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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED ** — Page 42

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benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

Tantive3+1 said:

When Vader’s shuttle is landing in the second DS there is a scaffolding struture on the left side of it, but then in the next close up shot of the shuttle it’s no longer there.

When R2 plays Luke’s holographic message to Jabba, Luke’s lightsaber is shown clipped to the right side of his body. Then before the message ends a brief shot of Luke’s hologram is visible showing his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body indicating that in all previous shots of Luke before the one with the message ending, Luke’s holographic image was flipped.


NOTE: In the film Luke keeps his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body (this is also true in TESB).

During R2’s holographic message of Luke to Jabba, in the shot showing Jabba and Bib Fortuna then panning down to Salacious Crumb the smoke coming from Jabba’s pipe is going inward and the bubbles in the bong are flowing downward indicating that this shot was played in reverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JFPHNLjCvI&t=1m0s

In the scene when “Leia” pulls out the thermal detonator in front of Jabba, the shots showing Boba Fett during this are flipped due to his helmets antenna being on the left side.


On Jabba’s sail barge when Luke is shot on his mechanical hand by a blaster the injury from the shot is already visible on his hand before he’s even shot and when he is shot he’s actually shot on the sleeve.



good catch.i never see this.
more please… 😃

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The point is you don’t need to quote a mile-long post just to say one thing about it.

i could make it longer…😉

Just to be a werdio so can I.

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benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

Tantive3+1 said:

When Vader’s shuttle is landing in the second DS there is a scaffolding struture on the left side of it, but then in the next close up shot of the shuttle it’s no longer there.

When R2 plays Luke’s holographic message to Jabba, Luke’s lightsaber is shown clipped to the right side of his body. Then before the message ends a brief shot of Luke’s hologram is visible showing his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body indicating that in all previous shots of Luke before the one with the message ending, Luke’s holographic image was flipped.


NOTE: In the film Luke keeps his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body (this is also true in TESB).

During R2’s holographic message of Luke to Jabba, in the shot showing Jabba and Bib Fortuna then panning down to Salacious Crumb the smoke coming from Jabba’s pipe is going inward and the bubbles in the bong are flowing downward indicating that this shot was played in reverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JFPHNLjCvI&t=1m0s

In the scene when “Leia” pulls out the thermal detonator in front of Jabba, the shots showing Boba Fett during this are flipped due to his helmets antenna being on the left side.


On Jabba’s sail barge when Luke is shot on his mechanical hand by a blaster the injury from the shot is already visible on his hand before he’s even shot and when he is shot he’s actually shot on the sleeve.



good catch.i never see this.
more please… 😃

antenna
window
window
window
balcony
window
window
window
balcony
window
window
window
retail shops
retail shops
parking
plaza
BUNNY

uuuuuuuhhhh…
you got good eyes.
cheers

The point is you don’t need to quote a mile-long post just to say one thing about it.

i could make it longer…😉

Mate, I suggest you don’t 😃

I’d ask you please go back and remove the block of pics you quoted too - there is really no need to quote all those pics just to post one generic sentence - on the same page.

Thanks.

 

LordZerome1080 said:

benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

TV’s Frink said:

benduwan said:

Tantive3+1 said:

When Vader’s shuttle is landing in the second DS there is a scaffolding struture on the left side of it, but then in the next close up shot of the shuttle it’s no longer there.

When R2 plays Luke’s holographic message to Jabba, Luke’s lightsaber is shown clipped to the right side of his body. Then before the message ends a brief shot of Luke’s hologram is visible showing his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body indicating that in all previous shots of Luke before the one with the message ending, Luke’s holographic image was flipped.


NOTE: In the film Luke keeps his lightsaber clipped to the left side of his body (this is also true in TESB).

During R2’s holographic message of Luke to Jabba, in the shot showing Jabba and Bib Fortuna then panning down to Salacious Crumb the smoke coming from Jabba’s pipe is going inward and the bubbles in the bong are flowing downward indicating that this shot was played in reverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JFPHNLjCvI&t=1m0s

In the scene when “Leia” pulls out the thermal detonator in front of Jabba, the shots showing Boba Fett during this are flipped due to his helmets antenna being on the left side.


On Jabba’s sail barge when Luke is shot on his mechanical hand by a blaster the injury from the shot is already visible on his hand before he’s even shot and when he is shot he’s actually shot on the sleeve.



good catch.i never see this.
more please… 😃

antenna
window
window
window
balcony
window
window
window
balcony
window
window
window
retail shops
retail shops
parking
plaza
BUNNY

uuuuuuuhhhh…
you got good eyes.
cheers

The point is you don’t need to quote a mile-long post just to say one thing about it.

i could make it longer…😉

Just to be a werdio so can I.

