you just get. You have to learn many years. This is how it was depicted with Luke in the OT, who went from a twenty year old youngster learning a few basics from Obi-Wan to becoming a full Jedi over the period of five years. This is also how it was depicted in the PT, despite midi-chlorians, where there were academies to train young students. The ST ignores all this, by having Rey just being able to perform amazing feats in a matter of days. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

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DrDre said:

Collipso said:

I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

Sure, but even before the whole concept of midi-chlorians in 1977 George Lucas wrote:

“The Force is really a way of seeing; it’s a way of being with life. It really has nothing to do with weapons. The Force gives you the power to have extra-sensory perception and to be able to see things and hear things, read minds and levitate things. It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different. The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

This has been the basis for the entire OT. Anyone can do it, but it’s not something you just get. You have to learn many years. This is how it was depicted with Luke in the OT, who went from a twenty year old youngster learning a few basics from Obi-Wan to becoming a full Jedi over the period of five years. This is also how it was depicted in the PT, despite midi-chlorians, where there were academies to train young students. The ST ignores all this, by having Rey just being able to perform amazing feats in a matter of days. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

I’d also like to just generally say that regardless of how the Force does or does not work, it’s infinitely more satisfying to see someone work towards bettering themselves/a goal instead of just being able to achieve it. Comparing the training sequences in ESB to Rey’s ability to use the Force fairly well without training and I think it’d be easier to understand my point.

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What happens with Rey is different to the Younglings and the traditional Jedi training.

The Force Awakens in her. ‘Awakens’ as a descriptor is used again in TLJ too.

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Matt.F said:

DrDre said:

MalàStrana said:

What if IX makes her the Chosen One then ? (but it would go against the “socialist” view of the movie about the Force which belongs to everyone, no-one included). If you think about it, Anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi of the Order but thanks to Obi-Wan restraints he never got too much powerful (TPM and then AOTC deal with that actually) while growing mistrust against the Order (TCW/ROTS deal with that as well). Imagine if he had stayed alone a a shitty planet, would he have become like Rey, very powerful in a matter of days ?
But I agree about Rey nonetheless, I has always been my main criticism against TFA.

Yeah, but even Anakin needed years of training to become a Jedi. He could see things before they happen, which was presented as a trait of someone with a lot of Force potential, but to use Jedi mind tricks, levitation, and to be proficient with a lightsaber required a lot of effort.

This scene in TESB clashes with the final scenes of TLJ in a major way:

Again, these are ‘perceived continuity clashes’ that you’re pulling out simply to try and discredit the new movies.

Now that you’re using the PT here’s one for you - why didn’t Ben take Luke to be trained by Yoda at a much younger age?

We know he has Skywalker blood - the Force is biological right? We know in ESB that Yoda thinks Luke should have been trained far younger. Why did Kenobi leave it so long?

There is no good answer - and nit picking and holding these new films to such a pedantic standard is just a double standard.

There’s nothing pedantic about it. I repeat George Lucas wrote in 1977:

“The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

The OT shows Luke taking many years to learn to control it. The PT does the same. Luke’s lack of control is one of the important story threads in TESB. Rey learns this stuff in days. That’s not a minor nitpick. It’s a huge inconsistency.

If you want an in-universe answers for why Obi-Wan didn’t train Luke at a younger age:

  1. During the early days of the Empire the Jedi were still being actively hunted. It was too dangerous. How do you hide a young kid using the Force in that atmosphere?
  2. The Rebellion’s first victory, when they stole the Death Star plans, was the spark that lit the fire in the OT. Before that Luke would have to face off the Empire alone with his laser sword. That would have been a suicide mission.
  3. Luke’s uncle Owen wasn’t a fan of old Ben, as is evident in ANH, and actively prevented Luke from interacting with that crazy old wizard.

Either way, I’ve criticized instances where the PT is inconsistent with the OT also, so using the PT inconsistencies as a defense for ST inconsistencies doesn’t fly with me. The inconsistencies of the PT were one of the many reasons why they were widely criticized. So, to now accept the same issues in the ST and carry on as if nothing’s wrong, that would really be having double standards in my book.

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DrDre said:

Collipso said:

I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

Sure, but even before the whole concept of midi-chlorians in 1977 George Lucas wrote:

“The Force is really a way of seeing; it’s a way of being with life. It really has nothing to do with weapons. The Force gives you the power to have extra-sensory perception and to be able to see things and hear things, read minds and levitate things. It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different. The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

This has been the basis for the entire OT. Anyone can do it, but it’s not something you just get. You have to learn many years. This is how it was depicted with Luke in the OT, who went from a twenty year old youngster learning a few basics from Obi-Wan to becoming a full Jedi over the period of five years. This is also how it was depicted in the PT, despite midi-chlorians, where there were academies to train young students. The ST ignores all this, by having Rey just being able to perform amazing feats in a matter of days. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

Certainly, I totally agree with you. Theme wise though, I think it was emphasized in this movie the same way it was in the OT, and I quite liked that.

