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Problems that came up in the politics thread on 10/26. — Page 2

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This is why i asked you to clearly state what you want to hash out here, because what you might think is the problem isn’t what everyone else might think is the problem. in fact we probably all have different opinions on the matter.

The only thing i remember is that you went nuts with the sighs, but i can’t imagine you want to talk about that. (and yes, thank you for no more sighs).

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I’m not sure the subject matter is important. It’s simply a personality conflict.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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dahmage said:

This is why i asked you to clearly state what you want to hash out here, because what you might think is the problem isn’t what everyone else might think is the problem. in fact we probably all have different opinions on the matter.

The only thing i remember is that you went nuts with the sighs, but i can’t imagine you want to talk about that. (and yes, thank you for no more sighs).

I created this thread to continue the discussion began in the politics thread yesterday. Anyone confused by what the problems are, can go back and read the last few pages of the politics thread and the fight that broke out there.

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Warbler said:

dahmage said:

This is why i asked you to clearly state what you want to hash out here, because what you might think is the problem isn’t what everyone else might think is the problem. in fact we probably all have different opinions on the matter.

The only thing i remember is that you went nuts with the sighs, but i can’t imagine you want to talk about that. (and yes, thank you for no more sighs).

I created this thread to continue the discussion began in the politics thread yesterday. Anyone confused by what the problems are, can go back and read the last few pages of the politics thread and the fight that broke out there.

so i guess this thread really is pointless then.

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Look, there’s no doubt about it, TV’s Frink is one of my favorite posters here. He’s funny and witty and has a good heart.

There’s also no doubt about it that TV’s Frink can be a sarcastic, condescending jerk.

I say both of these comments as a friend. Were you, TV’s Frink, the one making all these sighs, I would probably get irritated at your juvenile behavior. Instead, who I see making these sighs, asking questions that could easily be googled, and thinking very concretely about concepts is Warbler.

Again, I say this as a friend, but Warbler struggles with abstract thinking and creates circular arguments. I can’t help but feel like there is something there that requires an extra level of patience. So I grant him extra patience and don’t engage in conversation the same way I would engage with you, Frink. I expect different understanding and don’t use sarcastic humor as much. I explain things more literally and end things when I feel it is unproductive.

There is a lot of latitude granted to you because of the joys you bring to this forum. Don’t condemn his behavior when your own record isn’t perfect. You both have your quirks and your great qualities. I appreciate you both for who you are, but I also expect different things from you because of who you are.

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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

This is why i asked you to clearly state what you want to hash out here, because what you might think is the problem isn’t what everyone else might think is the problem. in fact we probably all have different opinions on the matter.

The only thing i remember is that you went nuts with the sighs, but i can’t imagine you want to talk about that. (and yes, thank you for no more sighs).

I created this thread to continue the discussion began in the politics thread yesterday. Anyone confused by what the problems are, can go back and read the last few pages of the politics thread and the fight that broke out there.

so i guess this thread really is pointless then.

You are the one that advised me to “take it to the appropriate thread”. Now you are complaining and calling it pointless that I did that???

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Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

This is why i asked you to clearly state what you want to hash out here, because what you might think is the problem isn’t what everyone else might think is the problem. in fact we probably all have different opinions on the matter.

The only thing i remember is that you went nuts with the sighs, but i can’t imagine you want to talk about that. (and yes, thank you for no more sighs).

I created this thread to continue the discussion began in the politics thread yesterday. Anyone confused by what the problems are, can go back and read the last few pages of the politics thread and the fight that broke out there.

so i guess this thread really is pointless then.

You are the one that advised me to “take it to the appropriate thread”. Now you are complaining and calling it pointless that I did that???

i just suggested you take it to the appropriate thread, and linked to a bunch of pointless threads as a sarcastic joke that there is no appropriate thread, but that the politics thread certainly didn’t need more of that posting. You seemed to mostly realize that already as you said in here earlier:

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I created this thread on advise.

Creating this thread was not the advice you were given.

Technically you are correct. The advice was to take the conversation the appropriate thread. I did not see an appropriate thread, so I created one.

