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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The 2004 Lowry master that was made for the dvd release (and re-used with some additional alterations for the 2011 blu-ray) was done at 1080p.

However, we know that there was a fresh 4k scan/master that was done by Reliance Media Works and completed in 2014. Gareth Edwards and John Knoll actually watched the 4k master of ANH before heading into pre-production on Rogue One.

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LukeShoots1st said:

hi im new here and im hoping someone can point me in the direction of the cover art work for the despecialized editions, i hope this doesnt breach any rules,thanks in advance

Hi and welcome to the site.

There is a ‘DVD Covers, Disc Labels, and Other Fan Artwork’ section of the site, here:-

http://originaltrilogy.com/discussion/DVD-Covers-Disc-Labels-and-Other-Fan-Artwork/id/20

in which you’ll find various cover sets for the Despecialized Editions (as well as other releases) - and there is also an Index Thread at the top of that section - linking to a fair few of the differing cover sets.

There are also links to Harmy’s Despecialized threads - which also contain cover art too.

Please take the time to have a look around the site - hopefully you’ll find more things of interest…

Good luck 😃

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Go to the DVD/BR cover artwork section of the forum. Main page, below the preservation and fan edit sections.

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Fang Zei said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The 2004 Lowry master that was made for the dvd release (and re-used with some additional alterations for the 2011 blu-ray) was done at 1080p.

However, we know that there was a fresh 4k scan/master that was done by Reliance Media Works and completed in 2014. Gareth Edwards and John Knoll actually watched the 4k master of ANH before heading into pre-production on Rogue One.

I’m pretty sure that 4K scan was for the special edition. I’m pretty sure that was revealed a short while ago I remember reading.

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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

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Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

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Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.

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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.

At least in the case of the portions that were used for the special edition, yeah. Nobody outside of Lucasfilm has seen the pieces that were removed, but those are supposedly in horrendous condition.

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Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.

At least in the case of the portions that were used for the special edition, yeah. Nobody outside of Lucasfilm has seen the pieces that were removed, but those are supposedly in horrendous condition.

I’m hoping that in the early 90’s that Lucas cleaned and preserved the entire film negatives. Even the stuff that was cutout and replaced with new CGI outerspace sequences, etc. I’m betting that the whole thing was probably run through the preservation process. As I believe one of the first steps they did was clean the original negative, etc. before they even started doing the CGI stuff. So I’d imagine the preservation process was the first thing completed.

One thing I liked on the later special editions. Was I forget which one it was. But it was an outerspace sequence where two ships are flying in the distance. And in the 80’s VHS, you could see a square box around each ship as it’s flying in space. I remember always hating that sequence in the 80’s. I believe those were from the square masks they’d put behind the ships sometimes when filming the ships.

But I really liked with the later special editions, they removed those square box things.

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Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.

At least in the case of the portions that were used for the special edition, yeah. Nobody outside of Lucasfilm has seen the pieces that were removed, but those are supposedly in horrendous condition.

This is why the most reliable way to restore the OUT may be to simply go to the separation masters. Scanning them in and recombining them won’t have quite the same level of detail as the o-neg, but it would still be “close enough” in my book.

The o-neg, meanwhile, appears to also have been in good enough shape for George to re-scan it nearly a decade after the Lowry job. Granted, he only needed it to look the way he wanted.

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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.

The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?

I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.

The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.

Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.

At least in the case of the portions that were used for the special edition, yeah. Nobody outside of Lucasfilm has seen the pieces that were removed, but those are supposedly in horrendous condition.

I’m hoping that in the early 90’s that Lucas cleaned and preserved the entire film negatives. Even the stuff that was cutout and replaced with new CGI outerspace sequences, etc. I’m betting that the whole thing was probably run through the preservation process. As I believe one of the first steps they did was clean the original negative, etc. before they even started doing the CGI stuff. So I’d imagine the preservation process was the first thing completed.

One thing I liked on the later special editions. Was I forget which one it was. But it was an outerspace sequence where two ships are flying in the distance. And in the 80’s VHS, you could see a square box around each ship as it’s flying in space. I remember always hating that sequence in the 80’s. I believe those were from the square masks they’d put behind the ships sometimes when filming the ships.

But I really liked with the later special editions, they removed those square box things.

Just an FYI theyre called garbage mattes.

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I’m really hoping with Disney buying 20th Century Fox, that it may motivate them to release the unaltered versions since they get to control 100% of it. Also hopefully they’ll leave in the Fox Fanfare as well.

I don’t know. Maybe the people in charge of Lucasfilm never really cared about the unaltered versions? If I was in charge, I’d be making it a priority to have gotten them released.

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Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The original negatives were cleaned up optically back in 1995(ish). Then they scanned the negs in 1080p, replaced some of the original effects with CGI effects and printed the new scenes again to 35mm film. A combination of the original negatives and the new scenes was created and printed again as “special edition negatives”. These special edition negatives were later scanned again in 1080p and digitally color “corrected”, the color “corrected” scans were then shipped to the external company whose name I can’t remember right now, who cleaned it up (mainly degrained it). Lucasfilm then did more changes to the cleaned up scans (e.g. the new Jabba) and the result was a source of the 2004 DVDs and all of the HDTV broadcasts. Back when they were preparing the 2011 Blu-rays, they took the 2004 version, fixed a few things in it (like the digital encoding glitch or the colour of the lightsabers in some of the scenes) and the result was used for all of the post-2011 releases. So what we got is basically a reencode of a reencode of a reencode of a 1995 1080p scan.

Disney is in process of scanning everything in the Lucasfilm archives

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pittrek said:

Ryan said:

Wazzles said:

The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.

Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?

Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.

The original negatives were cleaned up optically back in 1995(ish). Then they scanned the negs in 1080p, replaced some of the original effects with CGI effects and printed the new scenes again to 35mm film. A combination of the original negatives and the new scenes was created and printed again as “special edition negatives”. These special edition negatives were later scanned again in 1080p and digitally color “corrected”, the color “corrected” scans were then shipped to the external company whose name I can’t remember right now, who cleaned it up (mainly degrained it). Lucasfilm then did more changes to the cleaned up scans (e.g. the new Jabba) and the result was a source of the 2004 DVDs and all of the HDTV broadcasts. Back when they were preparing the 2011 Blu-rays, they took the 2004 version, fixed a few things in it (like the digital encoding glitch or the colour of the lightsabers in some of the scenes) and the result was used for all of the post-2011 releases. So what we got is basically a reencode of a reencode of a reencode of a 1995 1080p scan.

Disney is in process of scanning everything in the Lucasfilm archives

That is a lot of rescanning and rescanning the scan.

I really hope they do a 4K scan of the original negative or something as close to that as possible and release that on Blu-Ray. I didn’t know that there were that many processes involved inbetween the original negative and what we see on the Blu-Ray.

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LukeShoots1st said:

hi im new here and im hoping someone can point me in the direction of the cover art work for the despecialized editions, i hope this doesnt breach any rules,thanks in advance

Hi. There is a dvd cover art work and disc label part of the forum. Click discussions and scroll down to that section. There is a very nice sticky at the top of said page with a collection of peoples works.

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