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JediExile said:

oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? Really?

I’m not arguing his opinion isn’t absolutely worthless. I’m just asking why would him saying the n-word make his opinion more worthless? One of my best friends is racist towards hispanic people, but I’m not going to start throwing his opinions out the door on other matters regardless of how stupid his feelings are on one matter.

Did you click on the links and read them? Likely not - as if you did you’d realise it’s not just ‘the n-word’, is it? And also what the gist of the Guardian article is about too, yes?

And I didn’t say anything about using ‘the n-word’ making his opinion more worthless. You seemingly assumed that.

Also, again, in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

 

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Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

Sure, but even before the whole concept of midi-chlorians in 1977 George Lucas wrote:

“The Force is really a way of seeing; it’s a way of being with life. It really has nothing to do with weapons. The Force gives you the power to have extra-sensory perception and to be able to see things and hear things, read minds and levitate things. It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different. The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

This has been the basis for the entire OT. Anyone can do it, but it’s not something you just get. You have to learn many years. This is how it was depicted with Luke in the OT, who went from a twenty year old youngster learning a few basics from Obi-Wan to becoming a full Jedi over the period of five years. This is also how it was depicted in the PT, despite midi-chlorians, where there were academies to train young students. The ST ignores all this, by having Rey just being able to perform amazing feats in a matter of days. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

Certainly, I totally agree with you. Theme wise though, I think it was emphasized in this movie the same way it was in the OT, and I quite liked that.

Sure, I prefer the idea of Force potential not being linked to your genetic makeup.

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DrDre said:

Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

I liked how Rey’s parents are nobodies. It was one of the few “twists” I liked in execution and idea. I honestly wouldn’t believe if they said that she had been trained as a child or a toddler and learned how to do mind tricks then, so I always considered her and this excuse way too unrealistic. She was always unbelievable, but very charismatic, which makes me care for her. I really liked how she isn’t connected to anyone, and the theme of the movie that anyone could be a hero and powerful with the force. They pulled that from The Empire Strikes Back, and it was refreshing. One of the things I really didn’t like about the prequels was how the whole “one must be dedicated to the force in order to connect and be strong with it” was pretty much reduced to “who won the biological lottery”. This movie turned that around. So that was pretty cool.

Sure, but even before the whole concept of midi-chlorians in 1977 George Lucas wrote:

“The Force is really a way of seeing; it’s a way of being with life. It really has nothing to do with weapons. The Force gives you the power to have extra-sensory perception and to be able to see things and hear things, read minds and levitate things. It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different. The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it. But you would have to do it on your own.”

This has been the basis for the entire OT. Anyone can do it, but it’s not something you just get. You have to learn many years. This is how it was depicted with Luke in the OT, who went from a twenty year old youngster learning a few basics from Obi-Wan to becoming a full Jedi over the period of five years. This is also how it was depicted in the PT, despite midi-chlorians, where there were academies to train young students. The ST ignores all this, by having Rey just being able to perform amazing feats in a matter of days. It just doesn’t sit right with me.

Certainly, I totally agree with you. Theme wise though, I think it was emphasized in this movie the same way it was in the OT, and I quite liked that.

Sure, I prefer the idea of Force potential not being linked to your genetic makeup.

Too bad they did that with a character that at this point barely makes any sense.

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oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? Really?

I’m not arguing his opinion isn’t absolutely worthless. I’m just asking why would him saying the n-word make his opinion more worthless? One of my best friends is racist towards hispanic people, but I’m not going to start throwing his opinions out the door on other matters regardless of how stupid his feelings are on one matter.

Did you click on the links and read them? Likely not - as if you did you’d realise it’s not just ‘the n-word’, is it? And also what the gist of the Guardian article is about too, yes?

And I didn’t say anything about using ‘the n-word’ making his opinion more worthless. You seemingly assumed that.

Also, again, in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

 

Anyway, back on topic…

As a person who watches pewdiepie from time to time (I’m so sorry), I have seen the “controversial videos”. . His first controversy consisted of “news” cherry picking jokes, taking them out of context and editing them in such a way that it made him look back. The original videos were fine, no racism there.
His second controversy was that he shouted “oh what a f_____g n____r” at a bot (not at a person, but a video game character), he quickly changed it to “oh what an a_____e”. When he realized what he said he started to apologize then he started to laugh with an “oh shit I hope nobody noticed that” look.
It was stupid, childish and absolutely wrong, but his explanation made perfect sense - he wanted to be offensive for comedic purposes, so he said the first offensive word which came to his mind. Why was THAT word the first which came to his mind, that’s the a good question though.

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I too like that Reys parents are random people, one of the few things I liked.

Assimilate THIS!

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pittrek said:

oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? Really?

