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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion — Page 10
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The REAL Episode 3 Script:-
http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
a sample of...
EWAN MCGREGOR
Oh no, the hangar has shields up!
HAYDEN shoots something next to the shield and they
deactivate.
EWAN MCGREGOR
The thing that powers the shield is
on the outside of the ship?
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty stupid. It'd be
like a life support system being in
a box on someone's chest.
(apologies if posted before)
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Funny. Still, it's a scifi convention that every seemingly unbeatable machine has a weakspot.
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Originally posted by: oojason
The REAL Episode 3 Script:-
http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
The REAL Episode 3 Script:-
http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
Superb, absolutely superb. ^_^
Though it should have ended with
IAN MCDIARMID
So, now that the movie is over,
would you say that the prequel
trilogy was worth making?
By the way, you're being kept
alive by a life support system in
that box on your chest.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Klingon_Jedi - your ending is
- that'd have cool! A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
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War does not make one great.
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Originally posted by: oojason
Klingon_Jedi - your ending is - that'd have cool!
Klingon_Jedi - your ending is
- that'd have cool! Well, I figure 'bring the early joke full circle'. I'm surprised they didn't think of it.
Great stuff though.
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Originally posted by: Jedikev
Why?
Why?
probably cause it makes no sense? and makes the character look weaker than he already is. I know people say its cause of Mace Windu force crushing his trachea or something, but honestly I saw Clone Wars and didnt even pick up on that till someone said it (and still only vaguely remember the scene). So what do the people think that have never seen Clone Wars? I was expecting it to go somewhere, like some sort of weakness of his would be exposed/realized by it leading to his defeat...but nothing came of it.
-Darth Simon
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin
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some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Change "He could manipulate the midi-chlorians themselves to create life" (from memory, sorry if it's off) to "He could manipulate the Force to create life", taking some clip of Palpatine saying "Force" and using some careful editing to get it in there right.
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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
probably cause it makes no sense? and makes the character look weaker than he already is. I know people say its cause of Mace Windu force crushing his trachea or something, but honestly I saw Clone Wars and didnt even pick up on that till someone said it (and still only vaguely remember the scene). So what do the people think that have never seen Clone Wars? I was expecting it to go somewhere, like some sort of weakness of his would be exposed/realized by it leading to his defeat...but nothing came of it.
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Originally posted by: Jedikev
Why?
Why?
probably cause it makes no sense? and makes the character look weaker than he already is. I know people say its cause of Mace Windu force crushing his trachea or something, but honestly I saw Clone Wars and didnt even pick up on that till someone said it (and still only vaguely remember the scene). So what do the people think that have never seen Clone Wars? I was expecting it to go somewhere, like some sort of weakness of his would be exposed/realized by it leading to his defeat...but nothing came of it.
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In my opinion, if you saw Chapter 25, it would be kind of hard to miss, since Grievous was fine since Chapter 20, and as soon as Mace hits him he falls and starts coughing...
Whether or not you know the plot reason, I think it should be kept in. After all, if Grievous is a foreshadow of Vader, than he coughing should be kept in since it's a foreshadow of Vader's breathing.
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on the soundtrack, as we've brought up in another thread (I think ADigitalMan mentioned it), the end credits music closes with this kinda cool, very stately reprise of the music from the throne room in ANH.
i liked it well enough, but what I thought belonged there was some kind of super montage of all the great SW themes--something that takes us back through six films worth of unforgettable music.
it may be impossible to construct something with good flow and segues between themes without actually composing transitions and enlisting a symphony to record the new piece, but maybe audio editors could come up with some kind of "Star Wars megamix" that touches on the great themes, and sees the saga out in style, instead of just repeating a piece of music that is cool enough but has little meaning in the context of the saga, other than being the force theme, which is important i guess, but the throne room really isn't?
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Drop Phantom Menace entirely.
It's pointless, has painfully bad ideas like Vader as a precocious tyke, the grand romance starting out as a weird thing between a near-toddler and a teenager (who are somehow the same age in the next film), and and of course, JarJar. The only good things in the film are dead-ends, like Qui-Gon and Maul, who end up not meaning much to the overall story.My thought was to merge AotC and Sith into one film, since IMO each has good scenes, but require editing with a hacksaw to make them watchable. Perhaps it would just be better to have Sith alone, at about 90 minutes, since I can easily see how people would find Sith alone much more satisfying than watching the entire PT. Neither AotC or TPM contain anything vital to the understanding of Sith, and instead create plotholes and redherrings that distract from (what should have been) the focus.
In toying with the idea, I cut Grievous entirely. He's a weak character created solely to sell toys. The early sequence on the ship works better w/o him (it places the emphasis on Dooku and Palpatine, where it should be, IMO). The difficulty it creates is that ObiWan disappears for the middle of the film if his (fairly dull) pursuit of Grievous is cut. I have some ideas to remedy that, which I may explore if I decide to revisit this idea. Currently, 3 weak prequels have sapped my interest in Star Wars for now. :/
I will say though, that a great deal of the problems in Sith can be easily fixed by simply cutting the fat: the bad lines, the pointless exposition, and the scenes that actually hurt the movie by existing ("she's lost the will to live - beep boop beep"). If Lucas had had a bit more patience in the editing room, he might have turned out a film that would have satisfied us all...
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Yeah, TPM has nothing that is vital to the story, except how one man could convince the entire galaxy to make him supreme ruler.
Yeah, TPM has nothing that is vital to the story, except how one man could convince the entire galaxy to make him supreme ruler.
I would say that Palpatine's becoming Chancellor is fairly expendable. If I was making an edit along the lines of Farsight's, I would probably leave something of that scenario intact, but it's not nearly as vital as when he manipulates Jar-Jar to give him emergency powers. That's technically when he starts his path to becoming "surpreme ruler". By comparison, him simply becoming Chancellor is useless exposition that didn't need a movie to be explained.
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Also, RotS has exposition that covers everything fine for my tastes, with lines like "He's been in office far beyond his term", etc... The political angle was sketchy throughout the films, so IMO reducing them to being background events referenced and not shown, actually strengthens the films.
My goal would be to cut anything that made me cringe, unless the removal makes the story nonsensical. For instance, if I cut every bad line from Padme and Anakin, they might not meet until he chokes her, which could be confusing...
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If there is any way possible to sync-up the audio with the video, the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel MUST be slowed down. Why they sped it up in the computer is beyond me. The footage in the "Return of Darth Vader" featurette was perfect. The rapidness of it all doesn't allow for the emotional ressonace of the ESB duel, for example. The Dooku duel is my favorite of the film, because while fast, it isn't flying by you at light speed and you can take it all in. Coupled with additional scenes of the duel on Mustafar, I believe this will improve the ultimate confrontation.
The shot of Yoda and Sidious rising up in the Senate Chamber had the potential to be as epic as the great pan-up in the Theed Reactor Room to the lightsaber duel. However, the shot was rushed and cuts to a close up before the phrase of the music ends. If this shot is slowed just the littlest bit, it will be infinitely more effective.
Yoda lines that must be cut:
"Not if anything to say about it, I have."
"...and not short enough it was."
(Good thing I revisted this thread today; it was two new topics away from oblivion.)
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2. I agree 100% about the speed of the lightsaber duels. They should never have sped it up on the computer, especially taking the original SW fight between them into account. They definitely should be slowed down.
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This slowing down of the Obi-Wan/Anakin fight, would it even be possible? I know we have more then enough music to work with (in fact, better matching up of the music, BotH and DotF, to the action would be welcome), but my main concern is with sound effects.