A werdio indeed 😉

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LordZerome1080 said:

I would not be opposed to seeing the deleted scenes restored and put into the missing places in the film.

For all the great counterpoints to why they should remain cut, I have to agree.

Ironically, I DO wish to see at least one shot of the Falcon turret gun operators added in during the battle. One could argue they are the least necessary of the deleted scenes, but I feel it lets us see the inside of the turrets again, and shows another rebel playing his part in the fight, and reminds us that the Falcon takes a team effort to be useful in a fight.

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I’m more exited about this edit than the previous installments, because RotJ contains many of my favorite moments of the saga and the weak parts deserve to be elevated to make this movie even better!

As I’m not as eagle eyed as some of you or Ady, I’m sure he already knows about most of the issues I bring up but just in case…

This shot when the sail barge explodes looks way too modely, it needs new flames that don’t give the small scale away and some bodies laying around on the deck. Skiff could use some touching up too:

Another thing I noticed in a ”hero shot” of the Falcon:

And there are a number of issues in the lightsaber fight besides the terrible saber colors and Luke’s face being out of focus in the end in couple of shots:

I’m pretty sure the blade is supposed to be above the railing here:

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Lightsaber blades cast shadows, this was discussed ad nauseam during the original Revisited project.

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oh_riginal said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would not be opposed to seeing the deleted scenes restored and put into the missing places in the film.

For all the great counterpoints to why they should remain cut, I have to agree.

Ironically, I DO wish to see at least one shot of the Falcon turret gun operators added in during the battle. One could argue they are the least necessary of the deleted scenes, but I feel it lets us see the inside of the turrets again, and shows another rebel playing his part in the fight, and reminds us that the Falcon takes a team effort to be useful in a fight.

Now that’s something I would like to see a bit of, even if it’s just exterior shots of the turrets firing. I’d especially like to see them doing their bit when attacking the main reactor.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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The reactor was destroyed with torpedoes, Lando did that-that’s why he gets credit for destroying the second Death Star.

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The reactor was destroyed with torpedoes, Lando did that-that’s why he gets credit for destroying the second Death Star.

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Dazman said:

I’m more exited about this edit than the previous installments, because RotJ contains many of my favorite moments of the saga and the weak parts deserve to be elevated to make this movie even better!

As I’m not as eagle eyed as some of you or Ady, I’m sure he already knows about most of the issues I bring up but just in case…

I’m pretty sure the blade is supposed to be above the railing here:

Luke’s lightsaber being beneath rather than above the railing has ALWAYS DRIVEN ME CRAZY!

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Captain Antilles said:
Luke’s lightsaber being beneath rather than above the railing has ALWAYS DRIVEN ME CRAZY!

Hey Cap, you might want to edit the quote in your post to only include the image you are referring to. It’s rather irritating to scroll through a post of that length (especially on the same page) just to find a single sentence response at the end.

As you’ll see in the below quote, mods have already asked another member to keep this in mind and clean up their previous post doing the same thing 😉

oojason said:

I’d ask you please go back and remove the block of pics you quoted too - there is really no need to quote all those pics just to post one generic sentence - on the same page.

Thanks.

.Val

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DuracellEnergizer said:

And that’s your science lesson for the day.

Yeah, no. Lightsaber is definitely brighter than Palps’s mood lighting. I don’t think it makes sense to ever see a lightsaber shadow.

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Valheru_84 said:

Captain Antilles said:
Luke’s lightsaber being beneath rather than above the railing has ALWAYS DRIVEN ME CRAZY!

Hey Cap, you might want to edit the quote in your post to only include the image you are referring to. It’s rather irritating to scroll through a post of that length (especially on the same page) just to find a single sentence response at the end.

As you’ll see in the below quote, mods have already asked another member to keep this in mind and clean up their previous post doing the same thing 😉

noooooo…thats not true…

😉 😃

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DominicCobb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And that’s your science lesson for the day.

Yeah, no. Lightsaber is definitely brighter than Palps’s mood lighting. I don’t think it makes sense to ever see a lightsaber shadow.

True. Still, if one wants an in-universe explanation, that’s the best one available.

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Please don’t quote a long post of pictures unless you have something to comment on about each individual picture.

Quoting a long post of pics and then putting a short generic sentence at the end really isn’t on - nor is quoting a long post of pics and then only commenting on one picture.

Thank you.

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DominicCobb said:

Yeah, no. Lightsaber is definitely brighter than Palps’s mood lighting. I don’t think it makes sense to ever see a lightsaber shadow.