I’m not arguing his opinion isn’t absolutely worthless. I’m just asking why would him saying the n-word make his opinion more worthless? One of my best friends is racist towards hispanic people, but I’m not going to start throwing his opinions out the door on other matters regardless of how stupid his feelings are on one matter.

Did you click on the links and read them? Likely not - as if you did you’d realise it’s not just ‘the n-word’, is it? And also what the gist of the Guardian article is about too, yes?

And I didn’t say anything about using ‘the n-word’ making his opinion more worthless. You seemingly assumed that.

Also, again, in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

 

Anyway, back on topic…

As a person who watches pewdiepie from time to time (I’m so sorry), I have seen the “controversial videos”. . His first controversy consisted of “news” cherry picking jokes, taking them out of context and editing them in such a way that it made him look back. The original videos were fine, no racism there.
His second controversy was that he shouted “oh what a f_____g n____r” at a bot (not at a person, but a video game character), he quickly changed it to “oh what an a_____e”. When he realized what he said he started to apologize then he started to laugh with an “oh shit I hope nobody noticed that” look.
It was stupid, childish and absolutely wrong, but his explanation made perfect sense - he wanted to be offensive for comedic purposes, so he said the first offensive word which came to his mind. Why was THAT word the first which came to his mind, that’s the a good question though.

Because online games are full of those kind of stuff, it can get into your head subconsciously and slip the same way.
Anyway back on topic 😃

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oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

JediExile said:

oojason said:

Nandi said:

https://youtu.be/Ymt4lpzv62g

PewDiePie? Really?

The lad who did this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

and in the first line of his video you linked to says, after mocking the hype re the new Star Wars film, ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’.
 

Nandi, if you’re going to post a video or review here etc then add some info and context to it - it’ll help members make a decision as to whether they wish to click on it before doing so.

Do not just post a link.

What does him saying the n-word have to do with anything lol

Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?

Also in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

‘lol’? Really?

I’m not arguing his opinion isn’t absolutely worthless. I’m just asking why would him saying the n-word make his opinion more worthless? One of my best friends is racist towards hispanic people, but I’m not going to start throwing his opinions out the door on other matters regardless of how stupid his feelings are on one matter.

Did you click on the links and read them? Likely not - as if you did you’d realise it’s not just ‘the n-word’, is it? And also what the gist of the Guardian article is about too, yes?

And I didn’t say anything about using ‘the n-word’ making his opinion more worthless. You seemingly assumed that.

Also, again, in the context of ‘I’m not that big of a Star Wars fan’ too.

 

Anyway, back on topic…

I read the Guardian link which to my knowledge doesn’t talk about anything else aside from his usage of the n-word during a livestream. And while you didn’t mention anything about his previous actions making his opinion more worthless in your original reply (merely assumed as I didn’t understand the point of the post), it is something you actually did say in your reply to me unless “Given the lad’s history why shouldn’t it be said his opinion may not hold much weight?” means something else which then I stand corrected.
I just don’t understand why you’re criticizing his decision to post a Star Wars The Last Jedi review in a Star Wars The Last Jedi review thread. I’m about halfway through the review and I really don’t see anything harmful about this review so I’m not sure why context would be needed.

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Matt.F said:

DrDre said:

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What if IX makes her the Chosen One then ? (but it would go against the “socialist” view of the movie about the Force which belongs to everyone, no-one included). If you think about it, Anakin was one of the most powerful Jedi of the Order but thanks to Obi-Wan restraints he never got too much powerful (TPM and then AOTC deal with that actually) while growing mistrust against the Order (TCW/ROTS deal with that as well). Imagine if he had stayed alone a a shitty planet, would he have become like Rey, very powerful in a matter of days ?
But I agree about Rey nonetheless, I has always been my main criticism against TFA.

Yeah, but even Anakin needed years of training to become a Jedi. He could see things before they happen, which was presented as a trait of someone with a lot of Force potential, but to use Jedi mind tricks, levitation, and to be proficient with a lightsaber required a lot of effort.

This scene in TESB clashes with the final scenes of TLJ in a major way:

Again, these are ‘perceived continuity clashes’ that you’re pulling out simply to try and discredit the new movies.

Now that you’re using the PT here’s one for you - why didn’t Ben take Luke to be trained by Yoda at a much younger age?

We know he has Skywalker blood - the Force is biological right? We know in ESB that Yoda thinks Luke should have been trained far younger. Why did Kenobi leave it so long?

Why do people assume that because Yoda says “he is too old to begin the training” in ESB that Yoda really meant it? Why can it not just be Yoda’s way of trying to get Luke to show his resolve and a willingness to take it seriously?

Luke and Leia are the only two currently-known Force-Sensitives remotely capable of taking down Vader and the Emperor. Yoda knows this. I don’t see Yoda legitimately giving up on Luke so easily.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.