NJVC Custom Blu-ray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions now available on Mega — Page 5

HerekittykittyX said:

towne32 said:

HerekittykittyX said:

solkap said:

If you are talking about playing the blu-rays on Xbox one, you can’t. According to towne32 X-box Ones are specifically designed to not be able to play burrned media.

I have no idea what their capability for playing ISO files is. Perhaps Towne32 or another member does?

Update after lots of hours of research Xbox one do allow burned blu-rays https://www.vg247.com/2016/11/04/blu-ray-bd-r-and-bd-re-discs-now-work-on-both-xbox-one-and-xbox-one-s/

Thanks. Guess that happened quite a while back now.

Also, I made the mistake of looking at the comment section.

boxmonkey99 said:

Does anyone know how to get their BD-50s to play on PS4s? Whenever I put my disc in the PS4, it says Unrecognized Disc. Do you guys think it is because the videos are in .m2ts file formats?

If it’s a disc that works in another blu-ray player, it probably means your PS4 has a pickier laser than the other player. I’ve only used Verbatim discs and never had an issue. But lesser quality ones might have problems. My PS4 reads discs burned using the BD50 iso files.

m2ts files are part of the blu-ray video format.

Do you know if the Xbox one can read ISO files burned onto a Blu-ray Disc

Well, as you’ve posted, Xbox One can apparently read burned discs. News to me, but I’m glad they’ve changed their ways!

But I’d just like to clarify what you’re trying to say. They way you’ve worded it sounds like you mean that there is an ISO file sitting on the disc. As in, you would put the disc in your drive and see a file named E:\Thing.iso on the disc if you browsed it.

I assume Zerome thinks you meant properly burning an ISO image to disc and not what I described above. Though maybe I’m wrong and the Xbox can do that, but I find it very unlikely.

There’s really no reason to burn a disc like that. I’ve got HDDs with .iso files that I use media players like Kodi to play back. But it’s a specialized function. If you’re going to burn it to the disc, you want to burn the image properly so that it reflects the contents of the image file. Otherwise you need to put the disc in your computer, mount the image on the disc, and play it. A waste of a disc, really.

Sorry if none of this is what you meant. It’s a common problem both in that people new to this burn things the wrong way, and it’s easy to describe the wrong way.

towne32 said:

HerekittykittyX said:

towne32 said:

HerekittykittyX said:

solkap said:

If you are talking about playing the blu-rays on Xbox one, you can’t. According to towne32 X-box Ones are specifically designed to not be able to play burrned media.

I have no idea what their capability for playing ISO files is. Perhaps Towne32 or another member does?

Update after lots of hours of research Xbox one do allow burned blu-rays https://www.vg247.com/2016/11/04/blu-ray-bd-r-and-bd-re-discs-now-work-on-both-xbox-one-and-xbox-one-s/

Thanks. Guess that happened quite a while back now.

Also, I made the mistake of looking at the comment section.

boxmonkey99 said:

Does anyone know how to get their BD-50s to play on PS4s? Whenever I put my disc in the PS4, it says Unrecognized Disc. Do you guys think it is because the videos are in .m2ts file formats?

If it’s a disc that works in another blu-ray player, it probably means your PS4 has a pickier laser than the other player. I’ve only used Verbatim discs and never had an issue. But lesser quality ones might have problems. My PS4 reads discs burned using the BD50 iso files.

m2ts files are part of the blu-ray video format.

Do you know if the Xbox one can read ISO files burned onto a Blu-ray Disc

Well, as you’ve posted, Xbox One can apparently read burned discs. News to me, but I’m glad they’ve changed their ways!

But I’d just like to clarify what you’re trying to say. They way you’ve worded it sounds like you mean that there is an ISO file sitting on the disc. As in, you would put the disc in your drive and see a file named E:\Thing.iso on the disc if you browsed it.

I assume Zerome thinks you meant properly burning an ISO image to disc and not what I described above. Though maybe I’m wrong and the Xbox can do that, but I find it very unlikely.