I sense that i am ticking you off, and i don’t mean to. but i honestly don’t know what you want to have discussed in this thread, and i am not going to go re-read a bunch of pages just to try to understand what your precise “problem that came up in the politics thread” is. You don’t want to do that [Clarify the purpose that is]. I have no idea if this is really just a thread for you to argue with Frink like some people are suggesting, or if there is something you want to discuss with a larger audience. I am just trying to give you a chance to clearly state what your problem is that you want to discuss, you didn’t want to, so i don’t get the point then.

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Instead of arguing and baiting each other about whether or not this thread is pointless, can we talk about the actual discussion, or rather the underlying cause of confrontation? Ender and I have both tried this. Neither post has been acknowledged yet.

I don’t see the point in arguing about whether we should argue about it here or there, or in a box or with a fox, or in a boat or with a goat.

Warbler created this thread. He wants to talk about it. But he doesn’t want to quote the whole of the relevant conversation in the Politics thread, and if he were to summarize it it would be with his spin. So he left it to us to find the source instead. Whether that’s the appropriate action or not is not the issue. It’s what he did. Stop derailing the thread about it. If you don’t want to read the source, then don’t. But don’t bait the OP over it.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Well said d_e & chyron, and kudos to dahmage for engaging with Warbler about the topic at hand.

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Warbler is a very persistent guy. I think I am too, but not to the level that he is. He’s also a very literal guy. Frink, and to a certain extent, dahmage, are very sarcastic and satirical people. These are two very different personalities, and therefore, they can clash at times. I’m not sure how I fit into this whole spectrum — some days I feel more like a Warbler; somedays, a Frink.

Warbler can also have a tendency to over-do things at times. It can feel like, at certain times, a sort of obsessive–compulsive tendency. Warbler also, very often, doesn’t get the joke well. This can lead him to get frustrated at times when he isn’t getting the responses he expects.

All of this conspired to create a perfect storm of sorts. Warbler may have well-been completely unaware of just how many *sigh*s he was doing, but alas, other people noticed. Frink may have been in an especially irritable mood, and then the conflict started.

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darth_ender said:

Look, there’s no doubt about it, TV’s Frink is one of my favorite posters here. He’s funny and witty and has a good heart.

There’s also no doubt about it that TV’s Frink can be a sarcastic, condescending jerk.

I say both of these comments as a friend. Were you, TV’s Frink, the one making all these sighs, I would probably get irritated at your juvenile behavior. Instead, who I see making these sighs, asking questions that could easily be googled, and thinking very concretely about concepts is Warbler.

Again, I say this as a friend, but Warbler struggles with abstract thinking and creates circular arguments. I can’t help but feel like there is something there that requires an extra level of patience. So I grant him extra patience and don’t engage in conversation the same way I would engage with you, Frink. I expect different understanding and don’t use sarcastic humor as much. I explain things more literally and end things when I feel it is unproductive.

There is a lot of latitude granted to you because of the joys you bring to this forum. Don’t condemn his behavior when your own record isn’t perfect. You both have your quirks and your great qualities. I appreciate you both for who you are, but I also expect different things from you because of who you are.

Wise, this one is.

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Warbler you take this place way too seriously. People say you sighed too much. So just do it a bit less and move on maybe? No need to make a new thread analyzing and discussing it as a committee.

I’ll admit, I mainly just wanted to use the phrase “discuss it as a committee. “

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I am not a committee.

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I think we should discuss this as a chyron8472.

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I think posters should stay on topic a little more - and maybe give some consideration to what the OP at least tried to engage with, in creating this thread.

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Well then, to be on-topic, I honestly lost track of what the whole problem was beyond the fact that Warb went into sigh overdrive and I went into sighscraper overdrive. Jason asked us both to stop and we both did. I’m not exactly sure what other problems came up in the politics thread.

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Just to speak for my threads, I typically don’t care if people go off-topic. I wouldn’t put such a clause into my “thread rules” or anything. If anything is to be found inappropriate, I let the moderation decide.