^ This. Also realistic physics aside you know the shadows are from prop blades so they take you out of the moment, IMO. Anyway I don’t mean to start a new convo about it more than this, I just hope Ady considers removing them because they are more distracting in Jedi that in other two (haven’t spotted them in them)

This might be redundant being so obvious but I forgot this flat saber shot:

Guess they had difficulty painting the blade on the prop as the scene is so dark.

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I’ve suggested before that the barge should snap in the fashion of the Titanic but adding some animated falling figures would sell the explosion better. The barge seem utterly empty by the time the thing blows which doesn’t seem possible even if some of the court made it onto the sand.

For the throne room I’m not sure if some Ridley Scott style directional lighting would be possible though those windows.

It’s already be suggested that the Endor moon be visible through the windows which would provide some reflected light. There is also the native star and with all that swordplay smashing up electrical equipment there may be a little bit of smoke in that room which could make for some interesting light effects if someone was prepared to spend the time animating them.

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Dazman said:

DominicCobb said:

Yeah, no. Lightsaber is definitely brighter than Palps’s mood lighting. I don’t think it makes sense to ever see a lightsaber shadow.

^ This. Also realistic physics aside you know the shadows are from prop blades so they take you out of the moment, IMO. Anyway I don’t mean to start a new convo about it more than this, I just hope Ady considers removing them because they are more distracting in Jedi that in other two (haven’t spotted them in them)

Ady can remove them or not, it’s up to him, I just don’t see how it can be rationalized. It’s one of those things like lightsaber glow (or window glass) that should always be a certain way, but could be something he doesn’t think is worth bother with.

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Throughout the OT Chewbacca always wears his bandolier belt from the left shoulder to the right hip but in this one scene on the skiff on their way to the sarlacc pit, Chewbacca has it worn in reverse from the right shoulder to the left hip until they arrive at the sarlacc pit and its back to its original position indicating that during this scene these shots were flipped.







NOTE: If the shots in the above scene were flipped then there is a possibility that the theatrical shot below might have been flipped also.

In the shot when Jabba pulls Leia toward him saying “Soon you will learn to appreciate me”, Jabba’s drink is on the other hand and Carrie Fisher’s birthmark which normally is on the right side of her back is shown on the left showing that this shot was flipped.

When Luke is on the plank he nods to Lando who’s standing to his right then when Jabba says “Put him in”, in the shot of the Weequay forcing him off the plank Lando is suddenly shown on the left side of the skiff. Then when Luke jumps in the air, reclaims his lightsaber, and fights the guards, Lando is shown on the right side of the skiff again showing that the shot of the Weequay forcing Luke off the plank was flipped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAnkFVaKnec&t=2m32s



When Boba Fett lands on the skiff and aims his blaster at Luke, the muzzle starts to explode one frame before Luke even strikes it with his lightsaber.




When Luke goes to jump from one skiff to another, you can see that his lightsaber is no longer glowing but is holding a stunt prop instead.

This one has always bugged me whenever I watched the film.
When Vader is lifting the Emperor right when he’s going to throw him into the shaft, you can clearly see that its a fake dummy being thrown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbG02LB7g0&t=1m54s

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Why the hell do they flip so many shots and apparently for no discernible reason?

Regarding the emperor dummy, can’t say I ever noticed this and probably won’t be able to forget it now damnit! Do you go frame by frame in these movies to notice such things or was it just readily obvious to you?

.Val

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Shots aren’t flipped by accident. Always a reason (usually screen direction - flow of action).

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DominicCobb said:

Shots aren’t flipped by accident. Always a reason (usually screen direction - flow of action).

That’s what I mean by “no discernible reason” 😉 What result does flipping the above shots achieve other than to create continuity issues?

.Val

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Those continuity issues are of the least concern when it comes to editing. I’ve never noticed them before and I still can’t see what they are (on my phone). Far more jarring would be something like the skiff pointing in one direction in one shot and another in another.

I would have to watch the scenes in question to get a better idea of it (and that is how a cut should be judged, not just by looking at stills), but at the end of the day no matter what you have to realize that if a professional editor flipped a shot there was a damn good reason for it, and an eagle eyed fan pointing out Carrie’s birthmark is in the wrong spot is not a good enough reason to flip it back.

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Most common reason a shot is flipped is to avoid breaking the 180 degree rule.

This is never the fault of the editor, as they have to work with the footage they have in order to make a scene work shot-to-shot. Breaking the 180 degree rule is far worse for flow of a scene than a reversed image, hence why they tend to pop up a lot in many movies. We only notice them more in Star Wars because we observe them repeatedly, much more than any other film.

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