There’s really no reason to burn a disc like that. I’ve got HDDs with .iso files that I use media players like Kodi to play back. But it’s a specialized function. If you’re going to burn it to the disc, you want to burn the iimage properly so that it reflects the contents of the image file. Otherwise you need to put the disc in your computer, mount the image on the disc, and play it. A waste of a disc, really.

Sorry if none of this is what you meant. It’s a common problem both in that people new to this burn things the wrong way, and it’s easy to describe the wrong way.

I got pre-burned DEEDS before I learned the rules.

chyron8472 said:

In other words, there are files inside of the .iso. It’s sort of similar to a .zip file. And when you burn the .iso to the disc, you don’t want to actually burn the .iso file itself so that there is a single .iso file on the disc; but you instead want the burning software to extract the .iso while burning it. You want the burned disc, were you to insert it into your disc drive, to have files on it the same as if you were to, say, browse inside the .iso with WinZip.

And in different terms again 😛 , you simply want to burn an “image” disc, not a “data storage” disc. If you open My Computer, right click the bluray drive and select open / explore and find a single file inside ending in .iso then you’ve burnt a data storage disc 😉 (as it’s only written the file instead of the disc image within the file)

.Val

BD25 versions already exist.

Captain_Danielsan said:

Huh. Ok have not seen those myself are they readily available?

sadly not right now. I think it was just an oversight (user didn’t have the rar’s available to upload) and of course probably limited space to store on a free account? i don’t know all the reasons, but yes they exist, and maybe someone can find a way to make them available like the 50gb ones.

I appreciate you wanting to help others, but as ChainsawAsh said, 25 GB (and original quality) discs already exist. and this community tends to frown on downscales / recodes.

Captain_Danielsan said:

Huh. Ok have not seen those myself are they readily available?

PMed.

dahmage said:

Captain_Danielsan said:

Huh. Ok have not seen those myself are they readily available?

sadly not right now. I think it was just an oversight (user didn’t have the rar’s available to upload) and of course probably limited space to store on a free account?

Not an oversight - I only downloaded the ones I intended to use myself. So later on, when I offered to help, that’s all I had available to upload.

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Captain_Danielsan said:

Huh. Ok have not seen those myself are they readily available?

sadly not right now. I think it was just an oversight (user didn’t have the rar’s available to upload) and of course probably limited space to store on a free account?

Not an oversight - I only downloaded the ones I intended to use myself. So later on, when I offered to help, that’s all I had available to upload.

Not your oversight. But it doesn’t matter I wasn’t trying to provide a written history.

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Captain_Danielsan said:

Huh. Ok have not seen those myself are they readily available?

sadly not right now. I think it was just an oversight (user didn’t have the rar’s available to upload) and of course probably limited space to store on a free account?

Not an oversight - I only downloaded the ones I intended to use myself. So later on, when I offered to help, that’s all I had available to upload.

Not your oversight. But it doesn’t matter I wasn’t trying to provide a written history.

First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di’s clothes. Then Harmy made Despecialized. Then njvc made a Blu-ray set of it. Then a bunch of other stuff happened. Then dahmaged happened.

If I were those guys I wouldn’t want someone random person re-encoding in order to shrink it down.

TV’s Frink said:

If I were those guys I wouldn’t want someone random person re-encoding in order to shrink it down.

I used Harmy’s x264 settings to get 2.7 just right. And njvc went through some some hassle to include it without re encoding. so just telling BDRB to build it smaller will lead to quality loss, whether it was visible at a glance or not.

The point of the 25gb versions was more discs but same quality. compressing everything, including a film where quality matters, and some YouTube rips where, not so much, may not be the best approach.

Here’s the problem though - random member tinkers, does a poor job, and uploads it. It starts going around the internets and suddenly there’s a subpar product out there that people are downloading with Harmy’s (and maybe njvc’s) name(s) on it.

As the “creator” of content, I wouldn’t want someone doing that.

Also, Blu-ray players are insanely cheap now. Anyone who doesn’t have interest in getting one doesn’t get much sympathy from me anymore.

Captain_Danielsan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Here’s the problem though - random member tinkers, does a poor job, and uploads it. It starts going around the internets and suddenly there’s a subpar product out there that people are downloading with Harmy’s (and maybe njvc’s) name(s) on it.

As the “creator” of content, I wouldn’t want someone doing that.

Also, Blu-ray players are insanely cheap now. Anyone who doesn’t have interest in getting one doesn’t get much sympathy from me anymore.

I get where you are coming from. But rest assured I have no intention of just doing this and then uploading without Harmy and NJVC having the final say. I will first pm them both and see if they are ok with it. If that step is successful then I’ll send the both of them a draft to view themselves and if they arent happy with the final product then thats where it will end. No sub par product floating around the inter webs.

It’s just too much content for a single layer disc, I think. This is the kind of thing that would get endless criticism from us and others if a company were to do it and release it.

It’s true that there would be more wiggle room for 720p material. However, part of what makes despecialized so large is the enormous number of audio tracks (some of them full DTS-HD MA audio) rather than having oversized 720p x264. One option would be to cut some of the dubs. There are a lot that don’t even show up in the menu due to technical limitations there. That will only save you so much, though, as they’re ac3.

As I said before, though, it doesn’t necessarily make sense to just compress everything down when you’ve got a feature film and very different content in all of the extras. BDRB does have options to selectively compress the main feature and bonus material in different ways. So that might be worth looking into. But really, I think the issue is best solved by either:

1. Spreading the material out across two BD25s as has already been done.

2. Not using the Blu-ray medium for something like this if its limitations and your desire to use smaller than ideal discs are in conflict. The whole point of it was sort of to have a near professional quality thing (which created its own slew of problems, obviously).

Good of you to ask njvc and Harmy. I’m chiming in as someone who rendered one of the main features you’re talking about compressing, but all credit and the final word is of course up to those guys.

As far as DVD goes, that’s a different ballpark but it seems fair enough. Do whatever is appropriate for the normal run length of a DVD, so that it’s still presented well for those that like SD content. I’m not familiar with mastering in this format, but I would assume that would be 2+ discs. And this brings up Frink’s point that quality control matters. Traditionally, we’ve had Chewtobacca making the ‘official’ DVD encodings because he knows what he is doing. Other people have thrown the mkv into a some kind of ‘insta-DVD’ program and uploaded it to the spleen, resulting in much complaining because of people not knowing what they’re doing. tldr: just do it right, I guess.

solkap said:

Yeah, everything everyone is saying makes sense, plus the fact that the stand alone film is available officially From Harmy in DVD5 format.

I guess I just wish that there had been OOT DVD’s besides GOUT.

Way back in the 90’s, pre-special edition, the “Face” VHS copies were pretty good quality for their time. Now, thanks to Harmy & NJVC, the movies can be well represented on blu-ray as well.

But DVDs never really got their fair shake at having a fully feature loaded release of the OOT. And that makes me kinda sad. Perhaps it’s just the nostalgia in me.

You’re not alone in being semi disappointed in the out not getting a decent dvd transfer.

solkap said:

This may sound like heresy to some, but I’d be interested in seeing if there could be a DVD-DL version of the NJVC sets. I have the blu-rays (obviously) but I think some people might be surprised just how many individuals don’t own blu-ray players and have no interest in buying them.

NJVC and Harmy may feel that this would compromise the quality of the sets too much. There would certainly be quality loss, so perhaps its not the best idea.

But on the other hand, I see no harm in a member trying their hand at tinkering. If the end product doesn’t turn out well, nobody has to download it.

I am making my own menus the files will be around 25gb if anyone is interested and this will be easier to download I guarantee That

Is there any way to post the menu files/disc authoring content so we can recreate these on our own? I personally have the despecialized mkv files, but don’t have access to myspleen or other trackers. I’d like to build some 25gb bluray discs of each, but it still seems the easiest way with quality authoring would be to download one of these (only 50gb versions available in some cases). Is there any way someone could share a decent BD authoring setup minus the huge mkv?